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Title: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: jonald_fyookball on August 25, 2015, 12:35:40 AM
Source: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pools 1 week (around the time & date of posting)

Pools and the block size they support:


Pool
|
percentage of global hashrate
|
block size supported
|
# of blocks
|
DiscusFish / F2Pool|20.94%|Partial 8Mb support|218 in the last 7 days (2 were in support of 8Mb)|
Antpool|18.44%|Partial 8Mb support|192 in the last 7 days (53 were in support of 8Mb)|
Bitfury|13.45%|Regular Blocks only|140 in the last 7 days (0 were in support of 8Mb)|
BTCChina Pool|13.26%|Overwhelming 8Mb support|138 in the last 7 days (104 were in support of 8Mb)|
BW Pool|7.59%|Only 8Mb support|79 in the last 7 days (all were in support of 8Mb)|
Elingus|5.48%|Regular blocks only|57 in the last 7 days (all were regular blocks)|
KNCMiner|4.61%|Only 8Mb support|48 in the last 7 days (all were in support of 8Mb)|
21 Inc.|4.32%|Only 8Mb support|45 in the last 7 days (all were in support of 8Mb)|
Slush|3.94%|Partial BIP101 support|41 in the last 7 days (4 were in support of BIP101)|
Rest|7.95%|Regular blocks only|41 in the last 7 days (all were regular blocks)|


Well...what do you think?  Are we in good shape?


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: unholycactus on August 25, 2015, 12:38:20 AM
Source: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pools 1 week (around the time & date of posting)

Pools and the block size they support:


Pool
|
percentage of global hashrate
|
block size supported
|
# of blocks
|
DiscusFish / F2Pool|20.94%|Partial 8Mb support|218 in the last 7 days (2 were in support of 8Mb)|
Antpool|18.44%|Partial 8Mb support|192 in the last 7 days (53 were in support of 8Mb)|
Bitfury|13.45%|Regular Blocks only|140 in the last 7 days (0 were in support of 8Mb)|
BTCChina Pool|13.26%|Overwhelming 8Mb support|138 in the last 7 days (104 were in support of 8Mb)|
BW Pool|7.59%|Only 8Mb support|79 in the last 7 days (all were in support of 8Mb)|
Elingus|5.48%|Regular blocks only|57 in the last 7 days (all were regular blocks)|
KNCMiner|4.61%|Only 8Mb support|48 in the last 7 days (all were in support of 8Mb)|
21 Inc.|4.32%|Only 8Mb support|45 in the last 7 days (all were in support of 8Mb)|
Slush|3.94%|Partial BIP101 support|41 in the last 7 days (4 were in support of BIP101)|
Rest|7.95%|Regular blocks only|41 in the last 7 days (all were regular blocks)|


Well...what do you think?  Are we in good shape?

Elingus, is your keyboard something else than qwerty? I don't understand how you made that typo.


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: GermanGiant on August 25, 2015, 12:41:03 AM
Does 8mb or BIP 101 support means XT ?

If the question of the debate is whether block size needs to be increased ? Yes has already won.

But, if the question is whether we should go the XT way, we probably dont know the answer yet.


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: GODLIKE on August 25, 2015, 01:04:52 AM
How to switch to XT?


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: meono on August 25, 2015, 01:09:21 AM
How to switch to XT?

Download it from bitcoinxt.software.

Install and done, its that simple.


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: GODLIKE on August 25, 2015, 02:08:23 AM
How to switch to XT?

Download it from bitcoinxt.software.

Install and done, its that simple.


Thank you.
But there's a thing I can't understand: is it another coin, so I have to buy it, or is it working on the same blockchain of Bitcoin???


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: meono on August 25, 2015, 02:22:57 AM
How to switch to XT?

Download it from bitcoinxt.software.

Install and done, its that simple.


Thank you.
But there's a thing I can't understand: is it another coin, so I have to buy it, or is it working on the same blockchain of Bitcoin???

Its not another coin. Its an alt wallet client, forked from Bitcoin Core.

Yes it works on the same blockchain.

Best to read the page i linked you.


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: chek2fire on August 25, 2015, 12:19:24 PM
8mb support is something completly different from BitcoinXT support


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: turvarya on August 25, 2015, 12:27:48 PM
I don't really get it. This is far from over.
There is no implementation of "only 8 MB without further increase" as far as I know. There is one implementation and that is BIP 101, which has only 0.4 % of the hash rate.
Even if we combine all "none-standard"-blocks. It is still 43.3%


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: glub0x on August 25, 2015, 12:29:11 PM
Yep does 8mb support mean they support BIP101?
I doubt so ...


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: Carlton Banks on August 25, 2015, 12:33:58 PM
8 MB is bit too much room for all those transactions that no-one wants to send  ;)



Also, jonald's table is garbage apparently: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1158885.msg12235228#msg12235228


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: Lauda on August 25, 2015, 12:40:17 PM
I think that people intentionally spreading false information need to be punished, else there will never be an end to nonsense around here?


BIP 100 support:
DiscusFish / F2Pool  (https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pool/discusfish)
Kano CKPool (https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pool/kano)
BitClub Network (https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pool/bitclubnetwork)


BIP 100 has almost 25% support. I'm starting to think that if another 2-3 pools start showing support for BIP100 that we will be heading down that path.


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: chek2fire on August 25, 2015, 12:42:03 PM
with 6 blocks in 20 days now you can fork bitcoin core in 21.000.000 years... GZ Gavin for this epic Fail


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: glub0x on August 25, 2015, 01:19:28 PM
I think that people intentionally spreading false information need to be punished, else there will never be an end to nonsense around here?


BIP 100 support:
DiscusFish / F2Pool  (https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pool/discusfish)
Kano CKPool (https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pool/kano)
BitClub Network (https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pool/bitclubnetwork)


BIP 100 has almost 25% support. I'm starting to think that if another 2-3 pools start showing support for BIP100 that we will be heading down that path.
BIP 100 is clever in the way that it gives more power to the miner (via the voting system) and to be implemented it needs miner support.
This is quite a clever idea to get it out and certainly not the worst solution to me...


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: pawel7777 on August 25, 2015, 01:56:01 PM
How to switch to XT?

If you don't run full node you don't switch. You don't have to do anything really.


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: kelsey on August 25, 2015, 02:10:17 PM
8mb support is something completly different from BitcoinXT support

yes.


even so half the stuff said about the mining pools supporting any of the above is BS.


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: Delek on August 25, 2015, 02:17:07 PM
Bigger Blocks != XT, please stop believe that the unique way to scale Bitcoin is not using it (and use GavinCoin instead).


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: sgbett on August 25, 2015, 02:22:19 PM
Bigger Blocks != XT, please stop believe that the unique way to scale Bitcoin is not using it (and use GavinCoin instead).

He's right bigger blocks is entirely different...

https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/tree/only-bigblocks


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: ashour on August 25, 2015, 04:52:06 PM
It is a matter of time until BitFury switches to BIP100/8mb blocks support. Most big bitcoin names have publicly praised the block size increase, so it would't surprise me if BitFury joins them.


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: maokoto on August 25, 2015, 06:49:53 PM
It seems like a matter of (short) time that a bigger blocksize is widely adopted. Hopefully then consensus may be reached again.


Title: Re: If Bitfury goes, its all over. The debate has been won.
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on August 25, 2015, 07:19:33 PM
Change to 24 hour view on https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pools and see that BIP 100 is gaining votes fast.