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Title: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: Blawpaw on August 25, 2015, 07:49:57 PM
I believe that BTC is still the model T of digital currencies and as so I think that sooner or later a new crypto will emerge to take out Bitcoin as the main preferred digital currency.

So, What's your pick about what could be the next big crypto?


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: kazuki49 on August 25, 2015, 08:02:22 PM
Monero.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1157779.0


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: bitcart on August 25, 2015, 08:05:57 PM
Ethereum


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: fulgdenea on August 25, 2015, 08:07:53 PM
SONICCOIN SSD is best alternative of bitcoin same algo SHA-256 but some extra security features.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=755180.0


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: riceberry on August 25, 2015, 08:23:57 PM
NXT


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: flagel8 on August 25, 2015, 09:26:29 PM
You make one mistake with Bitcoin, and eventually you will, then everyone who wishes to will be able to see what you have, where you got it, how you spend it, and when. They'll (given enough motive) kidnap your loved ones, or perform $5 wrench decryption on your wallets. They'll be able to track your weakness for Banh-mi every Thursday evening at 4:37 p.m. They'll be able to tell that your coins passed through a hacked and stolen webwallet, and blacklist them into unspendability.

Bitcoin deserves a place in history, but for my funds, I want something private, fungible and untraceable, none of which describes Bitcoin. But it does describe Monero.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: whap on August 25, 2015, 09:52:16 PM
Just the fact that it's a 100% open source, transparent project from scratch with fair launch and an ongoing active development, where privacy is hardcoded into the protocol and where a blocksize debate will never be an issue, makes Monero a big candidate for being the next major step in crypto evolution.

But yeah, XMR shills/trolls are a behated species all over here, that's why it's a shitcoin right? ::)


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: Blawpaw on August 25, 2015, 10:58:23 PM
You make one mistake with Bitcoin, and eventually you will, then everyone who wishes to will be able to see what you have, where you got it, how you spend it, and when. They'll (given enough motive) kidnap your loved ones, or perform $5 wrench decryption on your wallets. They'll be able to track your weakness for Banh-mi every Thursday evening at 4:37 p.m. They'll be able to tell that your coins passed through a hacked and stolen webwallet, and blacklist them into unspendability.

Bitcoin deserves a place in history, but for my funds, I want something private, fungible and untraceable, none of which describes Bitcoin. But it does describe Monero.

I recognise that XMR has some potential because of its anonymizing features but let's face it we already got Dash (Darkcoin). besides, why Monero and not Bytecoin (BCN)?


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: SBOSS on August 25, 2015, 11:12:33 PM
Who cares about this forum?  Only alternates people have heard of, in the real world which matters, is Litecoin and Doge.  I'm thinking people would sooner go over to Litecoin than to a coin with a mascot of a big fat yellow dog..

Nobody has heard of Ripple.  Ripple tried to do "deals" with many banks and companies, like Wells Fargo and Western Union, and yet it felled through each time.  Ripple has been doing these pump and dump announcements for years.  Ripple being located in the US means it'll probably get the eGold treatment.  Ripple already had a huge fine from FinCen.


 
Nobody has heard of Ethereum.  The Ethereum media machine is already slowing down (ran out of money) and only thing they ever really did was publish articles on cryptonews sites read by dozens and hundreds.   When the initial launch hype wears off, Ethereum will be joining Bitshares, NXT and the other 2.0s in capitalization & volume.



Monero?  Shut the f*ck up!

Clearly the Bitcoin killer will not come from Bitcointalk and won't be listed on any cryptocurrency exchanges.  It will simply bypass this subculture.



Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: TPTB_need_war on August 25, 2015, 11:44:45 PM
Clearly the Bitcoin killer will not come from Bitcointalk and won't be listed on any cryptocurrency exchanges.  It will simply bypass this subculture.

Damn. How did you know my marketing plan. Kudos.

You are spot on. The Bitcointalk.org market is too small. And it is being eaten away by shitcoins, declining crypto market, and the conversion of Bitcoin into GovCoin (aka GavinCoin or Bitcoin XT) which destroys the network efforts of widescale permission-less commerce. Bitcoin is being folded into vulture capital top-down morass (http://blog.wibki.com/dark-side-app-store/).

P.S. the best alternative to BTC right now is the $us dollar and USA stocks. Seriously BTC is headed below $100 by Spring 2016. Then a new bull market will ensue in crypto. Get out of crypto for the time being.

Let's review what I wrote more than a year ago as AnonyMint:

Bitcoin adoption slowing; Coinbase + Bitpay is enough to make Bitcoin a fiat

I gave the explanation that money is power-law distributed and thus we should expect the greatest serious network effects on adoption at the beginning because the power investors come in the earliest. The log-logistic (cumulative distribution function) curve corresponds to the power-law distribution.

I had an epiphany in my dream last night that there is a simpler explanation which also corresponds to the power-law distribution of money as follows.

"Most people who learn about Bitcoin, don't adopt it".

Why? Because it doesn't fulfill a general need. The need it fulfills is very specific to a white male, hate central banking demographic. It doesn't have fast transactions, doesn't have consumer protection, the money is difficult to secure, it is technically challenging to use, etc..

A consumer adopted item such as a washing machine has logistic adoption curve because every person who hears about wants it. Thus maximum word-of-mouth is reached at 50% of adoption. Whereas, for Bitcoin maximum rate of effectiveness of word-of-mouth was when only the correct demographic was listening back before July 2011. Now as Bitcoin tries to speak to the masses, they mostly don't care.

Thus if you want to build a Bitcoin killer altcoin, you simply make sure it is something every person will want to do.

Put Coinbase and Bitpay together and you have both the consumer and the merchant, you don't need the block chain any more. Also the mining is already centralized. How much more obvious could it be?

And during this time our core development team and Foundation have been doing what to ameliorate this outcome? Meeting with the CIA and CFR.


And recently:

I am thinking the fundamental flaw in any consensus algorithm that relies on some asset, is that the economic game theory is such that the asset will concentrate towards a winner take all over time.

What if a system makes a winner to give away his "power" if he comes close to the point of no return?

That is a common argument that the society will bolt into a minority hash power (or minority stake) chain with the majority of users. However the problem with that in the context of all published designs I've seen, is that we all know well that the users tend to continue using (preoccupied, irrelevant to their priorities, etc) what they use and those tend to be controlled by the same vulture capitalists who will centralized the mining, e.g. Coinbase. Blockchain.com (see below), etc.. However you have identified conceptually what my design in effect technically accomplishes.

Do not trust any vulture capital endeavors. They are all beholden to the capitalist network that enslaves the world (https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354-500-revealed-the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world/). That is for programmers whose priorities are to get rich on some fat compensation with stock options and not on changing the world. You'll find nearly no programmers of my talent and capabilities who are willing to work with no guarantees and only $2000 monthly (self-funded for the past 2 decades up until this month) in survival goods expenses (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg12240858#msg12240858). Believe me, I've tried to find them and failed.

Maxwell's Blockstream (whether he realizes it or not) is probably just another Hegelian dialectic gambit by the powers-that-be, where there is a good and bad car salesman (at the same dealer), so the good one looks less worse than the bad one and fools you into a horrible deal.

Traitor! We must replace this shit company. Not with politics. With superior code.

The plutocrats are pushing for their NWO electronic (digital) currency. Yet another clue of where GavinCoin is headed.

http://blog.blockchain.com/2015/08/08/bitcoin-news-for-the-week-of-8315/

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Blockchain CEO Peter Smith traveled to SE Asia with British Prime Minister David Cameron and other fintech executives to speak with senior regulators, bank CEOs, and telecommunications executives about the future we are working towards as an industry. - See more at: http://blog.blockchain.com/#sthash.ggmqlh9f.dpuf

http://i0.wp.com/blog.blockchain.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/IMG_2751.jpg?resize=612%2C708


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: SBOSS on August 26, 2015, 12:36:35 AM
People say there  is no proof anyone wants a coin but is there any proof anyone wants smart contracts?  

People been posturing about smart contracts for a year now and have YET to provide one good use case example for it yet.

BTW Bitcoin only has around 5500 nodes, Ethereum around 300 and most alternates less than that.  Can 5500 servers around the world really hold data for all your hypothetical big multinational customers?



Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: kelsey on August 26, 2015, 12:51:51 AM

Clearly the Bitcoin killer will not come from Bitcointalk and won't be listed on any cryptocurrency exchanges.  It will simply bypass this subculture.



i concur.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: kelsey on August 26, 2015, 12:56:27 AM
this community (even the legit side of it), is obsessed with adding unneeded bells and whistles, finding solutions to non existent problems all under the label 'innovation'.


the bitcoin killer will be an extremely simplified p2p currency. trusting is understanding and trust is crucial to currencies success. along with simplification comes usability, also crucial for mass adoption.




Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: kingscrown on August 26, 2015, 01:00:16 AM
LTC for now.. and nothing can beat it ;)


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: jeffthebaker on August 26, 2015, 01:08:51 AM

Clearly the Bitcoin killer will not come from Bitcointalk and won't be listed on any cryptocurrency exchanges.  It will simply bypass this subculture.



i concur.


So what you are implying is that if/when a new digital currency overtakes Bitcoin, it will be one that thrives off of a different community altogether?

That's.... actually a plausible occurrance, and one I haven't even thought of before. I would definitely agree that the anarcho beliefs of the early adopters are a bit too extreme to be a good foundation for a universal currency, and I suppose if something was birthed in the perfect environment it could become vastly more popular (and therefore superior in value) to Bitcoin.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: TPTB_need_war on August 26, 2015, 01:09:25 AM
One day you will understand that without censorship resistance, all you've got is fiat 2.0.

No crypto-currency that exists today has censorship resistance.

So what you are implying is that if/when a new digital currency overtakes Bitcoin, it will be one that thrives off of a different community altogether?

Yes. And it will be the one that enables 1000 Silk Roads bloom. Not just for drugs but for every fucking thing the gubermint regulates and fucks up. Everything from social networking to porn.

Stop trying to think of crypto as taking over the brick&mortar world.

The markets I just enumerated are 100 times bigger than anything Bitcoin has even tackled yet.

This will all become more apparent as the gubermints regulate Bitcoin more and more and capture it in bed with vulture capital. And as the global economic collapse proceeds into Economic Totalitarianism, the gubermints will tax and expropriate everything that moves. And people will need an escape else the global economy will collapse into a Dark Age.

Spain fines you for taking a photo of police and posting it on social media. Chicago and France want to tax bandwidth on the internet. The dumbass youth cry for gubermint regulation with net neutrality lies. Etc, etc, etc....

The writing is on the wall, and I've been preparing the technological solution. I saw all this 2.5 years ago:

Bitcoin - The Digital Kill Switch (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160612.0)


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: LieTOme on August 26, 2015, 01:13:42 AM
doge coin always :D


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: kelsey on August 26, 2015, 01:14:45 AM
wow can't believe this thread (or atleast half of it) is turning into a meaningful discussion.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: jeffthebaker on August 26, 2015, 01:18:48 AM
One day you will understand that without censorship resistance, all you've got is fiat 2.0.

No crypto-currency that exists today has censorship resistance.

So what you are implying is that if/when a new digital currency overtakes Bitcoin, it will be one that thrives off of a different community altogether?

Yes. And it will be the one that enables 1000 Silk Roads bloom. Not just for drugs but for every fucking thing the gubermint regulates and fucks up. Everything from social networking to porn.

Stop trying to think of crypto as taking over the brick&mortar world.

The markets I just enumerated are 100 times bigger than anything Bitcoin has even tackled yet.

This will all become more apparent as the gubermints regulate Bitcoin more and more and capture it in bed with vulture capital. And as the global economic collapse proceeds into Economic Totalitarianism.

Spain fines you for taking a photo of police and posting it on social media. Etc, etc, etc....

I understand that there are niches out there that Bitcoin currently doesn't help to make more accessible, but is a niche currency actually a viable way to overcome Bitcoin? If mass adoption is the end goal, I don't think anything created solely to bypass the government could do the job. And on the topic of government...

What if some government created their own digital currency that saw mass adoption due to having characteristic similar to what people worldwide value in the US Dollar? That could potentially be the crypto that goes worldwide, even if it doesn't do any of the things Bitcoin prides itself in.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: TPTB_need_war on August 26, 2015, 01:20:44 AM
I understand that there are niches out there that Bitcoin currently doesn't help to make more accessible, but is a niche currency actually a viable way to overcome Bitcoin?

The niche will become the economy, because the gubermints will destroy everything that isn't censorship resistant over the next decade. Top-down control destroys network effects. Network effects is what gave us the great internet. They are trying to destroy it now.

You all are thinking about it wrong.

The sharpshooter from 1 mile away aims in front of the running target, else the bullet will be behind the target before it arrives.

The niche I described is larger than the current Bitcoin economy and it will grow very fast.

We've entered the global collapse as of October. It will worsen every year and in the West at least through 2032. It won't be like 2008. You all are not prepared.

All your Starbucks will be irrelevant. That socialist politically correct yuppie shit will die (cheap coffee for 30 cents and soup kitchens will thrive).


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: jeffthebaker on August 26, 2015, 01:29:35 AM
I understand that there are niches out there that Bitcoin currently doesn't help to make more accessible, but is a niche currency actually a viable way to overcome Bitcoin?

The niche will become the economy, because the gubermints will destroy everything that isn't censorship resistant over the next decade. Top-down control destroys network effects. Network effects is what gave us the great internet. They are trying to destroy it now.

You all are thinking about it wrong.

The sharpshooter from 1 mile away aims in front of the running target, else the bullet will be behind the target before it arrives.

The niche I described is larger than the current Bitcoin economy and it will grow very fast.

We've entered the global collapse as of October. It will worsen every year and in the West at least through 2032. It won't be like 2008. You all are not prepared.

All your Starbucks will be irrelevant. That shit will die (cheap coffee for 30 cents will thrive).

I guess it is technically possible for this future to be a reality. However, I think the chances of such an occurrance are low enough to remain negligible. Besides, if a worldwide economic collapse were just beginning, I imagine Bitcoin and gold would get the job done just fine. As obscure as Bitcoin is, any miracle currency that escapes government control is much, much more obscure, and there is no way in hell that an average Joe would turn to it.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: nextgencoin on August 26, 2015, 02:07:08 AM
Well ask yourself without emotion or attachment to your book which coin is the fastest, safe and soon anonomous.


That coin is currently Vanilla Coin.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: TPTB_need_war on August 26, 2015, 02:24:44 AM
I guess it is technically possible for this future to be a reality. However, I think the chances of such an occurrance are low enough to remain negligible. Besides, if a worldwide economic collapse were just beginning, I imagine Bitcoin and gold would get the job done just fine. As obscure as Bitcoin is, any miracle currency that escapes government control is much, much more obscure, and there is no way in hell that an average Joe would turn to it.

The chances of the outcome I painted are 99%. You are clueless (sorry but seriously). $227 trillion of global debt. On the verge of total economic collapse. Yeah you've heard that before but now it happens. Now.

And you are equally clueless about the technical censorship capabilities of Bitcoin.

Dude read my archives, then you will realize my background. Sorry not trying to be a jerk, but I don't have time for this. I am too busy coding. I am telling you what is, it is up to you to read my archives and wake up from being a boiling frog. Or don't. Sorry I can't help lazy people.

P.S. no offense intended. Trying to wake you up. My archives (including when I was AnonyMint and other user names) have loads of empirical data if you need that.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: SBOSS on August 26, 2015, 02:31:29 AM
Why do people think Bitcoin is depression proof?  In a depression the "cash rich" buy every asset (including precious metals) for pennies on the dollar.  

The real reason for price of gold increasing during the Great Depression was an artificial market when they confiscated gold and then implemented price fixing.  This is something the loony gold libertarians often omit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_fixing
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In 1933, Executive Order 6102 was signed by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, requiring US citizens to turn in their gold for $20.67 per ounce. Afterwards, the price of gold was set at $35.00 per ounce.

Unless the US government confiscates Bitcoin (*trying to contain my laughter*) and fixes the prices to $10,000 a coin ~ nobody is getting rich off Bitcoin in a depression.  More like what little buy support for Bitcoin would evaporate.  

In case you didn't notice, countries like Ukraine, Georgia and Argentina have huge Bitcoin coverage (soon Greece with 1000 ATMs) and yet nobody is buying Bitcoin over there - even though in theory, they need it the most.  In practice: when people have no money they HAVE NO money and can't acquire Bitcoins or any assets.




Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: TPTB_need_war on August 26, 2015, 02:34:11 AM
The only reason to acquire crypto-coin (in a depression) will be to be able to conduct commerce that the totalitarian bankrupt gubermints are going to outlawexpropriate because they need to steal everything in order to meet their unfunded social welfare liabilities.

This is Hilter's Universal Health Care all over again. You do realize the Nazis had to start killing "the weak and unfit" because the socialism was bankrupting Germany.

Look at all the starry-eyed 50% unemployed youth in Europe today. It's brewing again...


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: kelsey on August 26, 2015, 02:34:51 AM
think people need to get back to the basics.

what is purpose and benefits of a p2p currency, and what is needed.

in my mind the purpose of a p2p currency, is a currency that people can exchange freely without hindrance (whether that hindrance is in the form of governments or money changes).

also what is needed, is a currency that retains its value indefinitely, so work done today can be used and maintain its value at anytime in the future.

pretty simple but unobtainable thus far.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: TPTB_need_war on August 26, 2015, 02:35:18 AM
Exactly.

(except not indefinitely as that would enslave future production in usury...this is a myopia of many gold bugs...you need a very slow rate of debasement and not Bitcoin's 11% per annum debasement! It was higher in past years yet everyone says Bitcoin is not debasing and then later when it is GovCoin they will debase it more..)


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: Franciem on August 26, 2015, 02:38:09 AM
I prefer Litecoin to 2nd Big Currency :) faster verified transaction than bitcoin also price is very high than other altcoin
and 3rd is DOGEcoin :)


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: kelsey on August 26, 2015, 02:41:49 AM
Exactly.

(except not indefinitely as that would enslave future production in usury...this is a myopia of many gold bugs...you need a very slow rate of debasement)


problem is now the world/global economy is run on the opposite ie people using value of future work now, before having done said future work (which enslaves future production in usury).


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: thimo on August 26, 2015, 02:47:03 AM
MAPC from my sig might be :)


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: SBOSS on August 26, 2015, 02:52:48 AM
Quote from: kelsey link=topic=1161811.msg12243990#
msg12243990 date=1440556909
Exactly.

(except not indefinitely as that would enslave future production in usury...this is a myopia of many gold bugs...you need a very slow rate of debasement)


problem is now the world/global economy is run on the opposite ie people using value of future work now, before having done said future work.

Tech bubble.  Ignoring all fundamentals.  Problem who ever got punished?  Mark Cuban's Broadcast only made $15 million in revenue, no profit and today he is a billionaire reality TV star.  That was 20 years ago.

Current example is Elizabeth Holmes who admits her company is: "non-profit", refuses to publish financials, probably has never made a profit and yet strangers just made her a billionaire.  This is the present.

The reason they do is they think there will be future profit, as Kelsey indicated, but I've yet to see this working on the scale of those billions valuation.  

Ultimately a good question is where did these billions come from the first place?  Originally they were probably from pension plans and taxation dollars before the money started moving around.  In essence it was a transfer of wealth from the middle class to a select few.

 


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: jeffthebaker on August 26, 2015, 02:56:46 AM
I guess it is technically possible for this future to be a reality. However, I think the chances of such an occurrance are low enough to remain negligible. Besides, if a worldwide economic collapse were just beginning, I imagine Bitcoin and gold would get the job done just fine. As obscure as Bitcoin is, any miracle currency that escapes government control is much, much more obscure, and there is no way in hell that an average Joe would turn to it.

The chances of the outcome I painted are 99%. You are clueless (sorry but seriously). $227 trillion of global debt. On the verge of total economic collapse. Yeah you've heard that before but now it happens. Now.

And you are equally clueless about the technical censorship capabilities of Bitcoin.

Dude read my archives, then you will realize my background. Sorry not trying to be a jerk, but I don't have time for this. I am too busy coding. I am telling you what is, it is up to you to read my archives and wake up from being a boiling frog. Or don't. Sorry I can't help lazy people.

P.S. no offense intended. Trying to wake you up. My archives (including when I was AnonyMint and other user names) have loads of empirical data if you need that.

No offense intended, but I think you are full of shit. If USD collapses, people won't be looking for a new altcoin that can evade the governments. As I recall someone saying recently on the forums- if the USD collapses, you better be researching sustainable agriculture, not protecting your money.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: TPTB_need_war on August 26, 2015, 02:58:46 AM
Like every other fool who has ignored me and lost so much.

You should really review my record.

Your conceptualization is simpleton, myopic, and incorrect. The USD will not be collapsing, it will be growing stronger!


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: kelsey on August 26, 2015, 03:16:43 AM
Like every other fool who has ignored me and lost so much.

You should really review my record.

Your conceptualization is simpleton, myopic, and incorrect. The USD will not be collapsing, it will be growing stronger!

tis fine to debate, just don't drive angry  ;)


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: ArticMine on August 26, 2015, 03:50:40 AM
What are the two most pressing problems facing Bitcoin today?

1) The blocksize debate that is currently tearing the community apart
2) The threat to fungibility by the tracing of Bitcoins on the blockchain

Which is the most liquid POW coin that solves both of these problems?

1) Monero.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: Flyskyhigh on August 26, 2015, 03:53:19 AM
Mintcoin

http://www.mintcoinofficial.com/ (http://www.mintcoinofficial.com/)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.0)

Stay Fresh! Mint Coin


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: LieTOme on August 26, 2015, 05:22:17 AM
Mintcoin

http://www.mintcoinofficial.com/ (http://www.mintcoinofficial.com/)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.0)

Stay Fresh! Mint Coin
This is also an interesting one. I recommend this


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: n2004al on August 26, 2015, 05:35:27 AM
There will be never a replace for bitcoin. This is what I think. All the other coins, any kind of coins, will be some kind of clone of it and as such never real competitor to it. There are declaration of this kind every month but bitcoin is again there where it has being without any problem.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: foxkyu on August 26, 2015, 05:41:43 AM
There will be never a replace for bitcoin. This is what I think. All the other coins, any kind of coins, will be some kind of clone of it and as such never real competitor to it. There are declaration of this kind every month but bitcoin is again there where it has being without any problem.
for know i think i am agree with you. that there will be no competitor or other coin that can replace bitcoin
but in the next future there will be a new coin that can replace bitcoin with some condition.
we have to wait until some "big fish" join or create new project about cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: generalizethis on August 26, 2015, 06:11:16 AM
There will be never a replace for bitcoin. This is what I think. All the other coins, any kind of coins, will be some kind of clone of it and as such never real competitor to it. There are declaration of this kind every month but bitcoin is again there where it has being without any problem.


If you're set on never meaning the time you've experienced (IE the past of your example), how will you ever be wrong?

If you mean never as forever-ever (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRcaSIMxfYg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRcaSIMxfYg)), then how can you ever be right? I guess humanity could get wiped out by a singularity event (comet, disease, etc) and no more sentient life could exist again before the world gets swallowed up by the sun. But if humanity exist long enough, Bitcoin will be replaced. Whether it is by a form of cryptonight, zerocash, quantum money, whatever TPTB_need_war is developing or something else entirely is the question. My bet is that a true form of cash beats BTC long-term as the bankers and governments of the world can adopt Bitcoin's innovation and only a decentralized and opaque (or in quantum money's case user-verifiable security/confidentiality) blockchain is something they can't subsume in their lust for power.

Bitcoin and what follows and what follows and what follows that will only be the end game if innovation stops, and as TS Elliot pointed out, that is the type of whimpering context that the world ends on.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on August 26, 2015, 06:24:24 AM
Mintcoin

http://www.mintcoinofficial.com/ (http://www.mintcoinofficial.com/)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.0)

Stay Fresh! Mint Coin
This is also an interesting one. I recommend this

No doubt... even it if becomes worthless, you can still enjoy minty fresh breath.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: G2M on August 26, 2015, 06:26:50 AM
Mintcoin

http://www.mintcoinofficial.com/ (http://www.mintcoinofficial.com/)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.0)

Stay Fresh! Mint Coin
This is also an interesting one. I recommend this

No doubt... even it if becomes worthless, you can still enjoy minty fresh breath.

Personally, Mintcoin is on my grey list.

Would not buy.

I find my breath best maintained by hot dogs and colgate.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: juicyjuice87 on August 26, 2015, 01:05:38 PM
Wankcoin gets my vote


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: HeroCat on August 26, 2015, 01:16:41 PM
I think Dogecoin is very popular crypto  :) Many users, many sites are using it, Doge transfer times are very fast and cheap - just 1 Doge  ;)


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: Blawpaw on August 26, 2015, 01:45:45 PM
Mintcoin

http://www.mintcoinofficial.com/ (http://www.mintcoinofficial.com/)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.0)

Stay Fresh! Mint Coin
This is also an interesting one. I recommend this

No doubt... even it if becomes worthless, you can still enjoy minty fresh breath.

Personally, Mintcoin is on my grey list.

Would not buy.

I find my breath best maintained by hot dogs and colgate.

Mint is a nice crypto for staking but I don't really believe it could be it... There are a lot of innovative cryptos that far surpass Bitcoin and Litecoin.

Take as an example NMC who has introduced a new technology associated with the DNS and domain attribution. Currently there are other projects in the same area that could revolutionize the way we access the internet.

Take a Look ate the EMC coin that works with the emssh protocol...


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: thimo on August 28, 2015, 03:30:18 AM
LTC or DOGE at this point. I also make coins but they are different. Im trying to make MAPC a coin for android users to get paid for checkins.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: thefunkybits on August 28, 2015, 03:42:33 AM
MONERO XMR hands down

many of btc's early adopters share this sentiment as well. You cant say that about any other coin


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: Live4Crypto on August 28, 2015, 04:07:01 AM
Diamonds, Gold, Silver...take your pick.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: azguard on August 28, 2015, 04:59:37 AM
its what you think is the best profitable.
i dont mine so i can tell you what is the best but some friend that i know mine leocoin and they have profit so far, other dont mine right now and make money trading coin.


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: generalizethis on August 28, 2015, 06:14:59 AM
Diamonds, Gold, Silver...take your pick.

Cocaine


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: kelsey on August 28, 2015, 07:08:09 AM
Diamonds, Gold, Silver...take your pick.


hmmm someone who knows very little about the diamond market  :o


Title: Re: The best alternative to Bitcoin
Post by: BitcoinNational on October 12, 2015, 01:27:59 PM
I prefer Litecoin to 2nd Big Currency :) faster verified transaction than bitcoin also price is very high than other altcoin
and 3rd is DOGEcoin :)

LTC is the only legit alternative 'Digital Currency' to Bitcoin.
XRP might come up.
BTS and DASH can go #$&*@^ themselves.
DOGE ... lol .. get it together, then maybe.

$1M / 24hr min. or GTFO

everything else is a project (crypto asset) that could spinoff into Currency

- cocaine actually not a bad Currency
- diamonds shit investment 60% haircut
- gold, silver ... time tested

but the quality/purity is always in question ... crypto kinda fixed that ;)

Mintcoin

http://www.mintcoinofficial.com/ (http://www.mintcoinofficial.com/)
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in the meantime buy it up so I can dump once a funtional wallet is released ;)