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Title: Antminer s6 ?
Post by: Sweminer777 on August 26, 2015, 01:26:17 PM

So people is speculating about s7 but they havent released the s6 yet ...


people having big hopes? it probably wont be released untill next year. and if there are some already made s7 they prob use them self ;)


Title: Re: Antminer s6 ?
Post by: philipma1957 on August 26, 2015, 01:43:22 PM

So people is speculating about s7 but they havent released the s6 yet ...


people having big hopes? it probably wont be released untill next year. and if there are some already made s7 they prob use them self ;)

there are two other threads on this.

and most of us would tell you the antminer s-5+ is the s-6  and for some reason only known by bitmaintech they called it the s-5+


Title: Re: Antminer s6 ?
Post by: Sweminer777 on August 26, 2015, 02:13:39 PM

So people is speculating about s7 but they havent released the s6 yet ...


people having big hopes? it probably wont be released untill next year. and if there are some already made s7 they prob use them self ;)

there are two other threads on this.

and most of us would tell you the antminer s-5+ is the s-6  and for some reason only known by bitmaintech they called it the s-5+

Why would a company jump from a number  if they kept it nice and numbered since day 1?.

i think thatt they will put 2x s5+ on a server rack and call it s6 before the announce the real s7.

marketing tactics.

They make you happy whit some news, you save the money, they tell you that s6 will be released as the s7 protoypes are not even done yet ;)


Title: Re: Antminer s6 ?
Post by: sidehack on August 26, 2015, 02:54:55 PM
I thought the S4+ was the S6 and they didn't call it S6 because they used the previous gen chips. Something like that anyways.

Had they used the current-gen chips... 5x17 string instead of 3x17 would have gotten 4TH out of it with the same PSU.


Title: Re: Antminer s6 ?
Post by: -droid- on August 26, 2015, 08:37:52 PM

So people is speculating about s7 but they havent released the s6 yet ...


people having big hopes? it probably wont be released untill next year. and if there are some already made s7 they prob use them self ;)

there are two other threads on this.

and most of us would tell you the antminer s-5+ is the s-6  and for some reason only known by bitmaintech they called it the s-5+

Why would a company jump from a number  if they kept it nice and numbered since day 1?.

i think thatt they will put 2x s5+ on a server rack and call it s6 before the announce the real s7.

marketing tactics.

They make you happy whit some news, you save the money, they tell you that s6 will be released as the s7 protoypes are not even done yet ;)

yeah this could be, all they have to do is make an enclosure for it similar to the S2/S4


Title: Re: Antminer s6 ?
Post by: alh on August 27, 2015, 07:12:09 AM
Marketing folks make stuff all the time in terms of product designations. I figure most of the time it's the result of a bad bet and too much alcohol. Then the technical guys have to find an explanation that hides the awful truth.

If anybody remembers the PC Jr., The story I hear is that it was a bet between IBM Marketing and Engineering. Marketing said they could sell anything that Engineering could produce. Engineering wanted to prove them wrong.....

 :)


Title: Re: Antminer s6 ?
Post by: toptek on August 27, 2015, 08:47:46 AM

So people is speculating about s7 but they havent released the s6 yet ...


people having big hopes? it probably wont be released untill next year. and if there are some already made s7 they prob use them self ;)

there are two other threads on this.

and most of us would tell you the antminer s-5+ is the s-6  and for some reason only known by bitmaintech they called it the s-5+

Why would a company jump from a number  if they kept it nice and numbered since day 1?.

i think thatt they will put 2x s5+ on a server rack and call it s6 before the announce the real s7.

marketing tactics.

They make you happy whit some news, you save the money, they tell you that s6 will be released as the s7 protoypes are not even done yet ;)



It happens all the time MS just did it . and few others have in the past it nothing new to skip a number or two  :) . even if they started it out at 1 to what ever  , PC have been doing it for years .



AMD kind of did it .

with there new cards starting with the R series bitmain is no diff in that Degree just because it has one use doesn't  mean they won't change it to some name or way later on . as all said IBM PC started as joke, i meet the guy that introduced the first cheap IBM PC, he told me it was a joke,  they sold out in hours or one day i forget it was only like 10 k or so PC, they offered and ended up with 100 k in back orders, I believe it was. i can't prove i did but i did, it was many years ago .



yea it does throw you off and make you worry.  Maybe that's intended to .


Title: Re: Antminer s6 ?
Post by: mavericklm on August 27, 2015, 09:20:23 AM
i think bitmain will discontinue miners with internal psu
s2, s4, s4+
and they will go with no internal psu
s1, s3, s5....


Title: Re: Antminer s6 ?
Post by: toptek on August 27, 2015, 09:23:50 AM
i think bitmain will discontinue miners with internal psu
s2, s4, s4+
and they will go with no internal psu
s1, s3, s5....



makes sense less cost to them and us if they pass it along , end the end they make more and stay top dog .


Title: Re: Antminer s6 ?
Post by: steven.G999 on August 28, 2015, 01:34:41 PM
I don't think that's a good marketing tactic. How could they benefit from calling their products to S7? We saw inter-products before.
I think they just announced S7 before than expected time. S5+ came then suddenly they announced S7.
It's like Apple announces iPhone 7 then 2 days later 8. Would you buy iPhone 7 if that happens?


Title: Re: Antminer s6 ?
Post by: QuintLeo on August 29, 2015, 12:54:55 AM
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speculating about s7 but they havent released the s6


 It was mentioned a while back that the S6 model number was going to be skipped.

S6 would have been the BM1384, not the BM1382, per usual Bitmain numbering scheme.
S4+ numbering made perfect sense within the Bitmain numbering scheme as a BM1382-based "upgrade" to the original S4.

 I think they decided on the S5+ name 'cause it wasn't an actual rack mount unit, but it's an odd duck however you figure the numbering of it.

 S7 and S5+ are not aimed at the same market - and it appears they sold out completely on the S5+ just before they announced the S7, if I remember the timing right.

 I suspect they don't have enough BM1384 chips left to BOTHER trying to build/sell anything else with that chip in it, thus the timing on the BM1385 announcement.
 They certainly weren't pressed by EXTERNAL competition to any real degree to push up announcement of their next-gen chip.

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 s7...

 ...it probably wont be released untill next year.


 Reseller announcements have already claimed September.
 It's a virtual certainty the S7 has been in production for a month or so, perhaps longer. What were they replacing the Hashnest and main site "Used S5s" with if not the S7?
 Please don't say the S5+, I'd HATE to die laughing.



 Skipping model numbers is ancient news. Consider Windows version numbers.....



 
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If anybody remembers the PC Jr., The story I hear is that it was a bet between IBM Marketing and Engineering. Marketing said they could sell anything that Engineering could produce. Engineering wanted to prove them wrong.....


 That would explain so MUCH - and is actually believable.

 Sadly, though, I'm pretty sure the PC Jr. was intended to compete with the C64.