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Title: Determining Account Value
Post by: knightkon on August 28, 2015, 02:07:11 PM
I am looking to become a lender and I do not understand how to check and determine an account value.  Can someone please explain or direct me to a thread that will explain this.


Title: Re: Determining Account Value
Post by: DaddyMonsi on August 28, 2015, 02:10:55 PM
I am looking to become a lender and I do not understand how to check and determine an account value.  Can someone please explain or direct me to a thread that will explain this.

you can try using this http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/
but remember loanable amount should not exceed the current value of the account
so if account can be sold for 0.1BTC, loan should be lower than that like 0.07BTC or 0.06BTC that way borrower will try to reclaim the collateral used


Title: Re: Determining Account Value
Post by: whywefight on August 28, 2015, 02:11:25 PM
its the "makret" wo sets the value, just have a look for what amount accounts getting sold


Title: Re: Determining Account Value
Post by: Heutenamos on August 28, 2015, 02:14:34 PM
The person who made a site his name was "knightdk" and your name is "knightkon" this seems strange and bit funny. :D

Also account prices keep varying as based on market demand, usually are 0.25 for sr member and 0.5 for hero member.


Title: Re: Determining Account Value
Post by: Quickseller on August 28, 2015, 02:28:17 PM
If you accept forum accounts as collateral then there is almost a guarantee that every account that you accept will end up needing to be sold by you because the borrower will default.

Based on how many people are selling their accounts via loans, I would not suggest accepting them as collateral


Title: Re: Determining Account Value
Post by: hilariousandco on August 28, 2015, 03:15:58 PM
If you accept forum accounts as collateral then there is almost a guarantee that every account that you accept will end up needing to be sold by you because the borrower will default.

Based on how many people are selling their accounts via loans, I would not suggest accepting them as collateral

What does it matter if they do default? As long as the amount loaned out is less than what the account is worth then it's all good. Accounts can be perfect collateral really and the lender can actually make a nice return if they do default usually.


Title: Re: Determining Account Value
Post by: Quickseller on August 28, 2015, 03:30:29 PM
If you accept forum accounts as collateral then there is almost a guarantee that every account that you accept will end up needing to be sold by you because the borrower will default.

Based on how many people are selling their accounts via loans, I would not suggest accepting them as collateral

What does it matter if they do default? As long as the amount loaned out is less than what the account is worth then it's all good. Accounts can be perfect collateral really and the lender can actually make a nice return if they do default usually.
It is very difficult to know with certainty that an account has a certain value so the chances are greater that you might lend more the what you can sell it for. There is also the risk that the account was recently involved in a scam that will cause them to get negative trust, rendering it nearly worthless.

If you want to be able to buy up accounts on a cheap basis then it would be better to open a [WTB] thread in digital goods, then at least that way you won't be forced to wait two weeks (or however long the loan is for) to be able to either sell or start using the account.

There is also the issue that by buying accounts via loans that it will be public that an account is sold which decreases its value and lowering your potential return.

Lastly, many lenders do not appear to truly understand that accepting an account as collateral is almost a guarantee that they will end up defaulting as they hear the term "collateral" and they think borrowers have a strong incentive to repay when they do not.


Title: Re: Determining Account Value
Post by: eternalgloom on August 28, 2015, 05:24:07 PM
Are forum accounts actually selling on a regular basis or do you have to wait for a few weeks?
With correct pricing of course.


Title: Re: Determining Account Value
Post by: hilariousandco on August 28, 2015, 05:27:21 PM
Are forum accounts actually selling on a regular basis or do you have to wait for a few weeks?
With correct pricing of course.

They seem to sell quite easily but the value of them is continually falling so you'll likely have to be willing to deal with or accept low ball offers.


Title: Re: Determining Account Value
Post by: knightkon on August 29, 2015, 12:50:45 AM
The person who made a site his name was "knightdk" and your name is "knightkon" this seems strange and bit funny. :D

Also account prices keep varying as based on market demand, usually are 0.25 for sr member and 0.5 for hero member.
I am not that person for sure.  My name is James.  I took the name knightkon off of the movie Hackers (1995).  Thought it was cool!!  Thanks for the info, I am learning more and more each day.