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Title: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: dgsbgm35 on September 01, 2015, 09:15:11 PM
with the recent talk about the fork and all that is it the wrong time to invest for someone like me who is new to the game


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: knight22 on September 01, 2015, 09:18:33 PM
Stay away. Bitcoin is becoming a centralized failure.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: gentlemand on September 01, 2015, 09:20:45 PM
Confusion and impending doom is the best time to get into anything, but only if it comes out the other side stronger. Only you can decide whether you can stomach that risk.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: Athertle on September 01, 2015, 09:21:15 PM
Stay away. Bitcoin is becoming a centralized failure.

I will have to say the same; loyal bitcoiners will be sure to bombard this thread about how to stay calm and how the price of bitcoin will surely rise, but for now it looks like it's going down.

Bitcoin price chart. (http://www.coindesk.com/price)


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: AgentofCoin on September 01, 2015, 09:23:32 PM
with the recent talk about the fork and all that is it the wrong time to invest for someone like me who is new to the game

If things correct themselves and we all come to a middle ground,
then now is the best time to buy (or maybe a little lower between 180 USD to 200 USD).

It all really depends on how much you can financially lose and if you are willing to be a long time holder.

Currently, Bitcoin/bitcoin is still considered an experiment.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: timchen on September 01, 2015, 09:23:58 PM
Stay away. Bitcoin is becoming a centralized failure.

I will have to say the same; loyal bitcoiners will be sure to bombard this thread about how to stay calm and how the price of bitcoin will surely rise, but for now it looks like it's going down.

Bitcoin price chart. (http://www.coindesk.com/price)

That;s not something you should be basing your decision on though what you should be is whether you believe whichever way bitcoin goes will it suceed? at the moment I only see it surviving if it continues the way it is now and use the temporary fixes that gmaxwell proposes


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: tvbcof on September 01, 2015, 09:36:29 PM

That;s not something you should be basing your decision on though what you should be is whether you believe whichever way bitcoin goes will it suceed? at the moment I only see it surviving if it continues the way it is now and use the temporary fixes that gmaxwell proposes

Which ones, specifically?  When Greg talks, I listen...but I don't follow him closely enough to know everything he says or does.



Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: RGBKey on September 01, 2015, 09:49:28 PM
I wouldn't say bitcoin is becoming a centralized failure, at least not yet. It completely depends on the direction things go in the next few months. I'm not a diehard "bitcoin can never lose value" kind of person, but I'm not going to say things can't go badly from this position either.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: Za1n on September 01, 2015, 10:01:27 PM
IMO the best time to be buying is now. If you can buy in ~$200/BTC, even if it goes back up to $300 you would make 150% of your investment. If it goes to $400 you make 200% of your money, in probably less than 12 months. If it goes lower than $200 in the next month or two, buy even more.

If, however, you wait until BTC gets its legs again, and buy in at say $300, it would need to rise to $450 to make 150% and $600 to double your money.

Of course, everything is a risk, but BTC has been around for awhile now and with all the money invested in it and surrounding tech and infrastructure, it is not going away anytime soon.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: randy8777 on September 01, 2015, 10:04:47 PM
i never buy when it's going perfectly fine with bitcoins or stocks. that's most likely when the price is already too high. best time to buy is when people are panic selling and dumping it real hard.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: ashour on September 01, 2015, 10:06:11 PM
I think that this is probably the best time to invest into bitcoin. The price is low and is stable at $180, the price can either fall a bit or get higher than now which is more likely.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: unholycactus on September 01, 2015, 10:07:28 PM
Confusion and impending doom is the best time to get into anything, but only if it comes out the other side stronger. Only you can decide whether you can stomach that risk.
This is what makes money, I guess if the herd could deal with the "stress" of buying during the questionable times it would be different.

I doubt bear spread options are possible in the Bitcoin world. In other words, it's not possible to profit from situations like these. There are times where "impending doom" and "confusion" causes real losses. Telling a newbie it's the best time to get into Bitcoin is irresponsible.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: Coinshot on September 01, 2015, 10:11:45 PM
When everyone is panicking, it's the best time to buy actually, noone should buy during a hype. But i would wait a bit more for
the price to go a bit under 200, which is a real possibility.
After that it should be smooth sail, because all this bs about forks will go away sooner or later.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: Mickeyb on September 01, 2015, 10:12:45 PM
with the recent talk about the fork and all that is it the wrong time to invest for someone like me who is new to the game

Did you hear about that one, "buy when there is a blood in the streets"? Times like these are the best for investment. Not when we were at $1,000 and everybody were buying. Interestingly, when we were hovering about $700-800, everybody begged for cheap coins, now when they are here, nobody wants them.

Bitcoin is still just an experiment and can fail. If you ask me, if we can't have a consensus over a block size increase, then we need to fail, since there will be many more consensuses to reach down the road that might be even trickier.

But if and when we reach it, price should take off to at least a pre fork level, $300. It's up to you to decide. Do a research and listen to yourself.  


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: RGBKey on September 01, 2015, 10:13:07 PM
Confusion and impending doom is the best time to get into anything, but only if it comes out the other side stronger. Only you can decide whether you can stomach that risk.
This is what makes money, I guess if the herd could deal with the "stress" of buying during the questionable times it would be different.

I doubt bear spread options are possible in the Bitcoin world. In other words, it's not possible to profit from situations like these. There are times where "impending doom" and "confusion" causes real losses. Telling a newbie it's the best time to get into Bitcoin is irresponsible.
When everyone is panicking, it's the best time to buy actually, noone should buy during a hype. But i would wait a bit more for
the price to go a bit under 200, which is a real possibility.
After that it should be smooth sail, because all this bs about forks will go away sooner or later.
You need to understand that "all this bs about forks" is going to be the kind of news that will cause the price to drop. This is what makes people sell, when they get scared about the future of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: ingiltere on September 01, 2015, 10:15:08 PM
I don't know if it's wrong time but it's clearly not the right time either. We've seen better days before.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: AgentofCoin on September 01, 2015, 10:16:32 PM
...when we were hovering about $700-800, everybody begged for cheap coins, now when they are here, nobody wants them.
...

Yes this is a funny point and very true.
I wished for prices like today and now that it is here, its funny that some users are claiming to be getting out.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: Za1n on September 01, 2015, 11:08:09 PM
...when we were hovering about $700-800, everybody begged for cheap coins, now when they are here, nobody wants them.
...

Yes this is a funny point and very true.
I wished for prices like today and now that it is here, its funny that some users are claiming to be getting out.

And they will be the same ones buying back in once it gets back above $500 as they don't want to be left out, lol. While the smart money who bought in sub $200 will already be up 200-300% by then.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: ShamrockHannah on September 01, 2015, 11:10:29 PM
Depends what way you mean investing for a start but I would say bad idea. Don't invest more than you care to lose


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: fryarminer on September 01, 2015, 11:23:01 PM
I personally am very invested in bitcoin, just got my first paycheck 100% in bitcoin, but I'm going to withdraw from bitcointalk for a while. The copious amount of trolls, FUD spreaders and useless arguing from people who know nothing but say they know everything has really turned me off. This is like noob central unleashed.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: gentlemand on September 01, 2015, 11:26:37 PM

Telling a newbie it's the best time to get into Bitcoin is irresponsible.


You'll notice that I added the caveat 'stomach the risk'.

It depends what said newbie wants. If they just want to transact then it doesn't really matter when they buy. If they want to make money then they have to break off from the herd, ignore their emotions and buy when things are looking shaky. I don't know if it's anywhere near reaching that phase. It might become a whole lot worse.

Those who bought when Silk Road was closed and people briefly thought the whole game was over did rather better than those who bought at $1000 when it looked like it was hitting the parabolic curve and everyone was set for life.

That's how every market works without fail. It's up to them to decide for themselves whether they've got what it takes to make the right call.



Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: unholycactus on September 01, 2015, 11:35:40 PM

Telling a newbie it's the best time to get into Bitcoin is irresponsible.


You'll notice that I added the caveat 'stomach the risk'.

It depends what said newbie wants. If they just want to transact then it doesn't really matter when they buy. If they want to make money then they have to break off from the herd, ignore their emotions and buy when things are looking shaky. I don't know if it's anywhere near reaching that phase. It might become a whole lot worse.

Those who bought when Silk Road was closed and people briefly thought the whole game was over did rather better than those who bought at $1000 when it looked like it was hitting the parabolic curve and everyone was set for life.

That's how every market works without fail. It's up to them to decide for themselves whether they've got what it takes to make the right call.



It doesn't matter how much risk you can take, you should never invest in something you know close to nothing about.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: xhoneyael on September 02, 2015, 04:34:52 AM
bitcoin price is not stable price can go higher over night..
but it also can go lower too..
even everyone think that its the wrong time for me its the right time..
price is low and it can go lower than this in the next week or month..
just invest what you can afford to lose..





Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: jacktheking on September 02, 2015, 08:20:34 AM
It might be a bad time to invest into Bitcoin today as there's some dispute going on. However buying (investing) today will definitely bring your some money back when Bitcoin dispute is over and then the price continue to soar even higher. I would suggest newbie to invest now if they can handle downfall coming in the next few months. If not, better stay away.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: btccashacc on September 02, 2015, 08:23:09 AM
with the recent talk about the fork and all that is it the wrong time to invest for someone like me who is new to the game

bitcoin price is very cheap now
The fork issue created by whales, he want to buy more bitcoin at cheap price


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: Daniel91 on September 02, 2015, 09:00:58 AM
It might be a bad time to invest into Bitcoin today as there's some dispute going on. However buying (investing) today will definitely bring your some money back when Bitcoin dispute is over and then the price continue to soar even higher. I would suggest newbie to invest now if they can handle downfall coming in the next few months. If not, better stay away.

Very good advice.
In any investment golden rule is the same: Invest just money you can afford to loose.
Also, patience is virtue and people who can wait are usually winners.
I'm just sorry that I didn't join bitcoin 2-3 years ago but doesn't matter.
I can wait, how long it takes, that value of bitcoin reach old level again.
In my opinion, this is still good time to invest in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: Kprawn on September 02, 2015, 09:27:19 AM
This is just a storm in a cup, and it will blow over very quickly... everyone knows the block size will have to be increased, no matter what Bip is accepted. Bitcoin will not fail because of the block size.

Like one of the previous posters said... Buy when the blood is in the street.  :) The debate going on now, is just two opposing forces trying to achieve dominance over the other to control Bitcoin.

The technology will still be there, and the people will still use it no matter what side win the battle. It has just been blown up by the media for some attention to feed their agendas.  ::)


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: tadakaluri on September 02, 2015, 11:40:59 AM
This is the best time to invest in Bitcoin.  But invest in small quantities on regular intervals for a long term investment.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: Denker on September 02, 2015, 11:44:41 AM
No risk no reward. Now the time is more risky than before because at the moment with the whole debate going on nobody really knows in which direction Bitcoin will go. On the other side the price to buy some bitcoins is really low now and I doubt it will get much lower if not tremendous negative event in Bitcoin space will happen.
So it's up to you as always.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: Yerm on September 02, 2015, 01:16:08 PM
When everyone is panicking, it's the best time to buy actually, noone should buy during a hype. But i would wait a bit more for
the price to go a bit under 200, which is a real possibility.
After that it should be smooth sail, because all this bs about forks will go away sooner or later.
strongly agree, this is almost the perfect time to buy.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: flock123 on September 02, 2015, 02:29:48 PM
I guess not, bitcoin is not changed, only the price is changed, if you wish to make a number of bitcoinmu much, there is nothing wrong to invest


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: Enjorlas on September 02, 2015, 03:06:32 PM
I would say for now, the perfect window to buy bitcoin is aometime AFTER September with all this FUD going on with stress tests and the Dow crashing. And BEFORE June 2016 when the block reward halves. Also before the Gemeni exchange launches.


Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: maokoto on September 02, 2015, 03:10:10 PM
with the recent talk about the fork and all that is it the wrong time to invest for someone like me who is new to the game

you can stay calm and just try to earn some bitcoins with faucets or micro tasks (bitcoinget, signature campaign) while you learn more about it and become more secure to have a opinion.



Title: Re: Wrong time to invest in bitcoin with the confusion?
Post by: S4VV4S on September 02, 2015, 03:48:06 PM
with the recent talk about the fork and all that is it the wrong time to invest for someone like me who is new to the game

If things correct themselves and we all come to a middle ground,
then now is the best time to buy (or maybe a little lower between 180 USD to 200 USD).

It all really depends on how much you can financially lose and if you are willing to be a long time holder.

Currently, Bitcoin/bitcoin is still considered an experiment.

True, and as such, one must take great care of how they invest their money and never invest more than they can afford to lose.