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The irony is, this all could have been avoided if Ashley Madison used Bitcoin to accept payments instead of the outdated credit card system which due it's centralized nature requires that ALL data is stored, all credit card movements + information is on their databases. So I hope they learned the lesson and next time they buy some Bitcoin.

That is not true.
Credit Card processing does NOT require all customer data being stored on the stores website.
Credit card processing requires some vital customer info for payment processing but that data need be not stored afterwards.

However, I do agree with you that using Bitcoin would have made things a little more private for their customers.

I do not feel sorry for the Ashley Madison customers. How stupid. Regards to the hackers, good job! Once again it have proven how unsafe things are and Bitcoin has shown another time how to be used for criminals.

I disagree. I think there's a special place in hell for the hackers who would try to extort people like that.

I do not feel sorry for the Ashley Madison customers. How stupid. Regards to the hackers, good job! Once again it have proven how unsafe things are and Bitcoin has shown another time how to be used for criminals.

That is not true.
Credit Card processing does NOT require all customer data being stored on the stores website.
Credit card processing requires some vital customer info for payment processing but that data need be not stored afterwards.

However, I do agree with you that using Bitcoin would have made things a little more private for their customers.

I disagree. I think there's a special place in hell for the hackers who would try to extort people like that.

Indeed :P private for the criminals now, haha ...

The thing is, this would be bad press for bitcoin. Silk road and such are still fresh.

I'm not sure that you should be feeling sorry for cheaters. Karma has struck them hard. A ransom like this is always taught because there is no guarantee that the hacker will not keep asking for money. This reminds me of CryptoLocker, where they made off with around $3M. I do not feel sorry for such people at all. Practically with the information dump, anyone who is familiar with Bitcoin and privacy could extort money from these people. I've seen some examples online. (http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/09/extorting-money-from-ashley-madison-customers-is-actually-pretty-easy/)

You're partially right. The number of companies that do not store data is minimum. The benefits of Bitcoin should be obvious in cases like these.

So you support cheating? Interesting.

So you support cheating? Interesting.

The irony is, this all could have been avoided if Ashley Madison used Bitcoin to accept payments instead of the outdated credit card system which due it's centralized nature requires that ALL data is stored, all credit card movements + information is on their databases. So I hope they learned the lesson and next time they buy some Bitcoin.

And the irony is, all these poor guys didn't have affairs. They just wound up chatting with Ashley Madison sockpuppets on the site. (Analysis of the hack data shows virtually zero real female activity at the site, but tens of thousands of sockpuppet accounts. So almost no one was having a real affair, but they are paying for it now.)

This is the kind of "bad people" I think should not be punished (these "hackers"). Liars, cheaters, and all of their kind deserve public scorn (or been blackmailed :P).

Please don't put words in my mouth.  Two wrongs don't make a right, and I think infidelity is far less malicious than blackmail.

Please list a person (in this particular hack) who got harmed for doing nothing. You can't talk about either cases in general, but rather in particular. Cheaters deserve something. Are you saying that it was wrong to expose this to the world? It is wrong to tell someone's wife that they were being cheated upon all along? Should we keep quiet about these things?
As a side note, I'm not saying that I support cheating, blackmail nor hacking.

Please list a person (in this particular hack) who got harmed for doing nothing. You can't talk about either cases in general, but rather in particular. Cheaters deserve something. Are you saying that it was wrong to expose this to the world? It is wrong to tell someone's wife that they were being cheated upon all along? Should we keep quiet about these things?

You can debate whether they shouldn't have released this information (I think they shouldn't have), but its definitely wrong
to release it and then demand money.  In my opinion anyway.

I think its nobody's business what you do in your personal life.  Your marital fidelity is your own business.
You think other people should go around passing out judgements? Cause thats what it sounds like you're implying.

I'm not a god, so I'm not really interested in prescribing peoples' punishment for cheating. You can't really compare "telling someone's wife" with actively extorting them for profit.

It's quite sad to see people cheering for blackmailers.

while you are not in support of cheating (your words), you are okay with it?
 

You both have forgotten something important here. With the information being public (you can't really tell who hacked it and who leaked it), anyone is able to extort them. You can't put everyone in the same bag because:
1) Participant A hacked the site; B) Participant B leaked information; C) Participant C (or random person since information is public) is blackmailing people.
I'm not saying that there isn't a possibility that there is a participant (X) who is doing (has done) all of the above.

I don't care about any of that. I'm pretty confident that the database was hacked with the intent to extort (or to sell to a buyer that intended to extort). In any case, they knew that they were exposing a lot of innocent people and opening the door to mass extortion. Whether it was some self-righteous religious scum pushing some moral agenda or profiteers intending to extort, there is no way to rationalize this. Sorry. Certainly not under the pretense that "cheaters deserve something."

Yes. If you are into "having fun on the side" why do not you simply set an open relationship? (be honest with your partner and "allow" her/him to have her/his own, or get someone worth for her/his standards).

On the other hand, if you are not married why are you "looking for fun" in a site targeted to married women?, there are plenty of single chicks willing to have one-night sex (for a few drinks or, even, for free). I have no idea about how much is the membership at Ashley Madison, maybe you could even hire a "decent/fine" prostitute with that money.



They may choose not to pay :P. I have never visited any of those sites, but from what I have read here the information came from credit cards (or well, you need to be too dumb to use your real details, if so, there would be no need of any hack, just a curious friend of you searching the site), soooo... they funded their accounts, sooo... they at least had the intention (I mean, if they had had the opportunity, the would have done it). About being single then marrying, I do not know how old the site is, but come on... did you marry your 3 weeks girlfriend? Besides what I already pointed out up there (why would you look for married women?), what would be the problem in recognizing "yeah, I used to like bitches"?

I personally don't believe this but someone over the Forum was saying that the sudden increase in BTC Price is due to the reason quoted in OP.
What do you Say friends?

Silly people..... Why would you use your regular email address to do something bad when it takes 5 minutes to make a new one?

I do not feel sorry for the Ashley Madison customers. How stupid. Regards to the hackers, good job! Once again it have proven how unsafe things are and Bitcoin has shown another time how to be used for criminals.

I'm pretty confident that the database was hacked with the intent to extort (or to sell to a buyer that intended to extort).