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just wondering if it can be short-term investment
i was thinking about it and said no
gold price changes in years not days
what do you think about this ?

I think not, trading with gold is much more... Effective than hoping the price will return from it's 5 year low for a minuscule profit. Short term, of course not, long term, possibly? Trading, always an option if done correctly.

IF you look at the all time graphs on gold you'll see that gold is either a long term investment or just a store of value. The pump and dumps happen in way less liquid markets such as BTC, and even then it's still not worth it, I mean if you want to gamble you might as well go to the casino.

Gold was never meant to be a form of investment which is suitable for short-term duration. However, in certain circumstances, it can be considered as a short-term asset. Consider a country such as Venezuela or Ukraine, which is being ravaged by hyper-inflation. Gold can be the most accessible and risk-free asset, which can help you to retain your wealth.

i personally don't consider gold an investment. to me it is just a way of storing value. but if you look at it from an investor point of view, then it is more a long term investment.

Do you have insights into the short-term fluctuations in the price of gold? If not, then short-term would be more gambling than investing. Of course, the same could be said for long term.

The problem is that short term swings are too small to make a decent profit.. Unless you hold a substaintial amount of gold, but that may not be realistic.

they said that leverage was done for this kind of reason, you have small fluctuation and small amount, you simply borrow from them x20, for big profit if you're good

asad777, I think bryant.coleman gets it just right: it depends on your circumstances.  If you live anywhere dangerous, yes, OK, gold is great for a short-term investment.  Portable, liquid and easy to hide.

But, gold's real value is that it has been the best Store of Value for over 5000 years...

For me, diversification is the key.  Gold has relatively low correlation with other investments.  You (and everyone) should consider gold if you have children...  "Intergenerational Wealth" (FOFOA).

It just depends. A real short term investment where you expect to yield a return in a short period of time, no I don't think that gold can fulfill this. On the other side if you need to get the money out of the country it can serve you well, but I don't consider that as an investment.

Gold moves slowly and in much longer spans, that's why the gold is perfect for investing in longer periods of time, not in short since you just won't have much of the price movement.

Yes it is correct gold moves quite slowly so if one want to make a decent profit then he has to trade gold in bigger quantity. So what I think is gold is good for long term investments.

Precious metals are definitely long term you should also use them as an inflation hedge to protect yourself in a crisis, if paper money ends you'll want to have a stash of silver to trade with.

Well, if paper money ends that would basically mean tons of purchasing power flowing into Bitcoin and metals, so anyone holding a decent amount would automatically be rich, you would be able to choose what to use to trade with at that point.

Gold is definitely a long-term investment, the charts already point it out. Shorting it wouldn't be a great idea since its price only moves in a span of weeks or months. Also, gold could be a great storage of value if that's what you're looking for aside from keeping it as a long-term investment.

That's my plan ^_^

I do not see gold being a short term investment. The only way I see it's value increasing hugely over a short period of time to make it "short term" is some sort of economic meltdown. While it's been "predicted" for ages now, I don't see it happening in the foreseeable future.

No, gold is the best for long-term investment.
like @Lethn said, gold can safe yourself when in crisis. it's like Bitcoin, but the different is the price is volatile than gold. Bitcoin can be short-term investment and for earn more profit it can be long-term investment.

Nobody knows which direction gold is heading next in short term. Buying gold is like placing a bet on red or black at the roulette table for short term purposes and your chance of winning will very less however if you go for long term perspective then surely you will make good stable returns from the gold. I would say gold is long term investment and no for short term investments

Gold has outperformed stocks for the last 40 years so well worth having some stashed away -

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user20289/imageroot/2015/08/king.jpg

Gold has definitely lost some of its attraction for investors due to market volatility but gold goes up over time for sure. Commodities like gold should make up a small section of your overall portfolio so I wouldn't put more than 10% of my own savings into gold. If you look at the history of gold over the long run it has always gave good returns compared to other long term investments.

For large banks, yes - gold can be short - time investment. They put a large amount of cash in gold buying and then sale it after let say 6 hours. For private person - you do not have so large investment possibilities like the large banks.  ;D

Short term? Seems unlikely gold is used by the small investor mostly as a store of value, they want to hold their gold and are probably for the long term if not for their entire lifetimes.

Even better to do like the Old Rich in Europe do: hold gold forever, never sell.  Hand it down through the generations.

"Intergenerational Wealth" (FOFOA's blog)

Gold, the best Store of Value since 4000 BC!

In terms of absolute returns gold is not very attractive in short term compared to real estate and shares market investments. For short term investments however gold is a very strong bet compared to shares that are highly volatile. The idea for gold investment will be to use it at times when the markets are falling and when the inflation is very high.

LOL, you beat me with that comment. On topic, in order to work, you’ll need to raise your children and grandchildren with the truth about the economic system and not only that, they’ll need to be successful.

I don’t know if you watch Pawn Stars but in that show abound examples of children and grandchildren that found out that their parents/grandparents had gold, and what do they do? Sell it as fast as they can.

The thing about gold is that you can't be wrong when investing in it, it's just a matter of how much time you have or plan to keep your investments in it.
When you are talking about short term investments, gold is definitely not the answer, from the exact reason op described - it takes a lot of time for the price to move.
Better go for bitcoin instead, the chances of turning a profit in one year time is way greater, and the profit has the potential of 2-5x the investment probably.

no, gold is for long-term investment because price gold is slowest move

Nice!  Yes, we have been trying to raise ours to be dubious about lying .gov and .fed.  And explain the long-term value of gold.

I am going to guess that "Pawn Stars" and similar shows are either highly scripted, or they pick & choose.......

There is no saying how many heirs keep quiet.

Price of Gold fluctuates but not a significant change that one can say a good short term investment.
Gold is good for long term investment. Gold started at $1,107/oz Sept 01, its now $1,111/oz

As per me NO. If you have surplus money invest in liquid securities like Bank deposits and this deposits are as good as currency. Gold never gets an equivalent amount of cash for its value. If you go for selling you will always get lesser amount. Moreover the increase in price is very meagre for the past few years when compared an investment in Bank deposit, mutual fund, stock market and real estate.

Definitely no. The margin on buying and selling gold is too wide and you will need a lot of movement to even make some decent return. At this current pace it is moving for the past 2 years, i highly doubt. But for long term, it's yes.

yep, although gold can be considered an investment if done for over many years. in the short term, i think of gold as just a store of value.

Gold can't be a good short-term investment, try investing in something else like stocks or something else. You can make profit with gold in an longer period of time, it is the same with silver.

Are you sure in stocks one can make money in short term? If you want to do day trading in stock market is different but want to invest in any company then need a longer time to appreciate stock prices.

I always have it in my mind as a long term investment but from the time gold entered the stock market things are pretty skewed over how much physical gold is available.

better to go with forex than stock for daytrading, there is much more action there, usd/eur, gbp/eur and jpy/eur or usd

i tried with gold and silver, but they are more slow for day trading, talking about commodities

It highly depends on what profit you are expecting or whether your are using leverage through CFD or certificate trading for instance. The gold price could be varying between 3 to 10% on stormy weeks. If you are using leverages or turbo certificates you make a good profit.

Really? i have experiences traded gold, and i think the price movement of gold is very volatile
so, actually if we can traded gold, it will be more profitable than if we traded currencies pairs

That’s great, when, in the future I have children, a priority of mine will be teaching them how the economic system really works.

And about the Pawn Stars show, well it’s obvious that almost all of these “Reality Shows” are not real at all and are scripted, however it still surprises me the things people sell, like personal belongings of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln etc.

no never gold is probably not the rigjt commodity if you are think about a short-time investment insted try to invest on oil that is a good short time investment and really profitabpe it done correctly

Any logic in that? Oil is pretty volatile too.
If you are investing in paper (e-gold) then it is probably okay. If you are investing in physical gold, there will be transaction costs which are substantial.

IMO, there is going to be a sharp upswing in the gold price for the next few years. I have a feeling that big bankers are artificially keeping the price of gold down. That is the reason why the prices are not increasing although the demand is at all time high. Also, recoverable gold is about to get exhausted. At the current rate of mine production, we have only 20 more years of recoverable gold remaining in the earth's crust.

Well, yes, but...

Physical is where the biggest price increases will come.  Zero Hedge (and others) posted charts showing a 220-some PAPER claims on each ounce of physical gold.  At some point, there will be 200 people disappointed that they did not own "their ounce" as the piece of paper they have says they did...

Also, gold has one major peculiarity that no other commodity has: a HUGE stock:flow ratio.  Almost all gold produced still exists, is owned by someone.  Most gold "sits very still" (that is, it does not move, nor is even traded; it just sits there).  This nets out, in the end, of meaning that gold mine closures (and other supply disruptions) matter fairly little.

What will matter re future price of gold is demand.  When paper gold is shown to be a massive ponzi, "paper gold" (COMEX price, GLD value) will go to (or trend to) $0.00 while physical will disappear (at first) and then come out the other side valued into the FIVE FIGURES per ounce.

I'm with you 100% on this one. Demand for gold is really high at the moment but prices are not increasing. Also, the euro is in a really bad shape and I can see chinese investors buying gold like crazy to get out of yuan.

almost all investments need a long term..
i think in gold its not advisable to invest in short terms.
but it is always up to you. i think if you want to try gold ,
you can try in trading. but still it needs long term.
so goodluck.

Answering op's question depends on the expectation one has for his "investment". If you want an alternative to cash with not too huge volatility* that has no counterparty risk (= the government), then you can buy gold with any time horizon. If you want to get a quick return from your investment than gold will not be the most preferable solution - you will need an asset that has higher risk (for example gold mining stocks ;)).

*) One might argue, if gold has become a rather volatile asset in recent years...

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Gold can be short term investment. But Gold is in search of it's next boom. But bitcoin has guarantee to give us boom so often. So for short term also I do not prefer gold to invest in...

Gold is a good investment, its price will rise up in the future but  of course it will still depends on the accessibility the demands of the consumers. It is a good investment to have something like that and it is better than not investing anything,