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Title: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: CrazyJoker on September 07, 2015, 09:21:24 PM
I am running a game ChainProfit.com (http://www.chainprofit.com) for more than four months on Investor-based games (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=207.0) section. Vod suspected me that I am a scammer and left me a -ve feedback on mid of May 2015. It was resolved after a long conversation in this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060467.0. Vod's last condition to remove my -ve trust was to lock that thread and so did I. Three months have passed. Not a single person can accuse me that I have ever tried to cheat anyone. Please check my game thread for clarification - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=926237.0. Hence, after almost four months of successfuly running ChainProfit.com (http://www.chainprofit.com), on September 03, 2015, I requested Vod in PM to remove my neutral trust.

Hi... lately I saw you are back to the forum. So, may I request you to check my games thread, i.e. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=926237.0, for any complaint for last few months and then decide to remove the neutral feedback from my profile ?

Thanking You,
CrazyJoker

Surprisingly, Vod posted elsewhere, e.g. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173349.0, but did not respond to my PM yet. Hence, I assume, he is ignoring me. So, I have no other way to ask the community whether his neutral trust on me is justified ?

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Running a "ponzi" type scheme, but has modified his site to give more accurate information to members.


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: master-P on September 07, 2015, 09:24:59 PM
I bet Vod gets tons of PMs everyday from people who harass him, spam him, or like you; asking for ratings to be removed or revised. Give him some time to reply, don't automatically assume someone is ignoring you because they're unable to reply right away. Everyone here has a life outside of these forums, keep that in mind :)


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: Quickseller on September 07, 2015, 09:27:50 PM
I am not entirely sure what Vod is even still doing on DT. I was under the impression that he was going to "stop" scam busting because he retired.....I guess that did not turn out to be true.

He certainly has a very strange criteria as to what is a scam.....he even says that religious organizations are scams.....


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: Jhanzo on September 07, 2015, 09:28:22 PM
no he shouldn't. and ncsupanda and Grand_Voyageur shouldn't remove their neutral feedback either.

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Positive - You trust this person or had a successful trade.
Neutral - Comments. Your rating will not affect this person's trust score.
Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: CrazyJoker on September 07, 2015, 09:28:59 PM
I bet Vod gets tons of PMs everyday from people who harass him, spam him, or like you; asking for ratings to be removed or revised. Give him some time to reply, don't automatically assume someone is ignoring you because they're unable to reply right away. Everyone here has a life outside of these forums, keep that in mind :)
As you can see, I sent the PM on September 3, 2015 and this is September 7, 2015. From his post history, he has made 100+ posts in this span. And I have to believe, he could not get time to respond to my little PM ?


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: deadley on September 07, 2015, 11:02:56 PM
Actually you are lucky, you got only neutral feedback. Otherwise in most cases he give negative feedback so you must be happy for this and do what you are doing till now. It will not affect you at all.


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: MarbleBoss on September 07, 2015, 11:17:49 PM
Actually you are lucky, you got only neutral feedback. Otherwise in most cases he give negative feedback so you must be happy for this and do what you are doing till now. It will not affect you at all.
You signature spammers are insane. Did you even read the OP or posted just by reading the subject line ? Vod first gave -ve feedback and that was resolved long time ago.

Or you notion is Vod can give -ve feedback to anyone at his whim and someone getting neutral needs to be happy about that ?


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on September 07, 2015, 11:17:59 PM
Just looked at your trust score & the feedback Vod left you. I wouldn't remotely worry about it, he hasn't said anything that's really going to affect you.


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: Quickseller on September 07, 2015, 11:30:54 PM
Actually you are lucky, you got only neutral feedback. Otherwise in most cases he give negative feedback so you must be happy for this and do what you are doing till now. It will not affect you at all.
You signature spammers are insane. Did you even read the OP or posted just by reading the subject line ? Vod first gave -ve feedback and that was resolved long time ago.

Or you notion is Vod can give -ve feedback to anyone at his whim and someone getting neutral needs to be happy about that ?
I would need to agree with your first line. Although the OP does run a ponzi game, it was clearly disclosed from the beginning, and when the OP received some criticism about the sufficiency of his disclosure, he worked with the community to improve it. IMO, if anything he should have a positive rating.

Regarding the second line, it appears this does appear to be the case....


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: deadley on September 08, 2015, 12:25:55 AM
Actually you are lucky, you got only neutral feedback. Otherwise in most cases he give negative feedback so you must be happy for this and do what you are doing till now. It will not affect you at all.
You signature spammers are insane. Did you even read the OP or posted just by reading the subject line ? Vod first gave -ve feedback and that was resolved long time ago.

Or you notion is Vod can give -ve feedback to anyone at his whim and someone getting neutral needs to be happy about that ?

lol first you check my contract with signature already over. And I merely write 10-20 post within a week so you just check before writing.
 I am just keeping signature for loyalty.
I just posted my opinion what I feel and btw why don't you come to your main acc. Normally new account don't talk to Hero member like this.

P.S. Checked history of your account. Thank you another sock puppet account.


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: Vod on September 08, 2015, 03:41:21 AM
1) You are running a ponzi site.  You could close down at any time and steal all deposits.

2) It is neutral feedback that does not affect your account.  It's a simple warning to others that the site you run in not legitimate.  In fact, it even acknowledges the fact you made changes to make the site more fair.


I am not entirely sure what Vod is even still doing on DT. I was under the impression that he was going to "stop" scam busting because he retired.....I guess that did not turn out to be true.

He certainly has a very strange criteria as to what is a scam.....he even says that religious organizations are scams.....

I'm still retiring from scam busting.  :)   I'm looking for something to occupy my time, and once I find it, I'll be a lot less active here.  Right now I have a few hobbies but they don't take up my entire day (well, today it did).

Religious organizations are scams.  They take money in exchange for the promise of eternal afterlife.


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: Quickseller on September 08, 2015, 03:56:27 AM
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Religious organizations are scams.  They take money in exchange for the promise of eternal afterlife.
It has been a long time since I have attended church, and I am an atheist currently.

When I did attend church in t he past, any money given to them was used for things like the salaries for those who try to teach things like forgiveness, and who give moral support to those who are going through a rough time. The money was also to be used for things like missions to other countries whose governments are very poor.


Where I work, there are policies in place that support diversity and inclusion. It is "nice" to have a forum/community that believes that something is a scam because similar beliefs are not held. (I use the word "nice" in a sarcastic way and obviously do not believe that statement)


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: Vod on September 08, 2015, 04:04:33 AM
It is "nice" to have a forum/community that believes that something is a scam because similar beliefs are not held.

At no time did I ever state or even imply that the forum beliefs were my beliefs. 

http://media.giphy.com/media/mmYy42RNrgA0w/giphy.gif


Anyway, I hope I don't regret this show of compassion, but I will take your "word" that you are leaving the community, and I won't leave you negative feedback for your escrow scam.  I really doubt it would result in my exclusion of DT.

I'll revisit this the end of this week, hopefully at which time you'll be gone.   :)


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: BitcoinDistributor on September 08, 2015, 04:21:43 AM
It is "nice" to have a forum/community that believes that something is a scam because similar beliefs are not held.

At no time did I ever state or even imply that my beliefs were the forum's beliefs.

http://media.giphy.com/media/mmYy42RNrgA0w/giphy.gif


Anyway, I hope I don't regret this show of compassion, but I will take your "word" that you are leaving the community, and I won't leave you negative feedback for your escrow scam.  I really doubt it would result in my exclusion of DT.

I'll revisit this the end of this week, hopefully at which time you'll be gone.   :)
Vod I'm surprised you used a competitors IMG, there is no better comedy than family guy, I'm surprised in the many seasons of it we have both watched I'm sure, there was never a scene like this.

As much as I dislike you, hope your hiatus was good. Its good to get away from this place, its like death sometimes.


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: GannickusX on September 08, 2015, 09:19:52 AM
So you are running a ponzi and you got a neutral rating from vod telling other people that you are running a ponzi but you want the rating removed? What?


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: Blazr on September 08, 2015, 09:25:36 AM
So you are running a ponzi and you got a neutral rating from vod telling other people that you are running a ponzi but you want the rating removed? What?

Yes this is what the forum has come down to, just a bunch of scammers whinging about their trust.


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: ndnh on September 08, 2015, 10:23:13 AM
I read the neutral rating.

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Running a "ponzi" type scheme, but has modified his site to give more accurate information to members.

Which part do you disagree with?

It is a valid trust feedback. Your trust score still reads 0, and I doubt whether it is going to affect what you do.


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: siwakotisaurav on September 11, 2015, 03:30:52 PM
Vod is correct in this, at least he gave you a chance to improve. IMO a ngative would've been better as you tried running a ponzi, which in itself should make someone believe that you can scam someone if given the chance.


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: CrazyJoker on September 13, 2015, 03:46:30 PM
@Vod Thank you for posting your point of viw here.

1) You are running a ponzi site.  You could close down at any time and steal all deposits.
If you check the site, you'd find that the game has probably come to an end. The last bet has been expired and I have already paid people for their deposit.

2) It is neutral feedback that does not affect your account.  It's a simple warning to others that the site you run in not legitimate.  In fact, it even acknowledges the fact you made changes to make the site more fair.
The comment says...
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Running a "ponzi" type scheme, but has modified his site to give more accurate information to members.
But, as I have told you before and even dooglus, shorena and a few others agreed that I never run a Ponzi Scheme. Ponzi Schemes are those run by Cloud Mining services. They are defrauding people under disguise. I run a Ponzi based gambling game with full disclosure. But, your comment indicates as if I am a scammer, whereas I have never scammed or tried to scam anyone. So, if you are determined to keep the feedback, may I request you to at least modify it to the following statement, which actually depicts the reality...
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Run a Ponzi based gambling game, but honestly paid back every player as per game rule.


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: GannickusX on September 14, 2015, 08:02:54 AM
In my opinion you should just leave as it is, afterall its only neutral, with this post you have got already a few neg ratings by untrusted people, if you keep pushing it you will eventually get a red from dt


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: Mrzinzin on September 14, 2015, 08:05:19 AM
Dood, you run a ponzi yet you still have neutral trust.

You are really luck, even the honest ones that say they are a ponzi and don't try to deceive people usually receive red trust


Title: Re: Should Vod remove the neutral feedback from CrazyJoker ?
Post by: Albert Hamilton on September 18, 2015, 06:03:30 PM
If anything, Joker desrves +ve trust in my opinion for running an honest operation for so long. Just like we need to weed out and tag the scammers, we need to encourage honest activity as well...