Bitcoin Forum

I understand there is a lack of alternatives, and there is not a better place for up to date information.

But, in the light of Bitcoin and what it represents, neither of these platforms promote the same ideologies.  So, just curious to reach out and ask why the community continues to visit these sites?  What is your take?  Would you move to another platform? What would it take? What are your favorite alternatives?  And 170,000 odd subscribers, what # do you estimates is multiple user accounts (I personally have about 8 of those) and active Bitcoiners?

because this is the best forum for talk about bitcoin and alternative currency.

doesn't fit in with your ideologies yet you're here posting and with 8 accounts no less? now why would anyone have 8 accounts?

What do you think Bitcoin represents? It is impossible to understand your argument if you don't clarify this.

I have thought of leaving the forum because of the numerous garbage and troll posts that appeared in the last couple of years, but not because of ideological reasons.

I believe that if we have 1 main forum, everyone will see no point in making another because they will loose all of their stats and posts.

But, if you don't like it, make your own forum. No one is stopping you.

This is still where most of the action is, dead forums are no fun.

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I'm OK w/ bitcointalk.org.  I don't like reddit, but that's just me.  I found my way here as a beginner back in the days when blockchain.info linked to threads here.  I wonder why they stopped that?

I like the format here too vs. reddit.  It's a little easier to explore topics at some length vs. reddit.

Consensus, decentralization and innovation.  All of which rely on discussion and debate in an open unbias environment to produce effective results and work in a positive direction.

My thread is clearly a question to hear others thoughts on the subject.  At what point in my post did I suggest I wasn't going to, wasn't capable of or had intention of creating one. Didn't simply asked for peoples feelings on the subject as you would do in a forum of discussion on a topic no? eat a dick.

Fair enough, thanks for the reply!

I have been a miner since 2011 and I find the Mining and Technical discussion sections very informative. This is why I continue to visit this forum. You can't find the wealth of information that you can find here elsewhere.

As for the Bitcoin Discussion section, to be honest, I consider it to be mostly chit-chat and not to be taken seriously anymore these days. For technical reasons, I am against BIP101, so maybe I am don't feel the alleged censorship as others who are for this BIP might.

They continue to be the biggest games in town. Reddit doesn't really compute for me. I think it's a shit way to construct discussion and there's no way to delve into historical posts unlike here.

I find the censorship aspect odious in the extreme but ultimately it's a private enterprise and they can do what the hell they like. Hopefully more hands off forums will emerge but I don't hold out much hope.

Cool to note.  I can definitely see where you are coming from on those topics, not my forte, but seems like the right place to be learning.

I continue to use bitcointalk since it is the go-to place for most bitcoin discussion and the fact that I don't understand reddit. I find the development and technical discussion subforum to be very helpful and very insightful into proposed changes and new ideas on how to do things.

The marketplace section is also a place I like to frequent and that section makes me money from people who want coding work done.

and of course, sig campaigns  ;D

Mine was introduce by an employer. Since then i like to hangout in here. I didn't usually make a post. So i stay newbie after a year.

As for the issue in resizing the blockchain. You can share you thoughts here http://coin-vote.com/poll/55e8a33299baadff0a34acb7 I think it is also relevant.  ;D

Well, this is the site to come if you want to be informed about bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, it has a lot of intelligent posters, and it seems that in every page there is a golden nugget of knowledge ready to be picked up.

Well, only this web my income comes..
not even only with signature but i usually sell account or provide a service to get some BTC

Anyone who has 8 accounts is clearly account farming and gets negative trust.
We just had an incident today where it was revealed that Quickseller was escrowing
for his own alts.

i do not support r/bitcoin until they are already stopped banning us for random reason.
lemme know what happened to the r/bitcoin ?
i have no idea, bitcointalk.org is much more freedom and less possibility of random post deletion.

I'm not really following the r/bitcoin, I just don't like reddit as a whole...
And about this forum... Just because there are no (at least, I haven't found any) decent alternatives I guess?

First you're wrong to mentioned bitcointalk.org on your title thread.
I'm not follow bitcoin on reddit, because my internet provider is suck their block reddit site. So, bitcoin forum which i followed is this forum. My alt site for up to date information about Bitcoin is bitcoin site news like coindesk, cointelegraph, bitcoin magazine and i followed the news through twitter and facebook too.

Both of these platforms offer a wealth of information and very informative feedback to questions. The trolls and spam do not bother me, because I am intelligent enough to identify and filter them on my own. The so called censorship on \r\Bitcoin on Reddit was just something that was over exaggerated to benefit the XT agenda. {Sympathy vote}

Everything is back to normal now, and both platforms are still fully supported and very active. It's very educational and also beneficial to the community to have these kinds of platforms for discussion.

 

Sure the quality of most of the posts have gone downhill for the last year or two, but so has the "buzz" and new info surrounding btc. The posts here are lower quality because of sig campaigns, but the sig campaigns are tolerated because activity in these forums was already dwindling.

I joined in feb 2012 (I think) and I knew next to nil about btc. If it wasn't for these forums and my ability to ask very specific questions I'd probably still be struggling with the basics. I think bitcoin talk is still good for this. Anything noteworthy on the reddit sub appears here so I never bother with it.

I'm guessing the REAL btc forum, where the really informative and interesting stuff is, is a private affair that only devs can access (mailing list?)

Anyway, there's really nothing else for us muggles except this here

apparently you did not understand, because this is the only reason why we are here, if there were better places i'm sure the community would have shifted long time ago

some times it's a matter of what it is less worst, to choose

first its not bitcointalk.com its bitcointalk.org
its not about because of lack of alternative it about how stable the site is and how imformative the site..
there are many new site forum but why will you join there if all the imformation is already here..
do you want to ask again the same quetion in that forum that its already answered here ..

I think these are the most important reasons many users are visiting this great forum every day. This forum has given many people to start finding additional income with their spare time. Either they can earn from signature campaign or sell their services to this community without any advertising expenses.

Because here is the place where you will find all the knowledge you want to get to know about Bitcoin.Especially when you are new into this space. Here are most of the guys who are really deep in it and passionate about it.The best place to keep yourself updated and to communicate.

I don't understand, where do you want us to go. This is an official Bitcoin forum where all the action takes place. This is still the easisest place for newbies and more experienced users to get the info they want really fast.

Would we change if there was an alternative? Well, that's like you are asking us, would we change for another coin if it was better than Bitcoin. This coin still doesn't exist, nor does an alternative to forum like this one, so would we change or not is very hard to answer.

I think he's referring to Reddit. That's the type of place where you need multiple accounts as they gradually get shadow banned or forgotten.

It's still the place where everyone gathers and share information. Even if you create a new forum, same platform with the feel, colors and everything unchanged except for the domain name, people would still or mostly likely remain at bitcointalk. It's the pioneer advantage we are talking about here.

because both are the most popular places on the internet with the highest number of users. as for bitcointalk, i think it was the first bitcoin forum that was created and satoshi was on here.
besides there is no better place to go from here. bitcointalk loads fast and easy and it is up all the time. and reddit is a good option since i use it for other subs i subscribe to /r/bitcoin too.

i have tries a couple of other crypto related forums (like cryptocointalk.com of the top of my mind) but there is just not enough life there to make me want to visit them regularly. and honestly i don't see anybody leaving these two places until the rules are the same as what they are now and meanwhile there is not better place to go.

I am not a reddit fan.
I find it difficult to follow a thread there.

The forums here is where I started my journey in Bitcoin.
I got help from members here to setup my miners and how to operate them.
In time and slowly I got into the spirit of Bitcoin.
The forums here are rich in information and if you are up for it, you can make a little bit of extra coins.
So, where else?

For me I think this is the biggest community in here about bitcoins. I cannot find any other site like this one. Fully informative + the services we can get in here.

Cypherdoc? Is that you? No one wants to use your forum dude. Give it up.

Cypherdoc? Not I.  I actually run enjoybitcoins.com, and came here to post a question and gauge the communities response. But I enjoy that you fit right in with the people around here who can see through a computer... Pretty insane skill, seem tuned right in #LOL.  You might need a tune up boss.  ;D

I only support bitcointalk because of the amount of people posting on here and posting useful information. If another site popes up tomorrow that was just as big as bitcointalk and well known I would use that as well but theirs too many sister sites trying to do the same as bitcointalk and fail have a lot of activity on it and then end up coming back on bitcointalk. Even I have my own altcoin website and never really took off but I plan sometime in the future to give it a shot at making it just as big as Bitcointalk and the go to place for information. But that will take time and many members and traffic and guests visiting.

Just from this thread alone I've added about 6 users to my ignore list for worthless sig campaign posts or shitty English or both.  I like the fact that btctalk is not censored, but sig campaigns just do not help intelligent discussion.

Reddit is garbage.  Reminds me of Myspace back in the day.  Cluttered, ugly, and unintuitive.

Bitcointalk is the most respected and oldest forum since bitcoin launch..And you won't find much members anywhere else then here..That's the main reason people share their view on bitcoin here not anywhere else because of much larger audience :)

The upvote system is the advantage of reddit, it does have some draw backs though like you say.  I'd rather a forum like this with an upvote system.

Feel free to add me in their haters be hating. Even if I did not have a sig campaign under my name, I would be posting just as much or even more throughout bitcointalk. Theirs times I do not post or post as much as I use to due to the fact I am working on projects that should exceed bitcointalk in the future. But that is going to take some work to get a place as big and successful as bitcointalk. Campaign is just giving me coin for something am already doing, as they are using my signature space to promote their business and get their name about. Bitcointalk need to get their act together on a lot of things but chose not to. I have highlighted many times past and current but do nothing about it to improve. Guess this will be used in my own forums when ready.

Unless you can find a forum that is decentralized I'm not sure how you could have one that promotes the same ideologies. Bitcointalk is currently the best place and its hardly run by nazis though people complain whenever their thread gets moved into the correct section. Personally I wouldn't change unless a clear superior forum came about.

If you feel as tho it is wrong and by looks of it is and no dubt theirs plenty of people who abuse the rating system. Take it up with support and ask them to review it maybe will remove it for you. I don't have such features like this because it can wreck a persons account and some have the ability to us but only trusted members or have to be approved by mod.

because are the best and i dont have only one  8)

The invalid URL claim is false, works fine for me. If you wish to leave feedback, you can try again later.
If you could explain why you have 8 accounts, I'd like to hear it.

I don't feel it is wrong, it IS wrong. I have not farmed accounts on here, and my negative trust is basically solely guaged on this misreading of this original post which I suggested I have made multiple accounts on REDDIT, not here. I invite you to try and leave negative feedback on the account that did mine, and you will be brought to an invalid URL page. I do find that quite ironic, and am wondering if the account is one of theymos', or another Bitcointalk moderator that clearly got their panties in a bunch due to my negative post. It is a little frustrating and I will be leaving this forum shortly, as clearly it is not a fit place to judge content or trust in any context.

The fact that I have negative feedback due to a lie, is comical. The fact that the account who left the negative feedback based his trust rating on MIS reading this post, is also quite humerus.  The fact that you cannot leave negative feedback in return to his (or) her lies, is eye opening. Clearly this place is subject to the same type of selective censorship and negativity as r/bitcoin.  It's a little frustrating after working to do my part in this community for so long but I will get over it.

Who doesn't have throw aways on reddit?

I don't.
I have to agree with you that jonald_fyookball might have misread your post. You might want to contact him.

I found a link to the real forum where the good stuff is:

https://uCrypto.co

And what do you expect to achieve by posting retaliatory accusations before you've even tried to get him to reconsider feedback he may have left mistakenly? Or was it just easier to go off into that red ink rant?

Easier to go off on a rant seeing as I cannot return the favor of negative trust.

 This site has been able to answer all my questions about Bitcoin, so far. I've had to search through piles of bullshit to find answers but it's been worth  it.
 
 p.s.
 When i read your post the first time,i thought that you meant 8 accounts on Bitcointalk too .
 On re-reading it,i see that i was wrong.
 
 

Because all other places are dead compared to it, and because you get the developers posting stuff on here. I have asked some stuff in the technical section and gmaxwell was cool enough to drop a reply. They seem overall like good fellas. Of course I see the drama with Theymos on reddit etc and i understand a lot don't like it. I personally don't use reddit, it's annoying as hell when I click on a thread title and a link opens instead of the actual thread.

This forum is quite good for personal chat and conversing in detail, I do agree with you on that!  Reddit seems to be good for news circulation, but I have since been focusing on Google - Bitcoin - filter news

Misread the OP.  Settle down rubberneck.

Remove my negative trust due to your personal incompetence then.  And how many others have you judged based on quick judgement without reading?  Are any of your trust feedbacks legitimate?

The negative trust was removed. Check again, and stop being off topic.

where else would i go?

Talk about what you want in your own thread, I'll talk about what I want in mine.

Capiche?  

I do love how you contributed to the offtopic'ness. Thanks bud.

Here's 30 other choices for Bitcoin forums and discussion (http://enjoybitcoins.com/bitcoin-directory/forums/)

The only thing I don't support is the ease at which you can destroy someone's trust. I received negative trust from a scammer, simply for calling home out on his bullshit

Yeah it's pretty easy in this neck of the woods. Tis a shame, yet there seems to be a number of great forums and such surfacing. I think it's just a matter of time before a few developments are ready for launch into the world of decentralized discussion platforms. There's been talk about a few, but they must require a bit of time. Anxiously awaiting.  ;D

You'll have to forgive me, but there's been a lot of "account farmers" here in bitcointalk
who create accounts to spam and scam and sell them to others who spam and scam.
I thought you meant you had 8 BCT accounts.

I think mostly because this is the most established forum. There are still plenty of new other places to talk also.

Trust has been settled. I appreciate your hard work in ensuring that scammers are called out, just give people the benefit of the doubt, there is a lot of passionate people on here and sometimes they might appear to be something they're not, something that gets lost in translation through online / inpersonal communication.  I apologize for not being clearer in my original post.

Very true!

@itsamemario Well it seems your neg trust rating is removed and you have a positive one on your account. If you contacted support about it looks like they removed it or the person who left it has kindly removed it from your trust. :)

Well, now this has become the negative trust thread.

Move to meta in 5...4...3...2...

Lol it is not just trust theirs a few things going on here since it was original why continue to support bitcointalk etc and one guy had a problem with some form of rating. I don't think will get moved because of that but hay who knows this is Bitcointalk :P

You answered your own question in your first sentence. And you're right that these platforms don't promote the same ideologies, they promoted all ideologies of the entire bitcoin community. Reddit doesn't have some stance on bitcoin, nor does Bitcointalk...they're infrastructure, not people.

We go where the biggest collection of people go, like a bunch of sheep in a herd.  ;D It would be very lonely to talk to yourself in a forum with 20 people.  ::) The biggest debate and discussion is still on this forum

and on \r\Bitcoin on Reddit. It also gives you that warm feeling inside, knowing that you part of a active community of people, passionate about the same thing on a platform where it all started. You can still go back

to Satoshi's posts on this forum, and this cannot be said about other platforms.  ::)

If you walk away from the discussion, you're only encouraging a split in the community.  Also, if too many people in one place share identical views, all you've achieved is creating an echo-chamber of people who won't stop to question the direction they've agreed to move in (which may come back to bite you later).  Sometimes dissent is necessary.  It's better to stand your ground and argue for what you believe in than to walk away and leave those you disagree with unopposed.  If Bitcointalk is still the largest forum and it appears as though most of the people on that forum are supporting smaller blocks, what impression does that give?  Get back over here, join the debate and stop thinking that a little splinter movement is going to achieve anything but removing yourselves from the discussion.

Do you mean [Suspicious link removed]? Both sites are different I guess

its the two best resources of information.

I used to be an active poster on reddit and here (with another account) but I stopped because of the ridiculous behavior by the mods.
If I want to discuss Bitcoin with others, I do in private channels. I'm just here when I'm bored and like to read about the latest gossip.
I think, the 2 main Bitcoin forums have become irrelevant to people who are deeply involved in Bitcoin. Sure, every now and then, there are good threads and it's also fine for asking questions but that's it. Besides, a centralized managed forum for a decentralized currency just doesn't fit.

Well depending on what behavior by the mods you are referring to I would agree in some ways if on about making stupid decisions about stuff that has gone on and nothing gets done to prevent it. More actions should be taken on this form and more rules created on who can post what and where and what type of post is and not allowed. Their should be some sort of restrictions for business being posted or such gambling and ponzi stuff as many people get ripped off. People getting banned and making alt accounts should be put to a stop and some part of a section available for banned accounts and support section made for them to post in and admins or mods answer their questions. Too little is done on the forums to keep clean and tidy or scammer free and seems admins only let people get away with it and other people get damaged by it.

Because it is very informative here.

Because thats the onllllly reliable place to earn bitcoin and learn about bitcoin

bitcointalk has a very active trading forum.

What are the other choices we have?

I actually like the community here and most people seem to give pretty decent advice when you ask questions without making fun of you and all that garbage.

There is no other viable option.  It is the same reason that when computers started out that PC's were so dominate, there is just no other options to compete, then Mac came along and started kicking butt and now there are choices.

I like bitcointalk.com, today whatever I have learned about bitcoins is from this site only. When started as a newbie I was very excited about Bitcoins. There were many questions in my mind like what is bitcoins, how it works, how to use them and many more. My knowledge regarding bitcoins has been increased only because of bitcointalk.com. There are so many threads and discussion which are helpful for the beginners.

Bitcoin has provided the option to all those who are fed up with the fiat currency, banks and they are ready to accept alternate options. There are no restrictions of banks, there is a privacy and its simple, innovation and easy to use. These are few plus points for Bitcoins. Bitcointalk.com is providing the platform for all the bitcoin users to have a healthy discussion and gain some more knowledge about bitcoins.

because this our hub

I think you forgot to mention that bitcointalk allows you to post absolute nonsense in order to earn through signature campaigns. But don't worry, I just mentioned that for you.

That's true that you can gain knowledge from this forum but you are forgetting that you can also earn bitcoins from this forum by joining signature campaigns, and it is the best and the safest way to earn bitcoins, but yes it is definitely best for the newbies who are learning about the bitcoins and want to earn bitcoins and want to continue with it.

I want to learn more about bitcoins and earn some extra bitcoins without pressuring myself too much. Also, this is a good training ground if you want your profession to be related to politics, economics, technology and other stuff because from here, you would pick up some interesting knowledge from different threads.