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Title: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on September 08, 2015, 04:30:49 PM
Hey there ,

I'd like to hear from users who have used this e-coin.io and tell me how legit and how good it is , they can't ship their card to my country however I emailed them and they said they will enable Virtual cards within a month (that happened yesterday) , I checked the website once again today and seems like they added Virtual cards (so not sure wtf is going on) .

Anyway I asked them on email how I will be able to get the Virtual card if they are asking me about real informations and Algeria is not listed on the countries ;.. so they told me "Be Creative . LOL" 

So what I did is making fake informations I got the number of the Visa , expiration date and also the CVV and I would like to hear from users who already used this card on PayPal to know if I risk to get my account limited or that's fine ? thank you !


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: jdebunt on September 08, 2015, 04:57:34 PM
I'm not sure how well Paypal "plays" with Algerian IP's, but your account might get flagged sooner or later for further verification.

The card itself should not raise too many flags, but the IP addressed used to access the account might :)


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: tiggytomb on September 08, 2015, 05:16:29 PM
Never seen these guys before, always a bit dubious when told to be creative, I wouldn't be surprised if like jdebunt said Paypal had throws you some kind of issue.


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: jdebunt on September 09, 2015, 05:25:12 AM
Never seen these guys before, always a bit dubious when told to be creative, I wouldn't be surprised if like jdebunt said Paypal had throws you some kind of issue.

The "get creative" part is not that uncommon for debit card providers, mind you. Not just in the Bitcoin space, but in general.

Either way, Paypal is an odd creature and they randomly flag accounts, it's just a matter of luck in this case


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on September 09, 2015, 06:00:43 AM
Never seen these guys before, always a bit dubious when told to be creative, I wouldn't be surprised if like jdebunt said Paypal had throws you some kind of issue.

The "get creative" part is nott hat uncommon for debit card providers, mind you. Not just in the Bitcoin space, but in general.

Either way, Paypal is an odd creature and they randomly flag accounts, it's just a matter of luck in this case

I just took my chances and tried them and I'am getting this message when I login to Paypal:

""You can now receive payments. Payments you receive go to your pending balance. Payments in your pending balance belong to you, but you can't use or withdraw them, usually for 30 days. ""

Also little bit off topic : what I'am supposed to do to get the new UI of PayPal ? :o my old paypal had it , but this one don't


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: jdebunt on September 09, 2015, 11:19:51 AM
I just took my chances and tried them and I'am getting this message when I login to Paypal:

""You can now receive payments. Payments you receive go to your pending balance. Payments in your pending balance belong to you, but you can't use or withdraw them, usually for 30 days. ""

Also little bit off topic : what I'am supposed to do to get the new UI of PayPal ? :o my old paypal had it , but this one don't

So far so good then, i'd say :) the 30 day limit is a bit strange, but OK... :)

Not sure how to get the new UI, I got mine automatically.... :)


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: lorylore on September 09, 2015, 11:27:53 AM
Yesterday i analyzed their product offers and saw Virtual Debit Card,
But what is the use of this if i can not get the money from ATMs ?
I don't like the new Paypal UI so you are "lucky" lol, have you tried to look for Xapo Debit card?


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: tonycamp on September 09, 2015, 11:32:52 AM
i dont advise debit cards i mean they are not like visa are less important even visa i dont wear much just to conect to paypal i like the new UI by the way of paypal.


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on September 09, 2015, 12:05:20 PM
Yesterday i analyzed their product offers and saw Virtual Debit Card,
But what is the use of this if i can not get the money from ATMs ?
I don't like the new Paypal UI so you are "lucky" lol, have you tried to look for Xapo Debit card?

Well it's simple , most of the website like Amazon , Ebay etc ... accepts Visa, MasterCard and don't accept Bitcoin . So if you only have Bitcoin you could deposit into your e-coin.io account then load your card with those funds to use the card virtually for purchases , couldn't be simplier ;D


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: lorylore on September 09, 2015, 12:08:27 PM
Yesterday i analyzed their product offers and saw Virtual Debit Card,
But what is the use of this if i can not get the money from ATMs ?
I don't like the new Paypal UI so you are "lucky" lol, have you tried to look for Xapo Debit card?

Well it's simple , most of the website like Amazon , Ebay etc ... accepts Visa, MasterCard and don't accept Bitcoin . So if you only have Bitcoin you could deposit into your e-coin.io account then load your card with those funds to use the card virtually for purchases , couldn't be simplier ;D

Well you are right, but the question is does it worth?
Personally it does not worth for me, why? Because you can get amazon gift cards cheaper with bitcoin.
Around 70-90% of the Value. But with debit card you should pay fee and other things.
You know the best if it fits you or not, i am also looking to purchase a debit card and i dont know which one to choose (Bit-x, Xapo or e-coin)


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: jdebunt on September 09, 2015, 03:01:40 PM
i dont advise debit cards i mean they are not like visa are less important even visa i dont wear much just to conect to paypal i like the new UI by the way of paypal.

Debit cards are issued by the same Visa or Mastercard brand, just like regular credit cards. But I assume you mean debit cards are not accepted everywhere credit cards are accepted, which is unfortunately true.


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: lorylore on September 09, 2015, 06:49:07 PM
i dont advise debit cards i mean they are not like visa are less important even visa i dont wear much just to conect to paypal i like the new UI by the way of paypal.

Debit cards are issued by the same Visa or Mastercard brand, just like regular credit cards. But I assume you mean debit cards are not accepted everywhere credit cards are accepted, which is unfortunately true.

As far as i know both are accepted everywhere.
There is no difference between credit and debit, i also read this http://www.diffen.com/difference/Credit_Card_vs_Debit_Card#Acceptance_by_Merchants
OP please check this thread may interest you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=917350.0


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: jdebunt on September 10, 2015, 05:28:04 AM
As far as i know both are accepted everywhere.
There is no difference between credit and debit, i also read this http://www.diffen.com/difference/Credit_Card_vs_Debit_Card#Acceptance_by_Merchants
OP please check this thread may interest you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=917350.0

Technically speaking, every credit card terminal can accept debit cards. But if the merchant has the software configured to only accept credit cards, debit cards will not work.

It doesn't happen very often though but there are places where only one type is accepted (for some reason)



Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: lorylore on September 10, 2015, 11:11:03 AM
As far as i know both are accepted everywhere.
There is no difference between credit and debit, i also read this http://www.diffen.com/difference/Credit_Card_vs_Debit_Card#Acceptance_by_Merchants
OP please check this thread may interest you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=917350.0

Technically speaking, every credit card terminal can accept debit cards. But if the merchant has the software configured to only accept credit cards, debit cards will not work.

It doesn't happen very often though but there are places where only one type is accepted (for some reason)

Well maybe but it's my first time that i hear this.
Since debit cards are 99% accepted everywhere i dont apply for credit :P
OP have you found any useful information about e-coin bitcoin debit card.


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on September 10, 2015, 12:07:50 PM
As far as i know both are accepted everywhere.
There is no difference between credit and debit, i also read this http://www.diffen.com/difference/Credit_Card_vs_Debit_Card#Acceptance_by_Merchants
OP please check this thread may interest you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=917350.0

Technically speaking, every credit card terminal can accept debit cards. But if the merchant has the software configured to only accept credit cards, debit cards will not work.

It doesn't happen very often though but there are places where only one type is accepted (for some reason)

Well maybe but it's my first time that i hear this.
Since debit cards are 99% accepted everywhere i dont apply for credit :P
OP have you found any useful information about e-coin bitcoin debit card.

I wanted it only because I needed to verify PayPal and this is done  , yes with e-coin Virtual debit card .
I upgraded my account to Business and I don't see this message anymore : """You can now receive payments. Payments you receive go to your pending balance. Payments in your pending balance belong to you, but you can't use or withdraw them, usually for 30 days. "" (Paypal) Hopefully it dosen't appear once again , other then that everything is working as should be .


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: lorylore on September 10, 2015, 12:12:49 PM
As far as i know both are accepted everywhere.
There is no difference between credit and debit, i also read this http://www.diffen.com/difference/Credit_Card_vs_Debit_Card#Acceptance_by_Merchants
OP please check this thread may interest you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=917350.0

Technically speaking, every credit card terminal can accept debit cards. But if the merchant has the software configured to only accept credit cards, debit cards will not work.

It doesn't happen very often though but there are places where only one type is accepted (for some reason)

Well maybe but it's my first time that i hear this.
Since debit cards are 99% accepted everywhere i dont apply for credit :P
OP have you found any useful information about e-coin bitcoin debit card.

I wanted it only because I needed to verify PayPal and this is done  , yes with e-coin Virtual debit card .
I upgraded my account to Business and I don't see this message anymore : """You can now receive payments. Payments you receive go to your pending balance. Payments in your pending balance belong to you, but you can't use or withdraw them, usually for 30 days. "" (Paypal) Hopefully it dosen't appear once again , other then that everything is working as should be .

Great, what have you put at the billing address card details? You current resident address or whatever?
This is nice when the virtual card works for paypal.
How much money did you put in the virtual card?


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on September 10, 2015, 12:16:50 PM
For what comes to all the informations I used Fakenamegenerator.com (since he asked me to be creative :o ) and all informations are fake.
and for the deposit you can deposit any amount on your e-coin account (bitcoin adress) however you can load your Visa card only with 10$ or above which means minimal withrawal from account to card is 10$ . card need to have at least 3$ to verify paypal I guess too.


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: HostFat on September 10, 2015, 12:29:40 PM
Be careful, it seems that Paypal will ask you proof of your documents at the time that you have passed over 2500/3000 $/€ on your account...


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: lorylore on September 10, 2015, 12:30:49 PM
For what comes to all the informations I used Fakenamegenerator.com (since he asked me to be creative :o ) and all informations are fake.
and for the deposit you can deposit any amount on your e-coin account (bitcoin adress) however you can load your Visa card only with 10$ or above which means minimal withrawal from account to card is 10$ . card need to have at least 3$ to verify paypal I guess too.

Hahaha you have really been very creative
A bit surprised that they accepted fakenamegenerator lol
Can you take back the 7$ left in bitcoin or there is still a minimum to get in bitcoin?


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on September 10, 2015, 12:40:53 PM
Be careful, it seems that Paypal will ask you proof of your documents at the time that you have passed over 2500/3000 $/€ on your account...

Hi yes I know , but my paypal account isn't for those large amounts anyway ;D

For what comes to all the informations I used Fakenamegenerator.com (since he asked me to be creative :o ) and all informations are fake.
and for the deposit you can deposit any amount on your e-coin account (bitcoin adress) however you can load your Visa card only with 10$ or above which means minimal withrawal from account to card is 10$ . card need to have at least 3$ to verify paypal I guess too.

Hahaha you have really been very creative
A bit surprised that they accepted fakenamegenerator lol
Can you take back the 7$ left in bitcoin or there is still a minimum to get in bitcoin?

Nop , I told you that the minimum you could load the card with is 10$ means you have to add 10$ from your E-coin balance to your Visa card balance and once they are there you can't withraw them from Visa again , you can make purchases or whatever though . at least this is what I understood


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: lorylore on September 13, 2015, 01:11:36 PM
Be careful, it seems that Paypal will ask you proof of your documents at the time that you have passed over 2500/3000 $/€ on your account...

Hi yes I know , but my paypal account isn't for those large amounts anyway ;D

For what comes to all the informations I used Fakenamegenerator.com (since he asked me to be creative :o ) and all informations are fake.
and for the deposit you can deposit any amount on your e-coin account (bitcoin adress) however you can load your Visa card only with 10$ or above which means minimal withrawal from account to card is 10$ . card need to have at least 3$ to verify paypal I guess too.

Hahaha you have really been very creative
A bit surprised that they accepted fakenamegenerator lol
Can you take back the 7$ left in bitcoin or there is still a minimum to get in bitcoin?

Nop , I told you that the minimum you could load the card with is 10$ means you have to add 10$ from your E-coin balance to your Visa card balance and once they are there you can't withraw them from Visa again , you can make purchases or whatever though . at least this is what I understood

I have seen in their FAQ they they will add this feature soon.
Spend what you need and convert back to bitcoin will be perfect.
Basically it is buying bitcoins with "cash" from the debit card.


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on September 13, 2015, 02:25:37 PM
Be careful, it seems that Paypal will ask you proof of your documents at the time that you have passed over 2500/3000 $/€ on your account...

Hi yes I know , but my paypal account isn't for those large amounts anyway ;D

For what comes to all the informations I used Fakenamegenerator.com (since he asked me to be creative :o ) and all informations are fake.
and for the deposit you can deposit any amount on your e-coin account (bitcoin adress) however you can load your Visa card only with 10$ or above which means minimal withrawal from account to card is 10$ . card need to have at least 3$ to verify paypal I guess too.

Hahaha you have really been very creative
A bit surprised that they accepted fakenamegenerator lol
Can you take back the 7$ left in bitcoin or there is still a minimum to get in bitcoin?

Nop , I told you that the minimum you could load the card with is 10$ means you have to add 10$ from your E-coin balance to your Visa card balance and once they are there you can't withraw them from Visa again , you can make purchases or whatever though . at least this is what I understood

I have seen in their FAQ they they will add this feature soon.
Spend what you need and convert back to bitcoin will be perfect.
Basically it is buying bitcoins with "cash" from the debit card.

THAT WOULD BE definitly nice and now I see why they have 50% growth users in the last weeks ;D , it would be better if you could me link me please :)


Title: Re: e-coin.io users ?
Post by: lorylore on September 13, 2015, 03:56:56 PM
Be careful, it seems that Paypal will ask you proof of your documents at the time that you have passed over 2500/3000 $/€ on your account...

Hi yes I know , but my paypal account isn't for those large amounts anyway ;D

For what comes to all the informations I used Fakenamegenerator.com (since he asked me to be creative :o ) and all informations are fake.
and for the deposit you can deposit any amount on your e-coin account (bitcoin adress) however you can load your Visa card only with 10$ or above which means minimal withrawal from account to card is 10$ . card need to have at least 3$ to verify paypal I guess too.

Hahaha you have really been very creative
A bit surprised that they accepted fakenamegenerator lol
Can you take back the 7$ left in bitcoin or there is still a minimum to get in bitcoin?

Nop , I told you that the minimum you could load the card with is 10$ means you have to add 10$ from your E-coin balance to your Visa card balance and once they are there you can't withraw them from Visa again , you can make purchases or whatever though . at least this is what I understood

I have seen in their FAQ they they will add this feature soon.
Spend what you need and convert back to bitcoin will be perfect.
Basically it is buying bitcoins with "cash" from the debit card.

THAT WOULD BE definitly nice and now I see why they have 50% growth users in the last weeks ;D , it would be better if you could me link me please :)

I entered in their promo and i hope to win.
That should be done, what if i want to take back the bitcoin and don't want anymore the cash in the card?
As this feature will be added soon i will notify you, as i am checking every day ;)