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Title: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Neotox on September 09, 2015, 02:25:32 PM I have a question in mind that I want to ask
How we can check if someone added me to their default trust list? is it possible to check and if yes then how I know we can check the users who are in trust list of depth1 users but is there a way to check if we can check for ourself, how many users added us to their trust list I want to see if someone added me to their list 8) Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: tspacepilot on September 09, 2015, 02:51:14 PM There may be other ways to do it, but the easiest one I know about is to look at your trust settings page and add the person you're curious about to your trust list. Then refresh the page and click "hierarchichal view" down at the bottom of the page. After that, each person in your trust list's appears with their trust list indented below their name, if you're in their trust list, you'll find yourself there.
Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: deadley on September 09, 2015, 02:54:34 PM Click Trust then trust setting then scroll down and Hierarchical view. You will see who added whom. see manually by checking if your name appear there. Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Neotox on September 09, 2015, 02:57:28 PM There may be other ways to do it, but the easiest one I know about is to look at your trust settings page and add the person you're curious about to your trust list. Then refresh the page and click "hierarchichal view" down at the bottom of the page. After that, each person in your trust list's appears with their trust list indented below their name, if you're in their trust list, you'll find yourself there. I want to know who added me to their list, if I already know someone who added me to their list then why I would ask themThe question is how to check who added me to their trust list? Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Neotox on September 09, 2015, 02:59:40 PM Click Trust then trust setting then scroll down and Hierarchical view. see manually by checking if your name appear there.You will see who added whom. I want to know any user added me to their trust list (not from default trust users because when they add us we already know this,and I am sure they won't me add ) so I am asking how to check if some non default trust users added me to their list Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: deadley on September 09, 2015, 03:07:22 PM Click Trust then trust setting then scroll down and Hierarchical view. see manually by checking if your name appear there.You will see who added whom. I want to know any user added me to their trust list (not from default trust users because when they add us we already know this,and I am sure they won't me add ) so I am asking how to check if some non default trust users added me to their list I think then you must increase your depth level to 4 then see till that level someone added you or not but it's too much pain to see like that. Trust list will increase too much. P.S. try to find through ctrl+F Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Neotox on September 09, 2015, 03:11:41 PM Click Trust then trust setting then scroll down and Hierarchical view. see manually by checking if your name appear there.You will see who added whom. I want to know any user added me to their trust list (not from default trust users because when they add us we already know this,and I am sure they won't me add ) so I am asking how to check if some non default trust users added me to their list I think then you must increase your depth level to 4 then see till that level someone added you or not but it's too much pain to see like that. Trust list will increase too much. P.S. try to find through ctrl+F I asked How to check if from ~537247 total users of this forum, anyone added me to their trust list then, How to find that if someone did and who? Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: tspacepilot on September 09, 2015, 03:20:17 PM Click Trust then trust setting then scroll down and Hierarchical view. see manually by checking if your name appear there.You will see who added whom. I want to know any user added me to their trust list (not from default trust users because when they add us we already know this,and I am sure they won't me add ) so I am asking how to check if some non default trust users added me to their list I think then you must increase your depth level to 4 then see till that level someone added you or not but it's too much pain to see like that. Trust list will increase too much. P.S. try to find through ctrl+F I asked How to check if from ~537247 total users of this forum, anyone added me to their trust list then, How to find that if someone did and who? At one point, theymos produced a large graph file of the trust network, I don't think there's any public tool to try to do that (but I could be wrong). To see if you're on anyone's trust list anywhere it seems like you'd need to export the whole graph somehow. Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Neotox on September 09, 2015, 03:24:20 PM At one point, theymos produced a large graph file of the trust network, I don't think there's any public tool to try to do that (but I could be wrong). To see if you're on anyone's trust list anywhere it seems like you'd need to export the whole graph somehow. cool, thanks, I hope theymos,badbear or any moderator will answer this lets wait for their response Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: --Encrypted-- on September 09, 2015, 03:31:09 PM I don't think there's an "official" way to do that.
try making an alt and add every users ranked newbie and up in its trust list. that might work. make sure you set the depth setting to depth 1 or it'll take a looooooong time to load. Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Neotox on September 09, 2015, 03:33:30 PM I don't think there's an "official" way to do that. Adding over 500K users to trust list, I will die for sure before I know if someone added me to their trust list if I used this methodtry making an alt and add every users ranked newbie and up in its trust list. that might work. make sure you set the depth setting to depth 1 or it'll take a looooooong time to load. I am sure there is an easy way to find, I want to know about that Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Lauda on September 09, 2015, 03:47:23 PM This is really simple:
Step 1) Go to the trust settings (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust) Step 2) Scroll down and click Hierarchical view Step 3) Ctrl+F and enter your username (Neotox in this case) Make sure to enter depth 4 else you probably aren't going to see your name often (if at all). Also it is worth nothing that what you see might change according to your own list. Beyond this point is pretty pointless though, the question is why? Ask dogie for help. Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: --Encrypted-- on September 09, 2015, 03:50:36 PM This is really simple, I'm not sure how you guys are not aware of this: Step 1) Go to the trust settings (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust) Step 2) Scroll down and click Hierarchical view Step 3) Ctrl+F and enter your username (Neotox in this case) Make sure to enter depth 4 else you probably aren't going to see your name often (if at all). Also it is worth nothing that what you see might change according to your own list. he wanted to know every user that added him to their trust list. not only people from the depth 3. @neotox actually there's only about 250K of non brand new members. and about 70% of them are newbies. but yeah, it's still a lot of work if you don't have some kind of a bot. Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: whywefight on September 09, 2015, 03:59:02 PM Setting DT with a depth of 4 gives you (or in this case me) 31883 Lines. Found my self exactly one time. if you remove duplicates from this list you will end up with 2889 Lines. This means 2889 people are trusted somehow by the DT with a depth of 4. Well, i know that wasnt the question...
You need a relation of active users in past 12 month to those 2889 lines, i think. EDIT: my list includes excluded ppl, cause i was lazy Here is the Default Trust Visualisation [Picture Heavy] [3rd June] -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1062052.0 Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Neotox on September 10, 2015, 05:11:41 PM So no one know the answer of this including staff and admin?
if it is possible then how and if not then tell me its not possible Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: EcuaMobi on September 10, 2015, 05:13:58 PM So no one know the answer of this including staff and admin? if it is possible then how and if not then tell me its not possible I'm pretty sure it's not possible. I've explored the trust settings and profile a lot and I've never found anything like that. That would be pretty cool. Almost certainly you can only see the trust tree up to the 4th level from either default trust or your custom list. Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: tspacepilot on September 10, 2015, 05:21:38 PM I'm pretty sure it's not possible. I've explored the trust settings and profile a lot and I've never found anything like that. That would be pretty cool. Almost certainly you can only see the trust tree up to the 4th level from either default trust or your custom list. It's not a tree, it's not even a DAG. It's a graph with many cycles. I think you could reconstruct the graph, by putting different users into the trust box and using "hierarchical view" then writing down the links. Obviously this would be incredibly time consuming. I wonder if Theymos could tell us about how he exported the trust graph earlier and if/whether that would be an easy function to make public. I really enjoyed seeing the graph and the visualizations that people made of it. Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: theymos on September 10, 2015, 10:30:30 PM https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz
I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown. Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Mitchell on September 10, 2015, 10:38:19 PM https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz Oh yeah, totally forgot about that.I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Also, damn, a lot of people have me on their trust list (~ = excluded): Quote haploid23, Maidak, BadBear, PsychoticBoy, TheButterZone, mnightwaffle, dobetter, Welsh, mrbrt, dogie, ~shitaifan2013, dnaleor, MikeMike, Gws24, LaudaM, TookDk, goose20, siameze, EAL, aksplace, hedgy73, Jansen27, shorena, CyberRat, merakicoin, jodybay, Muhammed Zakir, CJBianco, ~QuickSeller, mmsen, Berau, fvs114, digicoinuser, Dorrittulx Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: theymos on September 10, 2015, 10:51:59 PM Oh yeah, totally forgot about that. I just set this up. :) Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Mitchell on September 10, 2015, 10:55:26 PM Oh yeah, totally forgot about that. I just set this up. :) EDIT: I just found your post and it seems that it was a one-time thing. I was wrong, my bad! Here's the complete trust network if you want to make a larger graph: https://bitcointalk.org/trust20150516.txt.xz -> is "trusts", -/> is "distrusts". Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: EcuaMobi on September 10, 2015, 11:13:13 PM https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown. This is great! :) I mean probably it's not *really* useful but it's definitely cool! I hope soon somebody will come up with a tool to grab that information and generate graphs, interactive trees and more. Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: tspacepilot on September 12, 2015, 05:56:19 PM This is great! :) I mean probably it's not *really* useful but it's definitely cool! I hope soon somebody will come up with a tool to grab that information and generate graphs, interactive trees and more. Here's a start, this script downloads and upacks the source, removes the exclusion nodes (for now), encapsulates the node list in a simple digraph format that should be drawable by graphviz, and calls circo on it. Code: #!/bin/bash Code: # remove exclusions Name the first codeblock whatever you want and make it executable, name the second codeblock 'trust.sed' and put it in the same dir as the first codeblock. Execute. (assumes you have wget, unxz, and graphiviz installed and on your $PATH). The problem for me is that I use terrible, low-end hardware, the graphviz executable "circo" is still running after 10 minutes. I don't know how long it will take so who knows, maybe there are issues. I can post again if this works or doesn't work but I just thought I'd reply to ecua about automatically downloading and drawing---it's a start. EDIT: circo is slow for large graphs! I changed the executable to twopi, but still playing around with it. Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: shorena on September 12, 2015, 06:12:30 PM Sweet. A simple grep <username> for Neotox:
Code: defcon23->Neotox and for EcuaMobi: Code: Soros Shorts-/>EcuaMobi Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: tspacepilot on September 12, 2015, 06:41:27 PM Still needs some help, but here's a first image (generated with just a single command using the script above, somewhat modified):
https://i.imgur.com/PwdKhiM.jpg Clearly it's kinda a total mess so you'd need to tweak the parameters to graphviz, nonetheless, I thought the script to download and draw was worth posting. This version of "showtrust.sh" works at least for that (and while twopi clearly didn't do a great job laying out the text here, it did draw in under a minute using my low-powered, 3 year old laptop. Code: #!/bin/bash Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Neotox on September 13, 2015, 04:53:03 AM Sweet. A simple grep <username> for Neotox: thanks for sharing, but can you tell me where you found this info?Code: defcon23->Neotox using the link https://bitcointalk.org/trust20150516.txt.xz I can't find my username in this file, so want to know where and how you got this info Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: tspacepilot on September 13, 2015, 05:18:26 AM Sweet. A simple grep <username> for Neotox: thanks for sharing, but can you tell me where you found this info?Code: defcon23->Neotox using the link https://bitcointalk.org/trust20150516.txt.xz I can't find my username in this file, so want to know where and how you got this info I downloaded https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz and I find you in there just like Shorena, using grep: Code: tsp@computer:~/trustgraph$ cat trust.txt | grep "Neotox" The trust.txt.xz without a timestamp in the filename has a file datestamp of 11 Sep. Code: -rw-r--r-- 1 tsp tsp 64K Sep 11 19:52 trust.txt.xz The one you refer to seems to have the date 16 May in the filename so I think it's an old one. Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Neotox on September 13, 2015, 10:24:36 AM Sweet. A simple grep <username> for Neotox: thanks for sharing, but can you tell me where you found this info?Code: defcon23->Neotox using the link https://bitcointalk.org/trust20150516.txt.xz I can't find my username in this file, so want to know where and how you got this info I downloaded https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz and I find you in there just like Shorena, using grep: Code: tsp@computer:~/trustgraph$ cat trust.txt | grep "Neotox" The trust.txt.xz without a timestamp in the filename has a file datestamp of 11 Sep. Code: -rw-r--r-- 1 tsp tsp 64K Sep 11 19:52 trust.txt.xz The one you refer to seems to have the date 16 May in the filename so I think it's an old one. thanks for sharing the link of new trust file ,I was using old file Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Mitchell on September 13, 2015, 10:30:32 AM Neotox you must have missed this post. ;)
https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown. Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Neotox on September 13, 2015, 02:17:38 PM Neotox you must have missed this post. ;) Oh sorry brohttps://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown. yes I missed that and I was using link from first post of this second page but missed your post on first page where you shared the current trust file thanks a lot everyone for helping, this is why I love this community, we help each others like family members Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: dogie on September 14, 2015, 11:27:04 AM https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown. *Fires up the Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: zazarb on September 19, 2015, 01:42:55 PM Neotox you must have missed this post. ;) If this list updated every Saturday, where it could be found? link above refers only Downloads Old.https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown. regards -zz Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: tspacepilot on September 19, 2015, 05:03:12 PM Neotox you must have missed this post. ;) If this list updated every Saturday, where it could be found? link above refers only Downloads Old.https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown. regards -zz What I understand is that https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz will be the latest. You don't find that that's the case? Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Neotox on September 19, 2015, 05:19:21 PM Neotox you must have missed this post. ;) If this list updated every Saturday, where it could be found? link above refers only Downloads Old.https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown. regards -zz Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: zazarb on September 19, 2015, 06:16:13 PM I checked and I can confirm you right, me has misled previous one were with date stamp.
thanks Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: shorena on November 02, 2015, 07:32:09 AM I will just leave this here, might be useful for others as well.
Code: #!/bin/bash Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Timelord2067 on January 10, 2016, 10:35:59 AM Years ago Facebook (yeh, I said the "F" word...) has/had a program where everyone's name was placed around a circle (the name was radiating out like spokes on a wheel with a clear empty section in the middle) and a line was drawn from every person to every other person they are friends with using your own circle of friends as the names to create the circle with.
Much earlier than that I saw on a program like 60 Minutes (might have even *been* 60 mins) where Law Enforcement developed something similar - all names were feed into the data base and it showed all the connections of the people eg some results would be two crescents facing each other - each crescent linked names between itself while only one or two threads crossed from one crescent to the other. (the links from one to the other were who they targeted...) It's the same thing that the graph on this page is trying to draw. Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: dogie on January 10, 2016, 03:09:55 PM Years ago Facebook (yeh, I said the "F" word...) has/had a program where everyone's name was placed around a circle (the name was radiating out like spokes on a wheel with a clear empty section in the middle) and a line was drawn from every person to every other person they are friends with using your own circle of friends as the names to create the circle with. Much earlier than that I saw on a program like 60 Minutes (might have even *been* 60 mins) where Law Enforcement developed something similar - all names were feed into the data base and it showed all the connections of the people eg some results would be two crescents facing each other - each crescent linked names between itself while only one or two threads crossed from one crescent to the other. (the links from one to the other were who they targeted...) It's the same thing that the graph on this page is trying to draw. I have absolutely no idea what your 2 month necro post was trying to say. Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: Timelord2067 on January 10, 2016, 09:52:45 PM [quote author=dogie link=topic=1175364.msg13506228#msg13506228 date=1452438595]
[quote author=Timelord2067 link=topic=1175364.msg13504101#msg13504101 date=1452422159] Years ago Facebook (yeh, I said the "F" word...) has/had a program where everyone's name was placed around a circle (the name was radiating out like spokes on a wheel with a clear empty section in the middle) and a line was drawn from every person to every other person they are friends with using your own circle of friends as the names to create the circle with. Much earlier than that I saw on a program like 60 Minutes (might have even *been* 60 mins) where Law Enforcement developed something similar - all names were feed into the data base and it showed all the connections of the people eg some results would be two crescents facing each other - each crescent linked names between itself while only one or two threads crossed from one crescent to the other. (the links from one to the other were who they targeted...) It's the same thing that the graph on this page is trying to draw. [/quote] I have absolutely no idea what your 2 month necro post was trying to say. [/quote] Sorry about that - I meant to cut and paste this graph which was the point of my post. [quote author=tspacepilot link=topic=1175364.msg12402016#msg12402016 date=1442083287] Still needs some help, but here's a first image (generated with just a single command using the script above, somewhat modified): https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/17/blobb9705ad4a1171522.jpeg [/quote] Title: Re: How to check If someone added me to their default trust list? Post by: tspacepilot on January 11, 2016, 06:35:16 PM So, I made that graph using LaTeX and the PSTricks package. It's pretty damn ugly, dogie's graphs are enormously more useful. But anyway, LaTeX and PSTricks (psmatrix, psnode) if you were curious.
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