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Title: Comcast rolling out higher charge for home internet users
Post by: bocobit on September 09, 2015, 09:47:03 PM
Bitcoin user not affected?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/comcast-rolling-out-higher-charge-for-some-home-internet-users/ar-AAe6cyC (http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/comcast-rolling-out-higher-charge-for-some-home-internet-users/ar-AAe6cyC)


Title: Re: Comcast rolling out higher charge for home internet users
Post by: Za1n on September 09, 2015, 10:15:10 PM
Bitcoin user not affected?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/comcast-rolling-out-higher-charge-for-some-home-internet-users/ar-AAe6cyC (http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/comcast-rolling-out-higher-charge-for-some-home-internet-users/ar-AAe6cyC)

It looks like they are giving a 300 GB monthly allowance before the extra charges kick in. Since only the initial download of the bitcoin block-chain requires a ~50 GB download, I don't think this will impact Bitcoin users too much. The month to month additions to the block-chain only amount to around 1-2 GB a month, so this will only be a small fraction of the monthly allowance.

The quote at the end of the article probably sums it up best:
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“And to put this all in perspective, our national median customer data use is 40 GB per month and 92 percent of our customers don’t consume more than 300 GB of data in a month.”

It seems like this will be a non-issue for most people, and even for those consuming more than 300 GB, it will only cost them an extra $10-$30/month.


Title: Re: Comcast rolling out higher charge for home internet users
Post by: unamis76 on September 09, 2015, 10:46:02 PM
Bitcoin user not affected because this has nothing to do with Bitcoin, even if you pay your fees in Bitcoin :D As for node running... It might impact you if you do heavy usage and you node is well connected.

As for the plans themselves... We all knows that unlimited plans aren't unlimited for the most part. This is just an operator taking an extra advantage of limited "unlimited" plans...


Title: Re: Comcast rolling out higher charge for home internet users
Post by: Soros Shorts on September 09, 2015, 10:53:10 PM
I have a well connected node with about 70-150 connections that serves around 600150GB of data a month outgoing. I don't run it at home though but in a datacenter.

For some reason my home node on Verizon FIOS only gets 30 connections max. I think it uses around 15GB/month. Verizon is unlimited for now so caps are not a problem at this time.

Edit: A few months ago my node was only sending out 150GB/month of data. I just checked and the last month it sent out 600GB of data. It must be getting popular with SPV clients ;D.


Title: Re: Comcast rolling out higher charge for home internet users
Post by: Undermood on September 10, 2015, 07:42:16 AM
As a normal bitcoin users, I don't think it has any impact on us. Comcast just want to charge us more.


Title: Re: Comcast rolling out higher charge for home internet users
Post by: Nexious on September 10, 2015, 07:45:22 AM
If you are running a full node with more than stock connections (i.e more than 8) you may run into high bandwidth issues.

Unless you are downloading large amounts of data outside of Bitcoin I would not see this as an issue.


Title: Re: Comcast rolling out higher charge for home internet users
Post by: randy8777 on September 10, 2015, 09:20:47 AM
Bitcoin user not affected?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/comcast-rolling-out-higher-charge-for-some-home-internet-users/ar-AAe6cyC (http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/comcast-rolling-out-higher-charge-for-some-home-internet-users/ar-AAe6cyC)

It looks like they are giving a 300 GB monthly allowance before the extra charges kick in. Since only the initial download of the bitcoin block-chain requires a ~50 GB download, I don't think this will impact Bitcoin users too much. The month to month additions to the block-chain only amount to around 1-2 GB a month, so this will only be a small fraction of the monthly allowance.

The quote at the end of the article probably sums it up best:
Quote
“And to put this all in perspective, our national median customer data use is 40 GB per month and 92 percent of our customers don’t consume more than 300 GB of data in a month.”

It seems like this will be a non-issue for most people, and even for those consuming more than 300 GB, it will only cost them an extra $10-$30/month.


only cost them $10-$30 extra? that's a lot considering home internet connections on average cost around $30-$40. 300gb per month is really nothing.


Title: Re: Comcast rolling out higher charge for home internet users
Post by: Za1n on September 10, 2015, 10:57:08 PM
Bitcoin user not affected?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/comcast-rolling-out-higher-charge-for-some-home-internet-users/ar-AAe6cyC (http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/comcast-rolling-out-higher-charge-for-some-home-internet-users/ar-AAe6cyC)

It looks like they are giving a 300 GB monthly allowance before the extra charges kick in. Since only the initial download of the bitcoin block-chain requires a ~50 GB download, I don't think this will impact Bitcoin users too much. The month to month additions to the block-chain only amount to around 1-2 GB a month, so this will only be a small fraction of the monthly allowance.

The quote at the end of the article probably sums it up best:
Quote
“And to put this all in perspective, our national median customer data use is 40 GB per month and 92 percent of our customers don’t consume more than 300 GB of data in a month.”

It seems like this will be a non-issue for most people, and even for those consuming more than 300 GB, it will only cost them an extra $10-$30/month.


only cost them $10-$30 extra? that's a lot considering home internet connections on average cost around $30-$40. 300gb per month is really nothing.

Well if 92% of their customers are using less than 300 GB per month, yes I say "only $10-$30 extra" for the 8% of their customers using all the bandwidth. Why should normal customers subsidize the 8% who are using all the data?


Title: Re: Comcast rolling out higher charge for home internet users
Post by: Pathi on September 10, 2015, 10:59:12 PM
I have actually gone over 300 gb twice. They give you 3 chances before they start charging the fee. We cut down on Netflix,hulu etc and it solved the issue.


Title: Re: Comcast rolling out higher charge for home internet users
Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 11, 2015, 12:55:43 AM
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Dear Bruno,

Consider this your second warning with only one left. You're once again over your 300GB limit. Either cut down on your Google-fuuing or stop visiting goat porn. Your call!

Thanks,

Comcast.

Fuck me! That's a tough call. I wonder since hamsters are smaller, would I be using less bandwidth replacing said in lieu of goats.

Comcast: How may I help you today?
Bruno: Would I be using less bandwidth if I visited hamster porn oppose to goat porn?
Comcast: Actually, the bandwidth would be the same.
Bruno: You sound like an expert. What goat porn channels do you frequent?


Title: Re: Comcast rolling out higher charge for home internet users
Post by: randy8777 on September 11, 2015, 02:42:14 AM
Bitcoin user not affected?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/comcast-rolling-out-higher-charge-for-some-home-internet-users/ar-AAe6cyC (http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/comcast-rolling-out-higher-charge-for-some-home-internet-users/ar-AAe6cyC)

It looks like they are giving a 300 GB monthly allowance before the extra charges kick in. Since only the initial download of the bitcoin block-chain requires a ~50 GB download, I don't think this will impact Bitcoin users too much. The month to month additions to the block-chain only amount to around 1-2 GB a month, so this will only be a small fraction of the monthly allowance.

The quote at the end of the article probably sums it up best:
Quote
“And to put this all in perspective, our national median customer data use is 40 GB per month and 92 percent of our customers don’t consume more than 300 GB of data in a month.”

It seems like this will be a non-issue for most people, and even for those consuming more than 300 GB, it will only cost them an extra $10-$30/month.


only cost them $10-$30 extra? that's a lot considering home internet connections on average cost around $30-$40. 300gb per month is really nothing.

Well if 92% of their customers are using less than 300 GB per month, yes I say "only $10-$30 extra" for the 8% of their customers using all the bandwidth. Why should normal customers subsidize the 8% who are using all the data?

at that point you're right, it's not worth letting 92% of the custommers take a hit. it's sad to see that there are still limits on internet usage in 2015  :-\


Title: Re: Comcast rolling out higher charge for home internet users
Post by: RGBKey on September 11, 2015, 02:45:56 AM
Fuck comcast. Seriously. All of their monopolistic bullshit has to be put to an end sometime or the internet can never grow.


Title: Re: Comcast rolling out higher charge for home internet users
Post by: gogxmagog on September 11, 2015, 05:07:35 AM
Fuck comcast. Seriously. All of their monopolistic bullshit has to be put to an end sometime or the internet can never grow.

im not in the USA, but srsly... comcast has the WORST reputation of any ISP out there. They are known worldwide for it.

are there regions in the states where they are the only option? otherwise i cant see why anyone would use them.


Title: Re: Comcast rolling out higher charge for home internet users
Post by: Kakmakr on September 11, 2015, 06:28:24 AM
In my country the average fixed dataline cap = 50GB So this means that most people will lose their whole months data cap for just the first download of the Blockchain. It effectively keep some countries out of the game, with the guys in the big leagues.

I am one of the fortunate people with a uncapped account, but some throttling kicks in at about 300Gb. I have to pay premium fees for this service, because it's at the top end of the bandwidth option available here.  :o