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Does anyone know this people selling ASIC hardware?
Its for real?
http://bitcoinhardware.miiduu.com/

ASIC 1.5Terahash
Product sku: sku_3 Availability: 1
Price: $29,899.00

ASIC 60Ghash
Product sku: sku_2 Availability: 1
Price: $1,299.00

ASIC 4.5Ghash
Product sku: sku_1 Availability: 1
Price: $149.00

Looks like they just copied BFL product pricing.
Can't google map their address.
Telephone number is "Your Telephone Number"

From the about us:

We selling, repairing and do consulting in IT segment, computers, printers....

Our location is in Europe - Slovenia

drPC, Aljosa Sumenjak s.p.
Premrlova 1
6310 Izola
Slovenia

This was to be expected. BFL selected the cheapest foundry to make their ASICs. So their design was stolen by rogue employees, or even the unscrupulous company itself, and clone chips are now going to be manufactured, and sold on the grey market.

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Could be, if the logo is a moth :P

That site reeks of fraudulent activity, please be very careful and do not let greed get your money taken.  

I am really not sure you should buy "Even more hasharete with this ASIC!  60Ghash",  can we even use hasharete for Bitcoin anyway? ;) ;) ;D

I am just curious what that pic is of anyway. Any image searchers here?


EDIT: I found it here: http://www.crevinn.com/ipdevelop.php

and here: http://www.asice.com/DesignServices.htm

Thas what they answered:

I get some good connection for lower fees importing from USA. I'm working with BFL.
I'm optimistic, so I think in 2-3 weeks they will start shipping.
I'm trying to make a 2 line for orders.
Also I'm waiting the total shipping cost to add on the site.
And another thing. I'm not getting any profit from any product. That's my good mood to promote BFL products.

Everything will be tracked (shipping,..) so no SCAM from me. I'm just BTC and other cryptocoin user
It's up to you choose where to buy.

Regards
Aljosa

Did a reverse image search and found this
http://www.crevinn.com/services.php
I am not sure if these two are related

This is even better :

Everything is possbile with BFL, I know well the team.

Regards

:D

Beside hardware there is also "Firmware" so you can't just nick the ASIC design and expect it to work.

Looks shady as hell to me,

I would love to hear BFL's response as to their connection to this guy



Personally I think the guy is full of crap, trying to get your money to vanish into Slovania, never to be heard from again ;)

Well, it isn't completely unheard of to import stuff, but I can't really see why BFL or others would be willing at this point to resell anything as everything is ripped of their hands before they can even spell ASIC. Other thing, I would not buy anything from a seller who doesn't even want to pay expenses of designing or hosting their site. I do not think its a scam per say, but very amateurish attempt. I wouldn't trust this guy to hold my beer, let alone $1300.

He's probably just attempting to resell in Europe. The only question, as underlined by the others, is which sort of relationship does he have with BFL.

Site reached its daily limit ;)  ??? ??? ???

If true, where's the import tax, did he get a big rebate? Slovenia is part of the EU, so it would save $300 tax/custom fees at least getting one Single SC ($1387 incl. ship USA to EU) from there. So probably not real?

It smells to scam :D, why would have BFL a reseller?

BFL is known enough in this little worldwide market, people buy directly to they, have a waiting list and clients preorder and pay months before. They don't need a distribution net wich to pay commissions.

Maybe in other states of market but not in this.

Would have BTCFPGA.com a reseller? Selling at same price than you. IF the answer is yes I want to be your reseller.

Regards

What kind of mickey-mouse webhosting are they using that would lead to that?

(Not that I'm expecting this site to in any way be legit...if anything, this is another point against them.)

Has anyone asked BFL for comment?

How do you guys find these shoddy sites? And why would BFL be related to him anyways? Because he decided to copy the prices from the BFL site and/or replied he's working with them?

Looks kinda dodgy, and on an unrelated matter, some douche swiped my netbook on a train in Slovenia once. I guess I was silly to look away from it, even for a minute or ten (distracted by friendly US tourists, LOL).

You can post a inquiry here.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/forum.php

This may fool complete bitcoin noobs that are shopping for BFL products.

I asked a friend (who I just visited in September, he lives near Izola but knows it very well due to work) to check him out:


So unless he can show the pre-order from BFL with an order number < 500, I would not on count on getting equipment from him in a reasonable timeframe

I have a question:
Did I ever scam anyone here from the forum?
I get better prices for shipping from USA, but I'm still searching for better. Also multiple shipping reduce costs. And difference between port of Koper or port of Trieste is big.
So Is why I have decided to put the site on. Not even want to scam anyone! Why this thinking?

And If someone want order from me, no problem, he/she will get all tracking numbers, total shipping cost and all fees.
If the person is located in Italy, Austria, Hungary, Germany I can bring free of cost the machine to proove that I'm not going to scam anyone.

And finally why I would like to scam someone, I don't have any interest.

So even that is a subdomain on miiduu - for now, I'm not going to scam any person.

I just get e message from a friend that there is a discussion about me.

And the company is still alive.

Happy mining to all

Not yet ;-)


What about VAT?
How about quoting your prices in EUR?

We are not saying you intend to scam, it's just you are a bit over optimistic on your capability to deliver the product
on time.

Let's say I order a 60 GHash unit, to be shipped to Izola. What is the final price? What is the estimated delivery date? Do you agree on cash on delivery? Or do you want to sit on money for 3 months until you can deliver?

SolarSilver
I know who are you talking about.
And I know some reasons why He is like that.

And you know how is if someone is talking like that without your presence!

I'm still collecting prices -> but hopefully to not find any person here that knows what are BTC, Otherwise no business.

I'm not wat to SCAM any.

Look if I start one business here, I will order some SC.

I will see if I can get a small investment.

Looks super shady, 99.99% chance it is a scam. BFL has a branded image and is currently on top of the world... and they are going to allow a mirror site run by some shady nobody to resell their products? Seriously doubt it. Although, there will certainly be some extremely dramatic threads involving BFL at some point in the next year... so who the hell knows.

You will order? Maybe you want to make a fair bussines, you don't want to scam, but have you talked at least with BFL?, how can you give the same prices? dude, back to real world .

scam

Scam scamity scam ... or to quote electricmucus "Scams, scams everywhere!"

I think something got lost in the translation.

And yeah, unless BFL publicly endorses you as a re-seller, no-one's going to take you seriously.

Replace the word spam with scam from this video and you have an idea:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

These east scum.

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My 1.5TH unit from them just arrived!

Only problem is it's just an uncut wafer....

Did it look anything like this?

http://www.clima.net.cn/Files/dengcong/confectionery/Wafer.jpg

Yeah, but uncut.

I'm not sure what a jewish wafer looks like.

everything is said, i guess. But its not hard to tell this miiduu thing is pure bullshit. Hope you die in a fire

What are you talking about, you can see that this one was schnipt, it's just too bad the Mohel slipped!

Lets look at the facts

* Site images look shit.
http://m1.miiduu.com/store1/17011/image/data/Logo-Template---Logo_bitcoin-626x337.png (http://m1.miiduu.com/store1/17011/image/data/Logo-Template---Logo_bitcoin-626x337.png)
Very old modify date...

* Using a free/hosted shop solution miiduu.com (http://miiduu.com). Does anyone really think someone selling items for $25,000 would use a free/hosted shop site?

* Address??
Same as
http://www.eurohandball.com/tournaments/000473 (http://www.eurohandball.com/tournaments/000473)

Fake, scam crap...

Moving on....
http://i.imgflip.com/is8.jpg

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Is there worldwide always only one office in bigger places?
I think like in the street I have the office, where there are about 6-7 offices (bigger house) there are everywhere more than 100 or even more offices.

I will take the picture of the entrance and there are more tables.

I still didn't get any notice that I have scam someone and I will not get any.

Free or paid domains is the same.

So people if you don't have any proof don't tell lays.

although my native language isn't english, i do understand everything people usually say. But this guy - can anyone tell me what he was trying to say?

You are correct in that statement that it is unreadable

Show me the pictures then :)
 * Your office
 * The products you are selling

Looking forward to a reply in english

I can assure you that it's a scam with 100% confidence.  This person/company has no relation with BFL in any way, shape or form.

Roma locuta causa finita.

This is exactly what I would expect you to state if you were the one who put up that page. Seriously, I have to agree with Josh that this is a scam.

~Bruno K~

In a total reversal of what I'm usually doing, I opt to believe Josh on this one.

Not to imply it isn't a scam, but someone does not need BFL's permission to resell their products. Most countries have a "doctrine of first sale" that basically allows reselling without permission. There is a possibility they've worked out some import tax discount and just aren't good with websites or the English language. But again, it's probably likely this is a scam anyway.

The poster claimed they are/were "working with BFL" which is false, so that's what I was basing my statement off of.  Sure, they could buy the stuff from us and resell it, but they'd be effectively doing it at a loss since they are not getting any sort of discount from us.  I'm not sure why anyone would  resell our products at a loss, so it's got to be scam. :)

So.. are you saying BFL offers wholesale discounts? :D

1000000% SCAM!

edit: oh shoot.  I didn't realize the domain itself was a store hosting thing.  so the 2nd level domain is good, but it's like a hosting thing.

well I know bitcoin.miiduu.com is a scam.  

looks like m1.miiduu.com is gone now? ah, it was bitcoinhardware.miiduu.com...  regardless, it was/is a scam, too.

Are viewers being tracked for some reason? What else is being gleaned when this site is viewed?

Isn't that just typical google analytics?

Just realized it's for miiduu.com and not a self-hosted domain.

Yes that is standard Goole stuff

looks like maybe a legit site was hacked; to try to scam people to buy bitcoin hardware