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Title: A Regulated Stock Exchange
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on October 11, 2012, 10:00:50 PM
There's lots of scammers and legal problems with starting a SE on BTC. But why shouldn't there be a regulated stock exchange? We could call it ARSE. It'll be reported to the SEC and security issuers will have liability.

Advantages:
- No legal problems like GLBSE
- Safer due to regulation and legal liabilities
- Better security, real company behind it

Would anyone want ARSE?


Title: Re: A Regulated Stock Exchange
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on October 11, 2012, 10:06:51 PM
Current US securities law makes it prohibitively expensive.  Registering a security has costs in the hundreds of thousands of dollars (note that isn't the offering that is the additional cost), requires a 42 page filing with the SEC, hundreds of hours of due diligence and legal fees.  So it really only makes sense when raising tens of millions in equity.  


http://www.cringely.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2012-09-04-at-12.24.31-PM.png
What is wrong with this chart?  Is small biz is the growth engine for job creation what do you think the net result of inability to raise "small" ($1M to $10M) amounts of capital would be on a major economy?

There are "Reg D" exceptions but they generally require shares to be untradable for 12-24 months and require significant fees to get the restriction removed.

So while you could in theory open a bitcoin based brokerage it isn't going to be useful for anything a small biz would need.  Even raising $10M in equity is prohibitive under the the current regulatory system, and $1M defacto impossible, so forget about $100K or $10K GLBSE IPOs.   The jobs act (crowdfunding rules) will make it EASIER to RAISE equity but the restrictions on trading are unlikely to be removed.

Maybe offshore ...  


Title: Re: A Regulated Stock Exchange
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on October 11, 2012, 10:20:27 PM
Okay, the regulatory costs makes it impossible basically. But I've got a few other ideas:

Kickstarter-like - back projects without actually owning the company, but you get rewards which might be a share of the profits. Can fund new BTC ventures

Decentralized trading: A site that uses cryptography to verify the ownership of items. People can then trade them on IRC, forums, etc. Offerbook so you can easily find a buyer / seller.

Just throwing out ideas for bitcoin..


Title: Re: A Regulated Stock Exchange
Post by: killerstorm on October 12, 2012, 07:11:36 AM
Kickstarter-like - back projects without actually owning the company, but you get rewards which might be a share of the profits. Can fund new BTC ventures

Several such projects already exist. They aren't very active, though. I guess the problem lies in trust, or lack of thereof.

Basically, organizer needs to be really serious about it, and he needs to find some serious projects.

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Decentralized trading: A site that uses cryptography to verify the ownership of items. People can then trade them on IRC, forums, etc. Offerbook so you can easily find a buyer / seller.

This can be done using smart property/colored coins. There is no need for a site as ownership can be securely identified by client software.

A web site could, perhaps, act as a directory, i.e. a place where people can find information on particular property/coins.