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Title: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: BitcoinSurveyDude on September 14, 2015, 01:03:21 PM
Link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1NUaNjk6MnHtDJKPwPvpFFKtQ3nhVkSkZhCp4bUM54j0/viewform?usp=send_form

I'm a nonpartisan observer with an interest in studying schisms within groups, and in understanding what similarities and differences exist between between the disagreeing individuals. Assuming I receive enough responses for analysis, I'll present my results on reddit and bitcointalk.

Where it says "reddit/bitcointalk username" put bitcointalk username instead, and where it says PM you can send me a message here or just reply in this thread.

In the published results your username will not be linked with your data.


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: lorylore on September 14, 2015, 01:07:36 PM
Just finished the survey took less than a minute.
You are here in bitcointalk and not reddit to require username :)
Why did you put this "What is 7+3? *Give your answer in numerals" when it doesn't change even when we refresh, this doesn't stop bots :)


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: BitcoinSurveyDude on September 14, 2015, 01:12:53 PM
Thanks for responding!  :)

Yeah, I used the same form as on reddit, but I figured people could just substitute in BitcoinTalk username instead and it wouldn't cause too much confusion.

Yeah, it doesn't stop bots but the person who helped me design the form (and who does the data cleaning if bots hit) informed me that it can help a bit.

I normed this on a few people and 1 min is quite common but average was 2.


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: lorylore on September 14, 2015, 01:15:31 PM
Thanks for responding!  :)

Yeah, I used the same form as on reddit, but I figured people could just substitute in BitcoinTalk username instead and it wouldn't cause too much confusion.

Yeah, it doesn't stop bots but the person who helped me design the form (and who does the data cleaning if bots hit) informed me that it can help a bit.

I normed this on a few people and 1 min is quite common but average was 2.

Alright i was just notifying you that it is easy to spam if bad guys want to.
I wish you good luck in this survey, i encourage all to complete the survey.
Also when will you tell us the result :), that's the important part :)


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: BitcoinSurveyDude on September 14, 2015, 01:19:29 PM
I'm a little unsure of how long it'll take to get a decent number of responses, but will definitely publish a raw file once I'm done with collecting data. I'll remove all the usernames first, and also the timestamps, and anything else that might potentially identify people. That probably means I must also remove ages from the raw data file.


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: Sarthak on September 14, 2015, 01:26:10 PM
Done! But that personality part was a bit difficult to do from phone :D


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: BNO on September 14, 2015, 01:40:06 PM
Done. Did the personality part too, even though i'm usually paranoid to give my data away, even if its just matched to a pseudonymous username.. ;D



Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: Delek on September 14, 2015, 02:04:15 PM
Done!


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: Quantus on September 14, 2015, 03:38:18 PM
Its a shitty political survey, what are you hoping to find out from asking these questions?  


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: mallard on September 14, 2015, 04:22:24 PM
Done. Will you be sharing the results any time soon?


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: unamis76 on September 14, 2015, 04:28:41 PM
Its a shitty political survey, what are you hoping to find out from asking these questions?  

I was about to question the same thing, is the data going to be useful for something or it's just curiosity? Normally folks here sharing surveys are academics or something like that and will use the data for works/articles/publishing...


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: Mickeyb on September 14, 2015, 04:29:14 PM
Done! Looking forward on seeing results!

Good luck!


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: uxgpf on September 14, 2015, 06:02:31 PM
I don't think this Core vs XT setup is constructive at all.

We need to have them both. (and hopefully more)


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: zmhtech on September 14, 2015, 09:04:47 PM
It took about 2 minutes. Thanks for making the survey!


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: teukon on September 14, 2015, 11:03:30 PM
I'll pass on this survey but only because of the political orientation question (I had filled out the rest).


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: unamis76 on September 14, 2015, 11:52:00 PM
I'll pass on this survey but only because of the political orientation question (I had filled out the rest).


Almost passed on because of that too... Ended up filling that randomly :D


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: BitcoinSurveyDude on September 15, 2015, 12:14:20 AM
I'll pass on this survey but only because of the political orientation question (I had filled out the rest).


Thanks for the feedback. I've received a few remarks about this so I'll make a comment.

I agree that one question cannot provide anything like a nuanced assessment of your political outlook. However, in many countries, including the countries most likely to provide respondents to the survey, that single question is very predictive of eventual voting.

In other words, even if some readers think "this question is bullshit" it is nonetheless true that the question has predictive power. From a researcher's perspective if the question has predictive power it can be useful even if several participants don't like it.

FWIW I would also find it hard to pin my political views down to a scale like that.


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: unamis76 on September 15, 2015, 12:21:37 AM
In other words, even if some readers think "this question is bullshit" it is nonetheless true that the question has predictive power. From a researcher's perspective if the question has predictive power it can be useful even if several participants don't like it.

Although it might have predictive power, that question disregards people who don't support any of those options.


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: gogxmagog on September 15, 2015, 12:36:23 AM
Filled it out. Hard to imagine what the data will tell you, all pretty generalized questions. It will be interesting to read your results.


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: Brad Harrison on September 15, 2015, 12:38:04 AM
Survey completed


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: worhiper_-_ on September 15, 2015, 01:36:41 AM
In other words, even if some readers think "this question is bullshit" it is nonetheless true that the question has predictive power. From a researcher's perspective if the question has predictive power it can be useful even if several participants don't like it.

Although it might have predictive power, that question disregards people who don't support any of those options.

If none of those options represents you you could pick moderate. It'd be a pity not to fill out the rest just because of that. It's hard to be perfectly inclusive in forms when it comes to the political spectrum, participants just pick the closest.


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: BitcoinSurveyDude on September 15, 2015, 09:50:12 AM
In other words, even if some readers think "this question is bullshit" it is nonetheless true that the question has predictive power. From a researcher's perspective if the question has predictive power it can be useful even if several participants don't like it.

Although it might have predictive power, that question disregards people who don't support any of those options.

If none of those options represents you you could pick moderate. It'd be a pity not to fill out the rest just because of that. It's hard to be perfectly inclusive in forms when it comes to the political spectrum, participants just pick the closest.

Thanks. This expresses very well the principle behind items of this sort.


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: pinnadol on September 15, 2015, 11:03:14 AM
Done.


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: teukon on September 15, 2015, 01:41:36 PM
I agree that one question cannot provide anything like a nuanced assessment of your political outlook. However, in many countries, including the countries most likely to provide respondents to the survey, that single question is very predictive of eventual voting.

Precisely.  The question assumes that the person is a voter.  The question assumes that the person approves of central authority in principle.  The block size debate is firmly about how best to protect Bitcoin against the possible emergence of central authority.

I don't doubt this question's predictive power regarding election outcomes.  The survey neatly ignores conscientious non-voters exactly as an election itself does.

If none of those options represents you you could pick moderate. It'd be a pity not to fill out the rest just because of that. It's hard to be perfectly inclusive in forms when it comes to the political spectrum, participants just pick the closest.

It is as though the question: "Which of the following best describes your diet: beef-eater; pork-eater; chicken-eater; general meat-eater" was lifted from PorkFest and asked to a group with a relatively large number of vegetarians.  There really isn't a sensible closest option.


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: runpaint on September 15, 2015, 03:49:41 PM
This is just like Vegetarian PorkFest all over again. 


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: worhiper_-_ on September 16, 2015, 04:08:30 AM
If none of those options represents you you could pick moderate. It'd be a pity not to fill out the rest just because of that. It's hard to be perfectly inclusive in forms when it comes to the political spectrum, participants just pick the closest.

It is as though the question: "Which of the following best describes your diet: beef-eater; pork-eater; chicken-eater; general meat-eater" was lifted from PorkFest and asked to a group with a relatively large number of vegetarians.  There really isn't a sensible closest option.

The political spectrum is very complicated though. I guess an option would be to leave a blank space for everyone to enter their beliefs that perhaps weren't represented above. But if you try that in the special-beliefs Fest you're in danger of not being able to get the big picture.


Title: Re: 2 minute Google Forms survey: your opinions on Core vs XT
Post by: chakra74 on September 16, 2015, 04:23:06 AM
Just finished your survey.  Hope it helps.