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Title: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on October 13, 2012, 12:35:09 AM
Trying to promote Bitcoin. The rain will wash them away in no time, no doubt. The temptation was to deface the façades of the big banks with them, but I respect the banks' property (iiish... ;D ) even though they don't respect ours. I'll consider posting a few more strategically.

They take the form:

[text is centered]
SECURE
FAST
NO BANK FEES
(NO BANKS!)
[Bitcoin symbol]
BITCOIN
The New Virtual Gold
Learn more! Visit http://bitcoin.org/


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: BladeMcCool on October 13, 2012, 02:16:07 AM
got any pics? would love to see video of anyone seeing them and reacting in some way. probably only small percentage of passersby would notice/care about the message but still might be interesting to catch the few who might take interest.


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: BitcoinINV on October 13, 2012, 02:25:13 AM
Should print physical notes valued at .1 and have sponsors for them. So if I donated 1BTC I would have 9 notes printed in my design and keep part for printing cost. Then pass them out like that, think this would be a great exposure with the way physical notes look now.


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: kangasbros on October 13, 2012, 10:39:11 AM
On localbitcoins.com, we have a "print flyer" functionality, which prints out nicely designed PDF flyer, which you can put to billboards etc.

A great way to promote bitcoin, and also make some pocket money from the new bitcoin users by selling them their first bitcoins :)


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: Coinabul on October 13, 2012, 10:42:00 AM
I'll leave this here... http://coinabul.com/promote/


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: BitcoinINV on October 13, 2012, 03:53:31 PM
Those are Great! When summer comes back around I think I might pass some out at the beach.


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: greyhawk on October 13, 2012, 04:32:51 PM
I'll leave this here... http://coinabul.com/promote/

Nice Goatse poster.


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: Gatorhex on October 13, 2012, 04:40:32 PM
Assuming there is no law against defacing your money (there probably is for fly posting) just write "bitcoin.org" on all the debt notes that pass through your hands then everyone who uses the money will see it.

Honestly though bitcoin isn't ready from the prime time, it's still too nerdish. It needs to be a phone app that's both hacker proof and so simple your grandma could use it and transactions need to near instantaneous so you can use it in a store.


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on October 13, 2012, 05:20:54 PM
Honestly though bitcoin isn't ready from the prime time, it's still too nerdish. It needs to be a phone app that's both hacker proof and so simple your grandma could use it and transactions need to near instantaneous so you can use it in a store.

That is true to an extent. Then again, I consider myself only very mildly nerdish (it's been decades since I've actually written a fully functioning computer program, honest Guv!) yet have not found it too daunting to get into using Bitcoin and grasping the major concepts. The whole notion of a cryptocurrency as a hard e-commodity might be the tricky bit to explain to the unwary.

Then again, it's already been recently said around here that most high-street shops don't deal in gold, yet that substance still trades at $1600/ozt or so. :) Bitcoin isn't yet widely accepted but it is increasingly widely accepted.


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: Arto on October 14, 2012, 01:54:18 PM
Trying to promote Bitcoin. The rain will wash them away in no time, no doubt. The temptation was to deface the façades of the big banks with them, but I respect the banks' property (iiish... ;D ) even though they don't respect ours. I'll consider posting a few more strategically.

This is a great idea. If there was a good poster design one could use, I wouldn't mind having the local copy shop print out a couple of hundred full-color posters for me and then going about pasting them around town here in Berlin. In particular, I'd take them to various hackerspaces and other techie gathering locations.

The posters at http://coinabul.com/promote/ are a good start but not exactly what I'm looking for. I did not manage to locate the poster printing functionality on https://localbitcoins.com/ just yet; perhaps that requires having an advertisement.


Title: Guerrilla marketing for Bitcoin on a €20 note
Post by: Arto on October 14, 2012, 02:30:34 PM
Assuming there is no law against defacing your money (there probably is for fly posting) just write "bitcoin.org" on all the debt notes that pass through your hands then everyone who uses the money will see it.

Thanks a bunch for the ingenious guerrilla marketing idea. I've just gone ahead and done this for all the euro notes currently in my wallet. Here's photographic evidence as a sample:

https://i.imgur.com/IC4sUl.jpg (http://imgur.com/IC4sU)

I experimented a bit with different writing instruments, and in the end would recommend using a pencil. It works and looks better (at least on euro notes) than a ballpoint pen, doesn't permeate to the other side of the note as a felt tip pen would, and is erasable in case the payee gives you any grief about your illicit graffiti 8)


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: Arto on October 14, 2012, 03:02:44 PM
I liked Gatorhex's idea enough that I went ahead and started new forum thread just for that:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118395.0

I've also submitted this to /r/Bitcoin (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/) at Reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/11glvr/guerrilla_marketing_for_bitcoin_on_a_20_note/


Title: Re: Guerrilla marketing for Bitcoin on a €20 note
Post by: greyhawk on October 14, 2012, 04:02:07 PM
Assuming there is no law against defacing your money (there probably is for fly posting) just write "bitcoin.org" on all the debt notes that pass through your hands then everyone who uses the money will see it.

Thanks a bunch for the ingenious guerrilla marketing idea. I've just gone ahead and done this for all the euro notes currently in my wallet. Here's photographic evidence as a sample:

https://i.imgur.com/IC4sUl.jpg (http://imgur.com/IC4sU)

I experimented a bit with different writing instruments, and in the end would recommend using a pencil. It works and looks better (at least on euro notes) than a ballpoint pen, doesn't permeate to the other side of the note as a felt tip pen would, and is erasable in case the payee gives you any grief about your illicit graffiti 8)

Yeah, the erasability is important. While it's not illegal to write on Euro notes, notes that have been written on are no longer legal tender, so it's good idea to be able to erase that should someone not want to accept your notes.


Title: Re: Guerrilla marketing for Bitcoin on a €20 note
Post by: mikegogulski on October 14, 2012, 06:14:47 PM
Assuming there is no law against defacing your money (there probably is for fly posting) just write "bitcoin.org" on all the debt notes that pass through your hands then everyone who uses the money will see it.

Thanks a bunch for the ingenious guerrilla marketing idea. I've just gone ahead and done this for all the euro notes currently in my wallet. Here's photographic evidence as a sample:

https://i.imgur.com/IC4sUl.jpg (http://imgur.com/IC4sU)

I experimented a bit with different writing instruments, and in the end would recommend using a pencil. It works and looks better (at least on euro notes) than a ballpoint pen, doesn't permeate to the other side of the note as a felt tip pen would, and is erasable in case the payee gives you any grief about your illicit graffiti 8)

Yeah, the erasability is important. While it's not illegal to write on Euro notes, notes that have been written on are no longer legal tender, so it's good idea to be able to erase that should someone not want to accept your notes.

The Conspiracy wants you, children. Oh, it wants you bad.

 After I first saw "They Live" in late 1990, I had a rubber stamp made reading "THIS IS YOUR GOD" in big block letters of a size suitable for US banknotes. I'd stamp every one of the things that came through my hands for a year or two after that.

Nowadays I walk into a Tesco in Slovakia and buy something upstairs with a €10 note, getting a fiver back plus some coins. Unbeknownst to me, the five-euro note has a small tear on one corner. Take that note downstairs in the same Tesco, right afterwards, and try to pay for something and they'll refuse to take it. Sorry, you'll have to go to the bank ---and show ID--- to get the bloody thing replaced. Useless fucks.

So, my thought for this little bit of guerrilla marketing: Get a *small* rubberstamp made reading "bitcoin.org". Get some blue ink and dilute it down to something approaching the background of the €5 note. Stamp in an area where the mark won't be obtrusive, and not near the major security features. Make piles of them. Plenty will pass with no scrutiny at merchants, and at the end of the day you can always get a banked friend to take the pile you got tired of to his/her bank and ask for replacements, complaining that they've been collecting in the shop till.


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: mc_lovin on October 14, 2012, 06:35:06 PM
That's illegal, the marking up bills, although you're not pointing it at your own site so they won't have anyone to prosecute over that and in fact it's somewhat of a genius idea.  Keep up the good work.


Title: Re: Guerrilla marketing for Bitcoin on a €20 note
Post by: Arto on October 14, 2012, 06:50:41 PM
The Conspiracy wants you, children. Oh, it wants you bad.

After I first saw "They Live" in late 1990, I had a rubber stamp made reading "THIS IS YOUR GOD" in big block letters of a size suitable for US banknotes. I'd stamp every one of the things that came through my hands for a year or two after that.

Nowadays I walk into a Tesco in Slovakia and buy something upstairs with a €10 note, getting a fiver back plus some coins. Unbeknownst to me, the five-euro note has a small tear on one corner. Take that note downstairs in the same Tesco, right afterwards, and try to pay for something and they'll refuse to take it. Sorry, you'll have to go to the bank ---and show ID--- to get the bloody thing replaced. Useless fucks.

So, my thought for this little bit of guerrilla marketing: Get a *small* rubberstamp made reading "bitcoin.org". Get some blue ink and dilute it down to something approaching the background of the €5 note. Stamp in an area where the mark won't be obtrusive, and not near the major security features. Make piles of them. Plenty will pass with no scrutiny at merchants, and at the end of the day you can always get a banked friend to take the pile you got tired of to his/her bank and ask for replacements, complaining that they've been collecting in the shop till.

Thanks, Mike. I will look into the rubberstamp suggestion. Might get a small batch of them and sell a few on Bitmit to spread the idea...

PS. I don't actually recall ever seeing They Live (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Live), so now you've got me curious. TPB has it, of course.


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: Arto on October 14, 2012, 06:52:06 PM
That's illegal, the marking up bills, although you're not pointing it at your own site so they won't have anyone to prosecute over that and in fact it's somewhat of a genius idea.  Keep up the good work.

That's all right; what isn't illegal these days...


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: greyhawk on October 14, 2012, 07:15:52 PM
That's illegal, the marking up bills,

Not in Europe it isn't anymore. But as I said, the bills are no longer legal tender. Worse: If you bring a stack of the "rubber stamped" ones to the bank they will put them out of circulation WITHOUT you getting replacements. They do replacements only for wear and tear. In case of systematic defacement they will be confiscated WITHOUT replacements.


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: MatthewLM on October 14, 2012, 07:24:24 PM
You could tape a piece of paper onto the bank note with "bitcoin.org" or whatever on it. Then the tape can just be peeled off.


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: greyhawk on October 14, 2012, 07:30:27 PM
You could tape a piece of paper onto the bank note with "bitcoin.org" or whatever on it. Then the tape can just be peeled off.

http://fileinabox.com/files/2008/11/thumbs-up.jpg


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on October 14, 2012, 09:31:08 PM
The flyers I put up the other day were taken down, either by the weather or by officious "do-gooders". But not to worry, I've gone and put up some more! ;D They are pinned up at strategic bus stops, lamp posts outside neighbourhood convenience stores, etc. I should keep doing this periodically.


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: RyanRed on October 15, 2012, 07:02:30 AM
Way cool man!


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on October 15, 2012, 11:55:25 AM
Thanks man. :)

If it's council officials who took the flyers down, there's almost certainly no bias. I don't see any flyers visible around the city centre so they're probably making some kind of effort at public cleanliness/orderliness or something, a far cry from the situation 30 years ago for sure.


Title: Re: Guerrilla marketing for Bitcoin on a €20 note
Post by: mikegogulski on October 15, 2012, 02:49:26 PM
I don't actually recall ever seeing They Live (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Live), so now you've got me curious. TPB has it, of course.

Dude, that film is core curriculum.

PS: isohunt > TPB


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: tehace on October 15, 2012, 03:15:19 PM
Take pics next time you put some up :D


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on October 15, 2012, 06:29:09 PM
Take pics next time you put some up :D

I'll try to remember to take the camera with me! Filming and taping up flyers at the same time is of course a bit tricky...


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: ErebusBat on October 15, 2012, 07:52:58 PM
This is a cool idea, especially when combined with the fiat currency.

It could be one of those things that they see it but it doesn't really register until they get a bill in their hands.


Title: Re: Guerrilla marketing for Bitcoin on a €20 note
Post by: dustintrammell on October 16, 2012, 07:13:41 AM
Assuming there is no law against defacing your money (there probably is for fly posting) just write "bitcoin.org" on all the debt notes that pass through your hands then everyone who uses the money will see it.

Thanks a bunch for the ingenious guerrilla marketing idea. I've just gone ahead and done this for all the euro notes currently in my wallet.

I experimented a bit with different writing instruments, and in the end would recommend using a pencil. It works and looks better (at least on euro notes) than a ballpoint pen, doesn't permeate to the other side of the note as a felt tip pen would, and is erasable in case the payee gives you any grief about your illicit graffiti 8)

I had an ink stamp made years ago...  Much faster for marking large batches of notes (:


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on October 16, 2012, 07:30:48 AM
Honestly though bitcoin isn't ready from the prime time, it's still too nerdish. It needs to be a phone app that's both hacker proof and so simple your grandma could use it and transactions need to near instantaneous so you can use it in a store.

That is true to an extent. Then again, I consider myself only very mildly nerdish (it's been decades since I've actually written a fully functioning computer program, honest Guv!) yet have not found it too daunting to get into using Bitcoin and grasping the major concepts. The whole notion of a cryptocurrency as a hard e-commodity might be the tricky bit to explain to the unwary.

Then again, it's already been recently said around here that most high-street shops don't deal in gold, yet that substance still trades at $1600/ozt or so. :) Bitcoin isn't yet widely accepted but it is increasingly widely accepted.
That's where a third party service like Bitcoin comes in.


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: kangasbros on October 16, 2012, 08:21:12 AM
The posters at http://coinabul.com/promote/ are a good start but not exactly what I'm looking for. I did not manage to locate the poster printing functionality on https://localbitcoins.com/ just yet; perhaps that requires having an advertisement.

Yep, you do need an advertisement, because the flyer is advertising _your_ cash exchange. So it is very useful - you put the flyer to some billboard, some potential customer will spot the flyer, grab your exchange address and buy some bitcoins from you - allowing you to profit. And also excellent way to market bitcoins and help the average Joe to get started with bitcoins right away.

Example, my flyer: http://imgur.com/WPIFp (sorry for the finnish language, my exchange is obviously in Finland)

Edit: and btw, the flyer looks much smoother as original PDF, imgur converts the pdf to crappy quality...


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: Arto on October 16, 2012, 05:00:51 PM
The posters at http://coinabul.com/promote/ are a good start but not exactly what I'm looking for. I did not manage to locate the poster printing functionality on https://localbitcoins.com/ just yet; perhaps that requires having an advertisement.

Yep, you do need an advertisement, because the flyer is advertising _your_ cash exchange. So it is very useful - you put the flyer to some billboard, some potential customer will spot the flyer, grab your exchange address and buy some bitcoins from you - allowing you to profit. And also excellent way to market bitcoins and help the average Joe to get started with bitcoins right away.

Example, my flyer: http://imgur.com/WPIFp (sorry for the finnish language, my exchange is obviously in Finland)

Thanks for the LocalBitcoins.com flyer sample, that is pretty nifty. No worries about the Finnish, it was perfectly legible ;)


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: MaxSan on October 16, 2012, 09:02:42 PM
small stickers. aslongs they peel off.


Title: The Canadians join in on decorating their paper money
Post by: Arto on October 17, 2012, 09:40:24 PM
For those who may not have been watching the spin-off thread regarding guerrilla marketing on paper money (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118395.0), some highlights:

Here my first Canadian dollars ready to be unleashed!

http://s13.postimage.org/jonsdmwgn/bitcoindollard.jpg

Done!

https://i.imgur.com/oli2p.jpg

I hope they are still legal tender  :D

Many good follow-up ideas being bandied about regarding rubber stamps, stickers, QR codes, and whatnot; please join the discussion!


Title: Re: I posted some flyers in public downtown yesterday
Post by: lile on October 17, 2012, 10:23:08 PM
I'd love to make a giant bitcoin-logo crop circle one day. Imagine the headlines, aliens supporting bitcoin! Anyone up for it? :)


Title: Bitcoin Marketing Cards
Post by: Arto on October 18, 2012, 09:35:49 PM
Just noticed some potentially useful flyer designs in the Bitcoin Marketing Cards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119023.0) thread:

My brother and I have been working on some Bitcoin marketing material for the upcoming Students for Liberty conferences in New York City and Boston. We're going to be manning a table there with the good folks from the Free State Project, to try and get the young ones interested in Bitcoin!

We're putting the design work into the public domain and we'd love for people to download it and print their own. We'll also be selling printed material for you to order online. We've got a lot of exciting ideas we're working on, so stay tuned for more! [...]

https://i.imgur.com/xnIQgl.png

https://i.imgur.com/Y6Lufl.png