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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: marketorder on September 16, 2015, 06:47:45 AM



Title: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: marketorder on September 16, 2015, 06:47:45 AM
I just want to get this straight if I make my first deposit I have to take the 100% Bonus? If so I'm required to wager 30 times my bonus to cash out any amount of money??? So basically I deposit 1 Bitcoin they give me 2 Bitcoins to play with. Each Bitcoin is worth $230 so I need to wager $7800 to withdrawal any money even my initial deposit? So to me unless I'm a high roller and wager more than $7800 in Bitcoin I can't make a withdrawal? Sounds like a scheme to take all the deposits, I mean does the average player wager $7800 in Bitcoin gambling? Am I missing something here?
Here's a link to there bonus info https://fortunejack.com/promotions/

If is any reputable Bitcoin casinos that don't offer new member bonus?


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: yahoo62278 on September 16, 2015, 06:54:05 AM
you can opt out of bonuses from most casinos. honestly taking the bonuses arent worth it. im not sure where the opt out of bonuses is on FJ but its usually in the deposit page


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: marketorder on September 16, 2015, 06:55:40 AM
According to there site from my understanding you don't have a choice you automatically get the bonus on your fist deposit. If these rules and conditions are true I'm surprised anyone would deposit money, it certainly scared me away

you can opt out of bonuses from most casinos. honestly taking the bonuses arent worth it. im not sure where the opt out of bonuses is on FJ but its usually in the deposit page


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: arallmuus on September 16, 2015, 07:00:28 AM
I'll be blunt about this. Deposit bonus is a way for casino to get "profit" , some people may think it is great to have 100 % of your deposit however not everyone will be able to complete the rollover needed for withdrawal.


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: yahoo62278 on September 16, 2015, 07:02:42 AM
assuming that the bonus is mandatory why not deposit .01 get the bonus and lose it then deposit the other .990 if you wanna depo 1btc total?


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: marketorder on September 16, 2015, 07:08:20 AM
Because the deposit stipulations sound shady and I wouldn't trust 1 Satoshi with that site. That's of course if I'm understanding the deposit terms correctly

assuming that the bonus is mandatory why not deposit .01 get the bonus and lose it then deposit the other .990 if you wanna depo 1btc total?


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: arallmuus on September 16, 2015, 07:15:44 AM
That's of course if I'm understanding the deposit terms correctly

You are not. If you deposit 1 BTC , they will not give you 1 BTC instantly. In fact they will give you a partial bonus each times you wager.

Assuming you deposit 1 BTC  and rollover is 35 times , you will get 1 BTC after 35 BTC wagered

or partial of it

so 0.01 BTC for every 0.35 BTC wagered which you could withdraw anytime and it will just  void the rest of the potential bonus of 0.99BTC



Still They are shady.


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: TriggerX on September 16, 2015, 07:22:27 AM
Yea, the sites don't usually just give you a bitcoin just for wagering. Read more into the bonus page before you deposit. If there is a good bonus, there is usually a catch to it. Also remember to not force yourself to bet say 30btc quickly just to get the bonus.  ;)


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: Chemistry1988 on September 16, 2015, 07:22:51 AM
That's of course if I'm understanding the deposit terms correctly

You are not. If you deposit 1 BTC , they will not give you 1 BTC instantly. In fact they will give you a partial bonus each times you wager.

Assuming you deposit 1 BTC  and rollover is 35 times , you will get 1 BTC after 35 BTC wagered

or partial of it

so 0.01 BTC for every 0.35 BTC wagered which you could withdraw anytime and it will just  void the rest of the potential bonus of 0.99BTC


If so, they will need to rewrite their terms completely. No one would have understand it this way with the current terms, especially the line "Let's say you buy-in with a minimum of 0.02 BTC. We'll match that at 100% (up to 1 BTC) instantly!"


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: adaseb on September 16, 2015, 09:33:03 AM
That's of course if I'm understanding the deposit terms correctly

You are not. If you deposit 1 BTC , they will not give you 1 BTC instantly. In fact they will give you a partial bonus each times you wager.

Assuming you deposit 1 BTC  and rollover is 35 times , you will get 1 BTC after 35 BTC wagered

or partial of it

so 0.01 BTC for every 0.35 BTC wagered which you could withdraw anytime and it will just  void the rest of the potential bonus of 0.99BTC



Still They are shady.


They aren't shady. This is how it is with most casinos. If this wasn't the case then all the casinos would be bankrupt because people could abuse them.


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: arallmuus on September 16, 2015, 09:36:24 AM
That's of course if I'm understanding the deposit terms correctly

You are not. If you deposit 1 BTC , they will not give you 1 BTC instantly. In fact they will give you a partial bonus each times you wager.

Assuming you deposit 1 BTC  and rollover is 35 times , you will get 1 BTC after 35 BTC wagered

or partial of it

so 0.01 BTC for every 0.35 BTC wagered which you could withdraw anytime and it will just  void the rest of the potential bonus of 0.99BTC



Still They are shady.


They aren't shady. This is how it is with most casinos. If this wasn't the case then all the casinos would be bankrupt because people could abuse them.

Incase you dont even take your time to understand , Im not pointing the term "shady" to their deposit bonus, that is why I separate it .


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: marketorder on September 16, 2015, 06:28:32 PM
They should give an option for there customers to not accept the bonus. When you take the bonus you will never see your initial deposit ever again.
That's of course if I'm understanding the deposit terms correctly

You are not. If you deposit 1 BTC , they will not give you 1 BTC instantly. In fact they will give you a partial bonus each times you wager.

Assuming you deposit 1 BTC  and rollover is 35 times , you will get 1 BTC after 35 BTC wagered

or partial of it

so 0.01 BTC for every 0.35 BTC wagered which you could withdraw anytime and it will just  void the rest of the potential bonus of 0.99BTC



Still They are shady.


They aren't shady. This is how it is with most casinos. If this wasn't the case then all the casinos would be bankrupt because people could abuse them.


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: fox19891989 on September 16, 2015, 06:39:09 PM
alla is correct, the bonus term is hidden, and totally different from their description, I don't know do they modified it but they keep that term for 1 year, and the terms are misleading actually.

Like their bonus, coninroyale and cloudbet have the same/similar bonus scheme, you need to wager 0.3btc for a 0.01btc real money to release, they don't add 100% deposit bonus instantly, but I like this kind of bonus, it is more controllable so we can withdraw our money at any time, if we have earned money, doesn't like other casino bonus,they lock your deposit and bonus unless you have completed 35X-50X rollover, that way is easier to lose the deposit


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: yanka50 on September 16, 2015, 06:46:48 PM
And I don't think you can make the bonus requierments by playing dice.


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: bittaitaliana on September 16, 2015, 07:27:12 PM
more site offer 100% deposit bonus to casino, but later see the xxwager see already how game is good for wagered.
Only keno have 100% contribution, all other is under 50 %


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: fox19891989 on September 16, 2015, 07:39:23 PM
more site offer 100% deposit bonus to casino, but later see the xxwager see already how game is good for wagered.
Only keno have 100% contribution, all other is under 50 %

yeah, and 20% for slots is ridiculous low, slots have so high house edge, and other casinos have 100% contribution with 35X rollover program, which is much better than here, playing here means 30/20%=150X rollover, I don't see any reason to apply this bad bonus program, at least some other casinos offer better chances.

And BJ here sucks, my 21(6+4+A) lost, cause house had 21(not a blackjack), must a greedy bastard modified this rule in this casino. I never seen any other rules like here.


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: rodrigobitcoin on September 16, 2015, 08:15:16 PM
i have play more time with the high wagered bonus to more casino (but 80% with a bonus free, without deposit) and is impossible withdraw, x35 or more is x175 is you play only roulette or blackjack  ;D


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: hopenotlate on September 25, 2015, 01:55:01 PM
I don't know if bonus T. & C. have been changed since this thread was opened but right now I can EASILY read (in original post linked promo page) this statement:

..."If you withdraw money before reaching the minimum wagering requirements, your bonus and winnings will become void."


So you canwithdraw your initial deposit without having to fulfill bonus playtrough requirements.

Anyway best suggestion I read here is this one:

assuming that the bonus is mandatory why not deposit .01 get the bonus and lose it then deposit the other .990 if you wanna depo 1btc total?


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: ndnh on September 25, 2015, 02:13:59 PM
I don't know if bonus T. & C. have been changed since this thread was opened but right now I can EASILY read (in original post linked promo page) this statement:

..."If you withdraw money before reaching the minimum wagering requirements, your bonus and winnings will become void."


So you canwithdraw your initial deposit without having to fulfill bonus playtrough requirements.

Anyway best suggestion I read here is this one:

assuming that the bonus is mandatory why not deposit .01 get the bonus and lose it then deposit the other .990 if you wanna depo 1btc total?

AFAIK, the bonus is not mandatory.

FJ's bonus system does not work the usual way either I think. But the T&C the one in the quote does not seem to relate to the way they are actually giving the bonus. (not that I am complaining, but it doesn't really explain things


Edit: lol, this is what I am saying. :)
alla is correct, the bonus term is hidden, and totally different from their description,


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: katerniko1 on September 25, 2015, 02:23:38 PM
that is why they offer you that bonus :D
so when you win a bit you can't withdraw and you need to play and you need to be extremly lucky to win in that offer and take some money out..
regards.
-Katerniko1


Title: Re: Fortunejack Bonus Question
Post by: bitbaby on September 26, 2015, 03:24:09 AM
I haven't played there in a while so I don't know if this is true or not but I doubt that it is not optional, I think it might get applied automatically when you deposit but if you talk to the support you can ask them to remove it, very few people would want to take that bonus on those terms as wagering that much seems almost impossible.

Usually at other casinos it's not even applied automatically, you deposit and you then enable it from your account through a code or by clicking a button, if you want it that is. But if they're doing this then it's not good and people will avoid depositing there, or if it's only for first deposit then they'll deposit a very small amount like 0.001 BTC as their first deposit.