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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Jakez on September 18, 2015, 12:10:15 PM



Title: khan_telecom is a scammer
Post by: Jakez on September 18, 2015, 12:10:15 PM
I have sent around 146 EUR skrill to khan_telecom. I did see one positive  feedback from Dr.Exchanger for 5 BTC and i thought he is legit also his thread seems clean without any negative feedback. I went first and sent the money to skrill but he didn't sent me BTC and asking me source of fund and some other shit. I think he was trying to get some more time to spent the money before i file dispute. Anyway i filed a dispute yesterday but i do not know if i get my money back.Whatever don't deal with him.

User profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=353449

One doubt from my side..Even though some users proven to be scammed other members, why they still have access to forum. They are roaming around with red bulb. Why the admins not giving them a life time ban ?I'm saying about only proven ones. You can see this user convicted that he scammed other users https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551042, But still this user scamming many others.I have seen many marketplace forums most of them ban the users for lifetime with their ip blacklisted.


Title: Re: khan_telecom is a scammer
Post by: Dr Charles on September 18, 2015, 12:13:55 PM
I am sorry to hear about this issue but ultimately, they remain on the forums because it is your responsibility to complete due diligence and get safegaurds in place, like using an escrow service, prior to completing any transactions. I hope you can get your lost funds back.


Title: Re: khan_telecom is a scammer
Post by: shorena on September 18, 2015, 12:14:46 PM
I have sent around 146 EUR skrill to khan_telecom. I did see one positive  feedback from Dr.Exchanger for 5 BTC and i thought he is legit also his thread seems clean without any negative feedback. I went first and sent the money to skrill but he didn't sent me BTC and asking me source of fund and some other shit. I think he was trying to get some more time to spent the money before i file dispute. Anyway i filed a dispute yesterday but i do not know if i get my money back.Whatever don't deal with him.

User profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=353449

Anything more than your word?

One doubt from my side..Even though some users proven to be scammed other members, why they still have access to forum. They are roaming around with red bulb. Why the admins not giving them a life time ban ?I'm saying about only proven ones. You can see this user convicted that he scammed other users https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551042, But still this user scamming many others.I have seen many marketplace forums most of them ban the users for lifetime with their ip blacklisted.

That should be discussed in meta. The tl;dr version: it would give mods too much power and create a feeling of safety (there are no scammers, since they would be banned) that has nothing to do with reality.


Title: Re: khan_telecom is a scammer
Post by: Brewins on September 18, 2015, 12:15:20 PM
I have seen exchange thread of this user and found whenever a trusted guy offer to exchange for him he ignores them and only wan to trade with users without trust feedbacks so he don't have to send first

I might be wrong but at first look its like a scam trap for newbies or low ranked users


Title: Re: khan_telecom is a scammer
Post by: Jakez on September 18, 2015, 12:23:19 PM
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Anything more than your word?

I will post PM's and skrill transaction in this thread within few hrs. Its just for warn other users.
One doubt from my side..Even though some users proven to be scammed other members, why they still have access to forum. They are roaming around with red bulb. Why the admins not giving them a life time ban ?I'm saying about only proven ones. You can see this user convicted that he scammed other users https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551042, But still this user scamming many others.I have seen many marketplace forums most of them ban the users for lifetime with their ip blacklisted.

That should be discussed in meta. The tl;dr version: it would give mods too much power and create a feeling of safety (there are no scammers, since they would be banned) that has nothing to do with reality.

Ya its a serious feature they need to discuss.

I have seen exchange thread of this user and found whenever a trusted guy offer to exchange for him he ignores them and only wan to trade with users without trust feedbacks so he don't have to send first

I might be wrong but at first look its like a scam trap for newbies or low ranked users
His thread look clean and no negative feedback yet from anyone, Or else i wont go first and i hoped that i can file a dispute ( I did that now, I will lose my fund if he is smarter, bcoz he was trying to buy some time yesterday.so he was trying something with fund, if there is no balance in account then skrill cannot do anything.) Going through the escrow process in this forum seems very lengthy. Most of the time i don't like waiting that much. I was in a hurry and took the risk.


Title: Re: khan_telecom is a scammer
Post by: Jakez on September 18, 2015, 01:11:03 PM
I am sorry to hear about this issue but ultimately, they remain on the forums because it is your responsibility to complete due diligence and get safegaurds in place, like using an escrow service, prior to completing any transactions. I hope you can get your lost funds back.
I have tried once an escrow. I cannot wait that much time for completing a deal. Its take minimum 2-3 hrs for finishing a deal and need to wait for each PM's that might take hrs to arrive and finish the deal. If there was an automatic escrow then i'm very happy to do that. Thanks for concern on the fund. I will update once the skrill team responds on the issue .


Title: Re: khan_telecom is a scammer
Post by: MarkMJ on September 18, 2015, 01:57:03 PM
Khan is an old scammar of emf now of ecz
Stop doing trade with this scammar
Waithing the skrill transaction.


Title: Re: khan_telecom is a scammer
Post by: Dr Charles on September 18, 2015, 02:00:32 PM
I am sorry to hear about this issue but ultimately, they remain on the forums because it is your responsibility to complete due diligence and get safegaurds in place, like using an escrow service, prior to completing any transactions. I hope you can get your lost funds back.
I have tried once an escrow. I cannot wait that much time for completing a deal. Its take minimum 2-3 hrs for finishing a deal and need to wait for each PM's that might take hrs to arrive and finish the deal. If there was an automatic escrow then i'm very happy to do that. Thanks for concern on the fund. I will update once the skrill team responds on the issue .

I have seen success with people using the LocalBitcoins platform as a basic escrow service or if you coordinate with someone like OgNasty, they should be able to complete it in a timely manner.


Title: Re: khan_telecom is a scammer
Post by: TYPEcoin on September 18, 2015, 02:41:09 PM
Thank you Mark for tell us,this is what I have find about khan_telecom
http://crypto.country/forum/Thread-khan-telecom-is-a-scammer
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1158037.10;wap2
https://exchangecurrencyzone.com/showthread.php/166019-some-one-use-the-name-and-id-of-khan_telecom-scam-me-in-212-pm-jevvel-khan06-scammer


Title: Re: khan_telecom is a scammer
Post by: Jakez on September 20, 2015, 11:29:50 AM
Unfortunately the refund not initiated. Because he is already sent out the fund to some other account or cashed out.

Reply from skrill support:

"Regrettably, the funds in question have already left our system, therefore a refund would not be possible. Please, bear in mind that Skrill is the processor of the payment, not the recipient."


Title: Re: khan_telecom is a scammer
Post by: MarkMJ on September 20, 2015, 12:00:35 PM
Unfortunately the refund not initiated. Because he is already sent out the fund to some other account or cashed out.

Reply from skrill support:

"Regrettably, the funds in question have already left our system, therefore a refund would not be possible. Please, bear in mind that Skrill is the processor of the payment, not the recipient."


Ok,than I'm waiting pm from you with all the paper's that you have about this issues
Only if you want.