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Title: My PayPal horror story
Post by: iluvbitcoins on September 21, 2015, 11:34:36 PM
On 30th August I got this e-mail

https://i.imgur.com/SU8e7xG.png

Claiming my account has been limited because of sales offers on fight-bb.com

It was the first time ever hearing of that website, so I thought that was a simple mistake and could be sorted out easily.

I called them and asked why has my account been limited, I have never heard of this website before
The response was: "I have no information about that, but I can send it for a review"

I said okay with faith it will be lifted.

Soon, I got an e-mail.

https://i.imgur.com/fNf12Gp.png

I called them again and asked why has my account been limited, and I said I don't want the limit removed, I just want to know why has my account been limited, and again the response was "I don't have access to that information", I sent e-mails, I called and called, and no results.

I visited the website and found out fight-bb.com is a UFC website, UFC!

I have never done any sales or even bought something related to UFC online.

I thought I was framed by someone else and started searching the website with anything related to me, but found nothing.

I called again and asked why, still the same response, I got furious and said "I can't believe this, I'm going to make sure every website on the internet knows how PayPal treats its customers".

This is what I'm trying to do.

PayPal can get you banned for no reason, and you won't be able to get your account back!


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: actmyname on September 21, 2015, 11:42:36 PM
Are you completely sure that that email is from a legitimate PayPal employee? If it's a scam phishing mail, then it might be a whole 'nother problem.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: btvGainer on September 21, 2015, 11:46:15 PM
Have they confiscated your money too? if that is the case,you can sue them and if you had no money in your paypal account,dont waste your time on PayPal and move to skrill.I have been reading lots of PayPal stories but my personal experience with them were very pleasant when once they limited my account. I called them and they helped me got the limit removed.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: iluvbitcoins on September 21, 2015, 11:47:51 PM
Are you completely sure that that email is from a legitimate PayPal employee? If it's a scam phishing mail, then it might be a whole 'nother problem.

Yes, my account has been limited on PayPal.com
And I have talked with their support numerous times.

Have they confiscated your money too? if that is the case,you can sue them and if you had no money in your paypal account,dont waste your time on PayPal and move to skrill.I have been reading lots of PayPal stories but my personal experience with them were very pleasant when once they limited my account. I called them and they helped me got the limit removed.

Yes, 160$.
I don't really care about the money though, I cared about using my PayPal, I used it for many years, I have made 200+ purchases on eBay, and this is what I get in return without any of my own fault.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: btvGainer on September 21, 2015, 11:54:54 PM
Are you completely sure that that email is from a legitimate PayPal employee? If it's a scam phishing mail, then it might be a whole 'nother problem.

Yes, my account has been limited on PayPal.com
And I have talked with their support numerous times.

Have they confiscated your money too? if that is the case,you can sue them and if you had no money in your paypal account,dont waste your time on PayPal and move to skrill.I have been reading lots of PayPal stories but my personal experience with them were very pleasant when once they limited my account. I called them and they helped me got the limit removed.

Yes, 160$.
I don't really care about the money though, I cared about using my PayPal, I used it for many years, I have made 200+ purchases on eBay, and this is what I get in return without any of my own fault.

From what I understand,they believe you have made purchase of something at the mentioned site and hence violated their terms of use.Does it reflect in your PayPal transaction history?


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: iluvbitcoins on September 22, 2015, 12:03:04 AM
From what I understand,they believe you have made purchase of something at the mentioned site and hence violated their terms of use.Does it reflect in your PayPal transaction history?

Not a purchase, sales offers.

No.

They limited my account for selling on a website on which I  never sold on, and which I never visited at all!!

If anyone can tell me where I could send my story to get it published, I would be very interested in doing so.
Thank you.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: Digital_Lord on September 22, 2015, 12:13:59 AM
does anyone else in your house use paypal on your computer?


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: iluvbitcoins on September 22, 2015, 12:17:56 AM
does anyone else in your house use paypal on your computer?

No, my father&mother can barely use the TV, not PayPal  :D


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: White sugar on September 22, 2015, 01:33:40 AM
Paypal now is doing its own version of The trial, from Kafka


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: btvGainer on September 22, 2015, 09:32:34 AM
From what I understand,they believe you have made purchase of something at the mentioned site and hence violated their terms of use.Does it reflect in your PayPal transaction history?

Not a purchase, sales offers.

No.

They limited my account for selling on a website on which I  never sold on, and which I never visited at all!!

If anyone can tell me where I could send my story to get it published, I would be very interested in doing so.
Thank you.
That is really ridiculous,if you haven't made any transaction on the said site,how come PayPal know that you made any sale offer (although you haven't).Were they tracking your browsing history too ??? I doubt if they can do it
As to your other question, you can publish your PayPal hate story here http://www.aboutpaypal.org


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: Mayer Amschel on September 22, 2015, 09:40:29 AM
I got scammed 3,500$ worht of selling BTC on Paypal due to the funds being reversed by buyer (this is 3 years ago).

Then Paypal contacted me stating since they had refunded the 3,500$ to the buyer i now owed 3,500$ (total 7,000$ loss)

I sent the debtors agency Paypal had hired to get my money the conversation screenshots LocalBTC had provided me with.

In the end i only lost 3,500$ as Paypal left me alone.

 ;D


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: iluvbitcoins on September 22, 2015, 11:50:58 AM
That is really ridiculous,if you haven't made any transaction on the said site,how come PayPal know that you made any sale offer (although you haven't).Were they tracking your browsing history too ??? I doubt if they can do it
As to your other question, you can publish your PayPal hate story here http://www.aboutpaypal.org

Already submitted there.
If they tracked my browsing history then they would know I never visited the website.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: kolloh on September 22, 2015, 01:04:24 PM
I've seen similar horror stories with Paypal.

Pretty bad that they won't give you a more detailed response though or allow you to properly dispute the claim.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: SomeBoy on September 22, 2015, 02:35:35 PM
www.screw-paypal.com (http://www.screw-paypal.com)

www.aboutpaypal.org (http://www.aboutpaypal.org)

www.paypalcomplaints.org (http://www.paypalcomplaints.org)

www.paypalsucks.com (http://www.paypalsucks.com)

www.paypalwarning.com (http://www.paypalwarning.com)

www.facebook.com/NoPayPal (http://www.facebook.com/NoPayPal)


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: Triple on September 22, 2015, 02:36:42 PM
Lmao PayPal is thinks that they're King and can do whatever they want. The sad part about it is that it's true. Too many people trust in it to go to another payment processor. Losing a couple customers means nothing to them


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: boliu on September 22, 2015, 02:45:10 PM
Lmao PayPal is thinks that they're King and can do whatever they want. The sad part about it is that it's true. Too many people trust in it to go to another payment processor. Losing a couple customers means nothing to them

They are King, what else can you use that is safe.  They do offer buyer and seller protection when you can provide the necessary proofs.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: snipie on September 22, 2015, 02:51:26 PM
Paypal is the worst service ever seen, i had a horrible experience with it years ago even that i lost only ~17$ but it means too much for me at that time.

Hope you can get your money back.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: mallard on September 22, 2015, 09:05:26 PM
Have they confiscated your money too?

Why do people store money in their PayPal accounts?
Surely you would want it in the bank where it is (slightly) safer?


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: Triple on September 22, 2015, 09:06:45 PM
Have they confiscated your money too?

Why do people store money in their PayPal accounts?
Surely you would want it in the bank where it is (slightly) safer?

Paypal is the leading payment processor. Major companies accept paypal for their goods and the ease of use is very convenient.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: mallard on September 22, 2015, 09:08:48 PM
Have they confiscated your money too?

Why do people store money in their PayPal accounts?
Surely you would want it in the bank where it is (slightly) safer?

Paypal is the leading payment processor. Major companies accept paypal for their goods and the ease of use is very convenient.

But whenever I spend money through PayPal, it uses my card.
I didn't even know PayPal stored money until I read some of the horror stories of accounts getting limited.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: btvGainer on September 22, 2015, 10:08:24 PM
Have they confiscated your money too?

Why do people store money in their PayPal accounts?
Surely you would want it in the bank where it is (slightly) safer?

Paypal is the leading payment processor. Major companies accept paypal for their goods and the ease of use is very convenient.

But whenever I spend money through PayPal, it uses my card.
I didn't even know PayPal stored money until I read some of the horror stories of accounts getting limited.
When you receive a payment,PayPal doesn't immediately transfer it to your account.They have different policies for different countries.For Indian users,they cant hold their money for more than 48 hours due to RBI regulations.In most of other countries,users have to manually withdraw their funds after a stipulated time and if some dispute arises in the meantime,they limit your account and prevent withdrawal


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: fissionerosion on September 22, 2015, 10:38:34 PM
oh be a pity :o :o


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: Digital_Lord on September 25, 2015, 03:48:18 AM
Have they confiscated your money too?

Why do people store money in their PayPal accounts?
Surely you would want it in the bank where it is (slightly) safer?

Paypal is the leading payment processor. Major companies accept paypal for their goods and the ease of use is very convenient.
think about what you just said, paypal is a payment processor, they specialize in sending and receiving money  and some people trust them enough to actually store money in their accounts
Banks on the other hand store money, their main job is to keep money safe


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: iluvbitcoins on September 26, 2015, 01:03:25 AM
Have they confiscated your money too?

Why do people store money in their PayPal accounts?
Surely you would want it in the bank where it is (slightly) safer?

Paypal is the leading payment processor. Major companies accept paypal for their goods and the ease of use is very convenient.
think about what you just said, paypal is a payment processor, they specialize in sending and receiving money  and some people trust them enough to actually store money in their accounts
Banks on the other hand store money, their main job is to keep money safe

Though, in a bank your money won't be frozen for 180 days unless there is some serious accusations against you


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: beepboopbeep on September 26, 2015, 02:39:57 AM
I had my paypal account locked just from ordering a debit card once. they can be so random.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: SerenaL on September 26, 2015, 02:51:24 AM
I am annoyed with paypal because they do not allow withdrawls to my bank account or withdrawl by check in my country. It is a shame since a lot of freelance jobs online want to pay via  Paypal.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: iluvbitcoins on September 27, 2015, 05:37:29 PM
Bitcoin is the ultimate currency, no one can take it away from you

And if you want buyer protection you simply use escrow!


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: chanlance on September 30, 2015, 01:34:16 PM
EITHER YOU TRIED UPGADING ACCOUNT TO BUSINESS ACCOUNT AND DIDNT PROVIDE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS OR YOU WERE USING A VPN THAT LOCKED YOU OUT.......:)


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: iluvbitcoins on October 01, 2015, 08:44:38 PM
EITHER YOU TRIED UPGADING ACCOUNT TO BUSINESS ACCOUNT AND DIDNT PROVIDE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS OR YOU WERE USING A VPN THAT LOCKED YOU OUT.......:)

Neither.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: FanEagle on October 01, 2015, 09:51:22 PM
That why I would prefer using skrill. It makes me feel safer.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: iluvbitcoins on October 02, 2015, 03:39:32 PM
That why I would prefer using skrill. It makes me feel safer.

Most people have PP, first we need to change the world, and stories like this are helping though


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: xmaxbit on October 02, 2015, 08:02:51 PM
I had lost a total of 8 usd for stellar and 8 usd paypal . The buyer made a chargeback and finally I talked to paypal cutomer care. Then paypal gave me 8 usd back, after that I am always cautious.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: CanIHazBitcoin777 on October 02, 2015, 09:56:28 PM
Lucky that i closed my accounts years ago, fuck them, they look like a bunch of scammers.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: mallard on October 02, 2015, 10:45:40 PM
Lucky that i closed my accounts years ago, fuck them, they look like a bunch of scammers.

Look like? They are.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: CanIHazBitcoin777 on October 03, 2015, 12:30:35 AM
Lucky that i closed my accounts years ago, fuck them, they look like a bunch of scammers.

Look like? They are.

I`m not sure, it might be just incompetence and abusive power concentrated to monopoly corporations like usual.

Tons of people tend to abuse their power, it might not be premeditated.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: SerenaL on October 03, 2015, 01:16:37 AM
I had my account limited in the past for 3 months. It was a nightmare.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: vlajce on October 03, 2015, 06:14:11 PM
This needs to stay on top


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: iluvbitcoins on October 03, 2015, 10:04:18 PM
I had my account limited in the past for 3 months. It was a nightmare.

3? Isn't it 6?


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: codishmumu on October 04, 2015, 07:34:46 AM
PayPal has always been sweet to me. I think PayPal does what it can.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: timshibuyvcc on November 16, 2015, 07:38:28 PM
There is so much that PayPal can do without justifying.

If you know how to navigate without pissing them off, you can last long.

Here is some sources to view:

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/paypal-limited/

http://auctionessistance.com/paypal-limitations-reasons/

http://complaints.paypalsucks.com/

http://www.ebay.com/gds/why-PayPal-sucks-/10000000004021271/g.html


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: Faradey100 on November 16, 2015, 08:00:58 PM
Same problem to me,with limited account:(


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: truckerJoe on November 17, 2015, 06:51:37 AM
bro, once your account gets closed you will be able to open a different one with a new email and new credit card
dont forget that paypal are a bunch of wankers
however, i wouldnt use them anymore if it were my account they would close
you never know when they will decide to play hide-the-salami with your butthole
fukn idiots


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: Spoetnik on November 17, 2015, 07:24:24 AM
so UFC related stuff against their TOS ? WOW i had no idea that is fucking retarded !

i know any digital currency stuff is.

and guy don't just make another account that us dumb LOL

and DO NOT ever put a credit card number in there.. that is plain stupid.

I fought these pricks over a BTC-e withdrawal after they unlocked my account for fighting them for 2 months
they ripped me off for almost $700 bucks and kept lying about it..
then i got them to admit after another month of fighting.
then i got a random bill *swiftly pushed to my bank account for $24 in ebay fee's from months earlier
when i sold something and i had an invoice that said i owed 0 dollars and 0 cents.
i didn't owe them anything..
my bank stuck me with a $45 nsf charge and i got pissed off and closed my account
later my bank manager met with me on another matter and used that incident to ban me from my bank for ever.

I had taken out all my money just for the hell of it the day before (i don't trust banks)
I had about $150 in there and had not spent it yet the next day when the NSF charge showed up.
and funny part is when i ever waited for money to get sent from Paypal to my bank it took days..
But they sent me an email and had taken the money from my account in 24 hours flat.

oh and get this..
i had called Paypal before sending coins from BTC-e to Paypal
and asked if all was cool.. they said yeah no problem and even checked with a supervisor.
I did this i told them because i had not used my Paypal in a couple years roughly.
and i had a new address.. they said ya your fine go ahead.. spend away !

roughly 8 hours after being told on the phone your good.. they locked my account.
and why was a fishing expedition.. they kept changing their story as to what the problem is.
they would never tell me really just demanding more and more info etc.
do yourselves a favor and stay the fuck away from Paypal.

I will repeat.. ALL digital currency activity is against their TOS.. your will have your account locked and funds seized !


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: rychallenge on November 17, 2015, 08:24:52 AM
interesting, but this is not the first time paypal has limited someone for no reason. i am not surprised.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: CoinInvestorZ on November 18, 2015, 02:50:34 PM
PayPal does this allot of time, allot of site's operators get limited for no specific reason.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: UliJonHoth on November 18, 2015, 05:27:50 PM
Screw paypal. Bitcoin: for the people, by the people.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: ridery99 on November 18, 2015, 07:51:44 PM
use da btc phonk


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: connexus on November 18, 2015, 10:56:20 PM
The lesson here is don't use your account to digital currency related transactions to avoid being scammed by Paypal.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: knightkon on November 21, 2015, 04:03:52 AM
PayPal shut an account a friend of mine owns down.  This account had a balance of 2.9 Million dollars.  The did this about 2 months after 9/11 and wanted to verify who he was.  His attorney sent them the verification information with in the matter of 2 hours from his account being frozen, pending verification, and it took them 7 days to release the account.  Then 2 days later they froze an account that large over $81.  That is all.  They are great people that need to fall off the face of the earth.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: TTMNewsMJ on November 21, 2015, 11:09:09 AM
I think Paypal is the worst.
That is why I don't want to use it.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: midmir on November 21, 2015, 01:23:16 PM
Ah PayPal ... are they still in the picture?

PP needs go down as soon as possible.

Elon Musk saw its inevitable burn and sold it on time.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: paradoxum on November 21, 2015, 11:25:32 PM
i3.gov - file complaint

Than go to state AG office and file complaint online.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: 1btcdream on November 21, 2015, 11:58:52 PM
I think Paypal is the worst.
That is why I don't want to use it.

Indeed, paypal really sucks they freezes and lock accounts for no reason.


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: Blackwindow on November 22, 2015, 12:11:41 AM
pay-pal alwas do that

when they limited you, just open a new one.

rinse and reppeat


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: paradoxum on November 22, 2015, 12:30:44 PM
i3.gov - file complaint

Than go to state AG office and file complaint online.

Better just use bitcoin. They are big and the government wont do anything.

He will be just wasting his time with useless bureocrats.

Depends on the state.  I live in CA and this is the worst state for businesses.  It's the best if you want to fight a company. Antime I reference the CA State AG or Trade or Labor Bureau I get things solved quickly :P


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: iluvbitcoins on December 27, 2015, 10:59:56 PM
They let me withdraw the money, but the accounts remains limited.

Only thing I can do right now is to recommend you guys to avoid PayPal  :D


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: bikoBoy on December 30, 2015, 11:54:53 AM
You can withdraw through a bank account that has the same name etc... after 180 days and sometimes less as far as I know, PayPal has already been known for doing this with anyone doing anything they don't like (not necessarily forbidden by them)


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: copperhorse111 on December 30, 2015, 12:50:45 PM
Had the same thing happen to me with PayPal multiple times, withdrawn one which was around $300 and the kept around $45, did not use it after learning about BTC..


Title: Re: My PayPal horror story
Post by: TibanneCat on December 30, 2015, 08:42:56 PM
Our company had several problems with paypal crap before
ranging from random account freezes to denying money transfers to some subcontractors

Now we use bitcoin whenever we can and no more time wasted with paypal customer service!!