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Title: PAYPAL
Post by: JULIANISAH on September 23, 2015, 02:12:56 PM
I have a buyer on twitter, this day he emailed me that the account was hacked. He's blacklisting me and said that he will open casse to paypal. Im not the hacker and I don't have any access to the sold twitter account.

What will happen If I didn't pay the negative balance to paypal? The buyers payment was not on my hand now, I spend it to my tuition fee.
How do I won a chargeback if ever?


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: OmegaStarScream on September 23, 2015, 02:15:28 PM
I have a buyer on twitter, this day he emailed me that the account was hacked. He's blacklisting me and said that he will open casse to paypal. Im not the hacker and I don't have any access to the sold twitter account.

What will happen If I didn't pay the negative balance to paypal? The buyers payment was not on my hand now, I spend it to my tuition fee.
How do I won a chargeback if ever?

Your account will stay on negative balance unless you deposit money then the money will be sent to the dispute winner and alo as far as I know they could withraw from your credit card or bank account or something ...
Only way to win the dispute is to provide evidence of what you are saying , don't email PayPal , you should call them and explain the whole situation .


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: JULIANISAH on September 23, 2015, 02:22:42 PM
I have a buyer on twitter, this day he emailed me that the account was hacked. He's blacklisting me and said that he will open casse to paypal. Im not the hacker and I don't have any access to the sold twitter account.

What will happen If I didn't pay the negative balance to paypal? The buyers payment was not on my hand now, I spend it to my tuition fee.
How do I won a chargeback if ever?

Your account will stay on negative balance unless you deposit money then the money will be sent to the dispute winner and alo as far as I know they could withraw from your credit card or bank account or something ...
Only way to win the dispute is to provide evidence of what you are saying , don't email PayPal , you should call them and explain the whole situation .

The buyer have an access to account, but was unable to tweet and then he said that I hacked the account.
The buyer of my account is black mailing me, he said that he will make the situation worse if I didnt give him back the twitter account.
He give me choices, it's either I give him the account or give the money back. My only choice is to give the money back coz' I don't have the access to the account. I'm not the hacker, he is using the account for 3 weeks now he said that I hacked the account.

Will I be put jail if I didnt give back the money? I don't have any money Im bot rich either.


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: OmegaStarScream on September 23, 2015, 02:34:14 PM
I have a buyer on twitter, this day he emailed me that the account was hacked. He's blacklisting me and said that he will open casse to paypal. Im not the hacker and I don't have any access to the sold twitter account.

What will happen If I didn't pay the negative balance to paypal? The buyers payment was not on my hand now, I spend it to my tuition fee.
How do I won a chargeback if ever?

Your account will stay on negative balance unless you deposit money then the money will be sent to the dispute winner and alo as far as I know they could withraw from your credit card or bank account or something ...
Only way to win the dispute is to provide evidence of what you are saying , don't email PayPal , you should call them and explain the whole situation .

The buyer have an access to account, but was unable to tweet and then he said that I hacked the account.
The buyer of my account is black mailing me, he said that he will make the situation worse if I didnt give him back the twitter account.
He give me choices, it's either I give him the account or give the money back. My only choice is to give the money back coz' I don't have the access to the account. I'm not the hacker, he is using the account for 3 weeks now he said that I hacked the account.

Will I be put jail if I didnt give back the money? I don't have any money Im bot rich either.



If you are honest about it then no , you aint going to jail , law dosen't work like that .. they should do investigations first and not just assume that he is telling the truth .
Beside in my opinion if anyone is going to jail it's him for blackmailing you (and if you are both from different countries then probably nothing is going to happen , it's not a national security matter .. ) . So do just like I told you , try to call PayPal and explain just like you explained to us right now .

Note : If I were you , he aint getting anything from me .


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: JULIANISAH on September 23, 2015, 02:43:47 PM
I have a buyer on twitter, this day he emailed me that the account was hacked. He's blacklisting me and said that he will open casse to paypal. Im not the hacker and I don't have any access to the sold twitter account.

What will happen If I didn't pay the negative balance to paypal? The buyers payment was not on my hand now, I spend it to my tuition fee.
How do I won a chargeback if ever?

Your account will stay on negative balance unless you deposit money then the money will be sent to the dispute winner and alo as far as I know they could withraw from your credit card or bank account or something ...
Only way to win the dispute is to provide evidence of what you are saying , don't email PayPal , you should call them and explain the whole situation .

The buyer have an access to account, but was unable to tweet and then he said that I hacked the account.
The buyer of my account is black mailing me, he said that he will make the situation worse if I didnt give him back the twitter account.
He give me choices, it's either I give him the account or give the money back. My only choice is to give the money back coz' I don't have the access to the account. I'm not the hacker, he is using the account for 3 weeks now he said that I hacked the account.



Will I be put jail if I didnt give back the money? I don't have any money Im bot rich either.



If you are honest about it then no , you aint going to jail , law dosen't work like that .. they should do investigations first and not just assume that he is telling the truth .
Beside in my opinion if anyone is going to jail it's him for blackmailing you (and if you are both from different countries then probably nothing is going to happen , it's not a national security matter .. ) . So do just like I told you , try to call PayPal and explain just like you explained to us right now .

Note : If I were you , he aint getting anything from me .

Yes, we are from different country. Im honest and Im just afraid because I was just a college student.
We don't have a telephone sir. We are not rich, if the buyer files a chargeback I will not able to call Paypal.
He said that he will make the scenario worse, Im afraid what he will do.
Im just getting myself ready if he didnt recover the acount from the hacker.


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: Vortex20000 on September 24, 2015, 02:31:59 AM
Ignore him. He can't do anything to you. You only need to deal with Paypal.

The moral of this story is DON"T ACCEPT PAYPAL FOR BITCOINS.

He didn't sell bitcoins, you never-read-thead-er.


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: Yoga4 on September 24, 2015, 03:58:14 AM
If the balance stays negative, Paypal will eventually seek out a debt collector to seek an arbitration award in some fashion to recover the funds. In most cases, paypal will give you some time to atleast pay back the negative balance.


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: JULIANISAH on September 24, 2015, 07:09:38 AM
He said he is going to file a case and get his money back. He is using my account for almost 1 month, now he said that I hacked the account. I dont have any idea about hacking, and my paypal balance is 0 and dont have money to give his money back coz I spend it to my tuition fee.
What will happen if I didnt pay the negative balance, we are from different country.


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: Outlander on September 24, 2015, 08:16:30 AM
The buyers are still able to access the twitter account but unable to make any activities, isn't it? My twitter account has the same issue as well. But twitter just ask me to input phone number to activiate it. I alway fail to go through this process. This is the reasons they gave to me https://support.twitter.com/articles/18311


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: knowhow on September 26, 2015, 11:11:06 PM
This is why paypal is loosing costumers becuase the chargeback if you buy something you should know what you are doing ,not after a week or more request the money after read or use the product.


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: JULIANISAH on September 27, 2015, 03:33:49 PM
This is why paypal is loosing costumers becuase the chargeback if you buy something you should know what you are doing ,not after a week or more request the money after read or use the product.

This is my first time to use paypal, I spend money to have a bank account, so I can withdraw money from paypal. Paypal is a messed -_-
It will also be my last that I will use paypal. They didnt protect sellers


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: eternalgloom on September 27, 2015, 05:09:30 PM
This is why paypal is loosing costumers becuase the chargeback if you buy something you should know what you are doing ,not after a week or more request the money after read or use the product.

This is my first time to use paypal, I spend money to have a bank account, so I can withdraw money from paypal. Paypal is a messed -_-
It will also be my last that I will use paypal. They didnt protect sellers
Just make sure you get in touch with support either through e-mail or by calling them.
I wouldn't pay anything and get this sorted asap.


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: Soha on September 28, 2015, 02:07:30 AM
 ::) The first thing you should do now is CUT YOUR CREDIT CARD OFF Paypal
Then if your balance become negative, Paypal still can't do anything stupid to you.
And he won't win the case if you have enough proofs.


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: LouisVuitton on September 28, 2015, 03:54:23 AM
You will be put into negative account balance, and sometimes paypal will issue a debt collector


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: JULIANISAH on October 04, 2015, 11:09:34 AM
You will be put into negative account balance, and sometimes paypal will issue a debt collector

Even if we are from different country? And I was only a victim of scamming?
I dont have the account details on me, I dont have the money also. ANd I dont have the ability to pay that money back. Will I be put in jail?


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: FanEagle on October 04, 2015, 07:00:23 PM
Probably the guy in question is faking to have his account hacked so he can have his money back, and you will see him use that account later. I can smell it.


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: HashBTC on October 04, 2015, 07:39:36 PM
It is very unlikely that you will win the case. You will have to pay the cost and learn from the mistake.


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: Vortex20000 on October 05, 2015, 12:29:05 AM
Whatever it is, call PayPal up. It makes your case stand better, in my experience, if you ring them up and explain exactly what happened over the phone.

Quote the case ID and tell them the whole story. Most likely, they can't help you, but it might just make them leave you alone.

Can't remember if it was the Seller Protection or the Buyer Protection that excluded digital goods.


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: JULIANISAH on October 05, 2015, 09:17:51 AM
Whatever it is, call PayPal up. It makes your case stand better, in my experience, if you ring them up and explain exactly what happened over the phone.

Quote the case ID and tell them the whole story. Most likely, they can't help you, but it might just make them leave you alone.

Can't remember if it was the Seller Protection or the Buyer Protection that excluded digital goods.

Im from philippines. We dont have telephone. I will not pay it.
I lose the account, then I will lose the money? No way.


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: JULIANISAH on October 05, 2015, 12:49:15 PM
The buyers are still able to access the twitter account but unable to make any activities, isn't it? My twitter account has the same issue as well. But twitter just ask me to input phone number to activiate it. I alway fail to go through this process. This is the reasons they gave to me https://support.twitter.com/articles/18311

Did you access your account already after that issue sir?


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: Vortex20000 on October 06, 2015, 12:58:30 AM
Welp, more advice against using PayPal, my account was just limited about 3 hours ago.

"violation of the User Agreement"

"this limitation is not appealable / unappealable"

There we go, a whopping $606 gone.


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: JULIANISAH on October 06, 2015, 04:52:38 AM
Welp, more advice against using PayPal, my account was just limited about 3 hours ago.

"violation of the User Agreement"

"this limitation is not appealable / unappealable"

There we go, a whopping $606 gone.

Whats happening to paypal? Wth


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: angrykoreaman on October 06, 2015, 06:18:13 AM
chargebacks are why bitcoin and altcoins are superior. Hopefully the scared sheeple will wake up and learn to use it.


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: Outlander on October 06, 2015, 07:52:06 AM
The buyers are still able to access the twitter account but unable to make any activities, isn't it? My twitter account has the same issue as well. But twitter just ask me to input phone number to activiate it. I alway fail to go through this process. This is the reasons they gave to me https://support.twitter.com/articles/18311

Did you access your account already after that issue sir?
Yes, a forum member kindly helped my out!


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: lihuajkl on October 06, 2015, 07:54:43 AM
I think at the moment we cannot easily get rid of paypal, bank etc. They are still the most popular and dominating our life. I dreams every merchants are accepting cryptocoins one day. Then paypal and bank have to embrace crytpcoins otherwise they will die.


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: JULIANISAH on October 07, 2015, 11:20:09 AM
The buyers are still able to access the twitter account but unable to make any activities, isn't it? My twitter account has the same issue as well. But twitter just ask me to input phone number to activiate it. I alway fail to go through this process. This is the reasons they gave to me https://support.twitter.com/articles/18311

Did you access your account already after that issue sir?
Yes, a forum member kindly helped my out!

Can you please help me sir?


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: JULIANISAH on October 14, 2015, 08:23:36 AM
My balance become negative now, and what will happen to me if I didnt pay the negative balance on paypal?


Title: Re: PAYPAL
Post by: Anmol_Verma on October 14, 2015, 08:25:43 AM
You will see -ve balance untill you fund your paypal account and to win the chargeback against that user you need to provide the proof to paypal that you are right.Proof can be the chat log between you too.