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Title: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: BitPaisa on September 23, 2015, 04:29:31 PM
I mean, Seriously, We have a growing userbase, Still We are stuck with such designs

We could easily ask a person for designing or even just buy a theme


The forum looks like Windows 98


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: achow101 on September 23, 2015, 04:37:18 PM
A new forum is being built which also looks better than the current theme. I believe Theymos doesn't use other themes because they might mess with the code changes that he has made in SMF for this forum.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: Coinonomous on September 23, 2015, 06:14:57 PM
A new forum is being built which also looks better than the current theme. I believe Theymos doesn't use other themes because they might mess with the code changes that he has made in SMF for this forum.

Does anyone know when and how this new forum will be implemented or have any more info about it? Thanks!


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: coaltin on September 23, 2015, 06:18:30 PM
A new forum is being built which also looks better than the current theme. I believe Theymos doesn't use other themes because they might mess with the code changes that he has made in SMF for this forum.

Does anyone know when and how this new forum will be implemented or have any more info about it? Thanks!

I don't think any such new forum is being built.Its just rumuor that just went off.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: achow101 on September 23, 2015, 06:21:14 PM
A new forum is being built which also looks better than the current theme. I believe Theymos doesn't use other themes because they might mess with the code changes that he has made in SMF for this forum.

Does anyone know when and how this new forum will be implemented or have any more info about it? Thanks!

I don't think any such new forum is being built.Its just rumuor that just went off.
It does exist. The source is available on github. You can also see discussion about it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: bitcoin revo on September 23, 2015, 07:04:05 PM
I don't think any such new forum is being built.Its just rumuor that just went off.

LMAO! Yes, that's why the "New forum software" section is there (and has the description of "Discussion about the new forum software under development").

@OP, the design might look really weird now (I personally thought that as well when I first got here), but you get used to it and now I personally like it.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: snipie on September 23, 2015, 08:51:43 PM
@OP, the design might look really weird now (I personally thought that as well when I first got here), but you get used to it and now I personally like it.
Well i have the same impression now and i think I will start whining about how ugly the new forum will look before I get used to it.
The only problem with the actual one that it isn't a phone friendly..


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: btvGainer on September 23, 2015, 09:02:50 PM
@OP, the design might look really weird now (I personally thought that as well when I first got here), but you get used to it and now I personally like it.

The only problem with the actual one that it isn't a phone friendly..
I visit this forum from mobile every day even now I am posting this reply from my mobile and I dont have any problem


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: bitcoin revo on September 23, 2015, 09:27:22 PM
@OP, the design might look really weird now (I personally thought that as well when I first got here), but you get used to it and now I personally like it.

The only problem with the actual one that it isn't a phone friendly..
I visit this forum from mobile every day even now I am posting this reply from my mobile and I dont have any problem

He means that it isn't mobile friendly; the site appears exactly the same on mobile as it does on computers. However, I don't really have a problem with that since I'm so used to the forum anyways.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: master-P on September 23, 2015, 11:05:53 PM
I honestly don't mind the default SMF theme that much. It's clean and easy on the eyes at least.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: Echye on September 23, 2015, 11:07:17 PM
To me it's fine with its simplicity, and not distracting at all.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: Vod on September 23, 2015, 11:08:34 PM
I honestly don't mind the default SMF theme that much. It's clean and easy on the eyes at least.

I'd want an easy way to indicate I like this comment and agree with it.  Back me up!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=622992.0


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: jacee on September 23, 2015, 11:34:38 PM
I don't have any problem with the current theme. In my case I find it more simple and easy to look at and unlike other forums, I can stay in this forum in a whole day without actually hurting my eyes. (I have some eye issues so simplicity is a friend to me).


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: PolarPoint on September 23, 2015, 11:41:00 PM
This forum serves its purpose, which is a platform to discuss bitcoin. Doesn't need a colourful theme. It's simple and it works.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: onemorexmr on September 23, 2015, 11:49:19 PM
i like the look of the current forum very much
very clean

it just needs some features and better mobile support


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: BurgerKill on September 24, 2015, 12:17:29 AM
This forum serves its purpose, which is a platform to discuss bitcoin. Doesn't need a colourful theme. It's simple and it works.

That's how I feel. Many bright and vibrant forum themes nowadays distract from the content and sometimes hurts my eyes.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: Sir_lagsalot on September 24, 2015, 10:04:00 AM
I've heard bitcointalk's been planning a makeover, which I really think it needs. Take a look at the steam forums, they are beautiful. At least in the top section of the page, make the buttons bigger...


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: ndnh on September 24, 2015, 06:10:45 PM
I think I will miss this look and theme when the new one rolls out.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: redsn0w on September 24, 2015, 06:29:32 PM
bitcointalk.org is good and minimal in my opinion, I love this 'design/theme' but maybe it is only a question of habit.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on September 24, 2015, 07:14:00 PM
I love the current theme absolutely no reason to change.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: tommorisonwebdesign on September 24, 2015, 07:25:43 PM
There is a new forum underway with lots of developers working on the project. I generally am used to posting from my laptop anyway but I genernally prefer it when forum administrators enable the Tapatalk plugin for my phone. I may not like the plane jane look of this forum anyway but to give to programmers at SMF credit, "plane jane" is suitable to any topic, and a theme like this is easily package-able. CakePHP for example comes with a similar plain looking theme that is easy for developers to work with. Customization is key.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: coaltin on September 26, 2015, 04:37:21 AM
I believe a new forum must have a thing from the blockchain may be a blockchain verification so that it is not hacked so easily as this forum has been twice in count.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: Kprawn on September 26, 2015, 10:15:51 AM
I like the uncluttered look of this forum. It's clean and crisp and loads fast enough to give a pleasurable experience for even the novice forum user.

I have seen much worst than this, with crazy pop up ads and vibrant colors that are quite hard on the vision, after a few hours of reading.

I would just like to see a built in multi-currency "Tip button" on this or the new forum.  ;) 


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: acroman08 on September 26, 2015, 11:45:55 AM
I mean, Seriously, We have a growing userbase, Still We are stuck with such designs

We could easily ask a person for designing or even just buy a theme


The forum looks like Windows 98

it looks fine to me they made it like this because to make it easier to use
for new members. unlike other sites with all new flashy animations.
the design is perfect for this forum.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: ranochigo on September 26, 2015, 11:55:29 AM
This forum looks quite clean and sleek, it is much easier to navigate and load on slower devices. The main problem is basically the security issues and lack of features. The new forum have implemented 2FA which can deter hacking attempts and there is a subsection (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0) for suggestions on the new forum.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: NorrisK on September 26, 2015, 02:28:05 PM
It is one of the cleaner forums to me.. I always get confused when browsing those "fancy forums", this one was clear from the start.

How would you want it to look? Do you have an example of a good looking forum?


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: maku on September 26, 2015, 02:42:45 PM
This forum has clear layout, it is minimalistic, easy to navigate, simple and takes little resources to browse.
Seriously this is bitcoin forum it does not have to to graphically stunning to attract teenagers. It is fine as it is imo.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: SerenaL on September 26, 2015, 03:25:09 PM
There is a new forum underway with lots of developers working on the project. I generally am used to posting from my laptop anyway but I genernally prefer it when forum administrators enable the Tapatalk plugin for my phone. I may not like the plane jane look of this forum anyway but to give to programmers at SMF credit, "plane jane" is suitable to any topic, and a theme like this is easily package-able. CakePHP for example comes with a similar plain looking theme that is easy for developers to work with. Customization is key.

I think the admins put more effort into security than a sleek design. The forum is easy to use anyway, no need to over complicate it.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: silverleafy on September 26, 2015, 10:40:00 PM
At first, I really didn't like how the forum looked, but now I'm actually quite fond of how it looks. Well, I would like a graphic update to this forum, but it's really not a problem for me. Though, sometimes it is a pain in the ass to write here on mobile.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: Coinonomous on September 27, 2015, 02:07:30 AM
I love the current theme absolutely no reason to change.

Well isnt' theymos and his creating a whole new platform for this forum ? I heard he spent millions on it? Anyone?


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: shorena on September 27, 2015, 06:37:20 AM
I love the current theme absolutely no reason to change.

Well isnt' theymos and his creating a whole new platform for this forum ? I heard he spent millions on it? Anyone?

Yes, but they dont spend millions on a design. The new forum is supposed to be easily modified and the major changes are on the backend for admins not for users. There is an entire subboard here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0
if you want to read more.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: royalcrypt on September 27, 2015, 06:47:04 AM
I mean, Seriously, We have a growing userbase, Still We are stuck with such designs

We could easily ask a person for designing or even just buy a theme


The forum looks like Windows 98

I don't see anything bad with this theme.

This is most easy on the eyes theme in comparison with other forums.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: Ceizer54 on September 27, 2015, 06:58:29 AM
I like this theme very much because it's light and pages loads faster...i found no reason why we should have new forum design!!


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: jacktheking on September 29, 2015, 10:25:07 AM
I actually like this theme because it is simple. It does not load any unnecessary thing such as animation and what not. It is also very fast.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: Sir_lagsalot on October 17, 2015, 01:33:01 AM
I actually like this theme because it is simple. It does not load any unnecessary thing such as animation and what not. It is also very fast.

Simple? I have to go all the way to my profile to reach my last posts...

One thing that really bothers me is that the "Home, help, search, donate, profile, my messages, members, logout" bar is so small! I can barely click the buttons!


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: bitcoin revo on October 17, 2015, 01:34:42 AM
I actually like this theme because it is simple. It does not load any unnecessary thing such as animation and what not. It is also very fast.

Simple? I have to go all the way to my profile to reach my last posts...

One thing that really bothers me is that the "Home, help, search, donate, profile, my messages, members, logout" bar is so small! I can barely click the buttons!

Like everyone said, it's easy to get used to. At least it's not a huge whopping bar that takes up a fifth of your screen.

And yeah, how else would you propose you reach your last posts?


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: mark coins on October 17, 2015, 01:42:11 AM
I actually like this theme because it is simple. It does not load any unnecessary thing such as animation and what not. It is also very fast.

Simple? I have to go all the way to my profile to reach my last posts...

One thing that really bothers me is that the "Home, help, search, donate, profile, my messages, members, logout" bar is so small! I can barely click the buttons!

the bar size is just fair and normal i think. if its still really so small for you, why dont you try to zoom in? admins cant change that just only because 1 doesnt like it


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: snipie on October 17, 2015, 02:53:37 AM
@OP, the design might look really weird now (I personally thought that as well when I first got here), but you get used to it and now I personally like it.
Well i have the same impression now and i think I will start whining about how ugly the new forum will look before I get used to it.
The only problem with the actual one that it isn't a phone friendly..
I tried to connect in btctalk with uc browser for android and i found a different display which is phone friendly if someone want to take a look.
(with chrome i have to zoom to see the posts in every page but I get used to it after few weeks).


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: SFR10 on October 17, 2015, 03:58:52 AM
In my opinion the design might not look extraordinary but it does the trick, its not the design that matters most but rather the functionality that it hast. The simplicity of current forum theme is simple enough for everyone to understand this forum and I wouldn't mind if the new forum design stays exactly like this as long as it gains more functionality over the course of building it and to add up to that , the simpler the theme the faster the loading time


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: maku on October 17, 2015, 08:09:12 AM
I like current look of bitcointalk, and I don't need any graphical overhaul. Maybe just add some features.
All I want to have is the possibility to revert to our current look when we'll ever had new forum.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: TheGr33k on October 17, 2015, 03:17:47 PM
I mean, Seriously, We have a growing userbase, Still We are stuck with such designs

We could easily ask a person for designing or even just buy a theme


The forum looks like Windows 98

It sounds like you don't know how to appreciate "a classic". Windows 98 wasn't that bad, and neither is the forum design. The growing user-base is almost irrelevant to how the forum looks and we should be primarily focused on security not being pretty.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: gentlemand on October 17, 2015, 05:33:23 PM
Lord knows how convoluted this forum's code has become. It's an unfortunate metaphor for bitcoin itself. Maybe people are too tentative to make mods in case it all unravels. Either way I have no complaints about its style. It gets the job done efficiently.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: phishead on October 17, 2015, 05:37:16 PM
I mean, Seriously, We have a growing userbase, Still We are stuck with such designs

We could easily ask a person for designing or even just buy a theme


The forum looks like Windows 98

It sounds like you don't know how to appreciate "a classic". Windows 98 wasn't that bad, and neither is the forum design. The growing user-base is almost irrelevant to how the forum looks and we should be primarily focused on security not being pretty.

Yeah, honestly.. I couldn't imagine a better design than this as it already is.  It very simple and functions well, which is a good thing. You don't have to have bells and whistles to make people want to come here, the idea is to make it very simple and to allow free flowing conversations to happen about all cryptos.  I personally like it.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: erikalui on October 17, 2015, 06:18:23 PM
It does look dull at times and takes time to load. SMF also has limitations like threads "cannot be merged" and "the inability to turn of notifications to threads we have replied", the new forum is being awaited by me. There is no option like Quick Reply as well and I've suggested many additions for the new forum. Hope that they are considered.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: achow101_alt on October 17, 2015, 10:01:15 PM
It does look dull at times and takes time to load. SMF also has limitations like threads "cannot be merged" and "the inability to turn of notifications to threads we have replied", the new forum is being awaited by me. There is no option like Quick Reply as well and I've suggested many additions for the new forum. Hope that they are considered.
I like the simplistic look. The loading time is unrelated to smf, it has to do with the server it is running on and the webserver software. Also, quick reply is a setting you can turn on. It is under Look and Layout Preferences.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: zcxvbs on October 19, 2015, 04:18:29 AM
There is a new forum underway with lots of developers working on the project. I generally am used to posting from my laptop anyway but I genernally prefer it when forum administrators enable the Tapatalk plugin for my phone. I may not like the plane jane look of this forum anyway but to give to programmers at SMF credit, "plane jane" is suitable to any topic, and a theme like this is easily package-able. CakePHP for example comes with a similar plain looking theme that is easy for developers to work with. Customization is key.

The question is when will the new forum be here? It's was long long time ago when we were talking about the new forum.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: TriggerX on October 19, 2015, 07:33:07 AM
There is a new forum underway with lots of developers working on the project. I generally am used to posting from my laptop anyway but I genernally prefer it when forum administrators enable the Tapatalk plugin for my phone. I may not like the plane jane look of this forum anyway but to give to programmers at SMF credit, "plane jane" is suitable to any topic, and a theme like this is easily package-able. CakePHP for example comes with a similar plain looking theme that is easy for developers to work with. Customization is key.

The question is when will the new forum be here? It's was long long time ago when we were talking about the new forum.

IMO, I like this forum. It's simple and basic concept and I think adding extra things would be overdoing it. I think the design is fine the way it is.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: dothebeats on October 19, 2015, 09:11:50 AM
There is a new forum underway with lots of developers working on the project. I generally am used to posting from my laptop anyway but I genernally prefer it when forum administrators enable the Tapatalk plugin for my phone. I may not like the plane jane look of this forum anyway but to give to programmers at SMF credit, "plane jane" is suitable to any topic, and a theme like this is easily package-able. CakePHP for example comes with a similar plain looking theme that is easy for developers to work with. Customization is key.

The question is when will the new forum be here? It's was long long time ago when we were talking about the new forum.

We're way past the date when theymos said that the new forum would be launch, but no worries though, that wasn't even a deadline as far as I know; that was just a rough estimate given by the devs working on it. Also, it looks kinda neat for me, though I must agree that SMF is kinda slow and buggy at times. Sometimes? It doesn't load at all!


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: Slark on October 19, 2015, 03:29:18 PM
-snip-
Keep calm & wait for new forum ;D
New forum remind me of Half life 3. It has been so long, I wonder if we'll ever see either of these two. But personally I don't care.
Forum is primarily a  tool for conveying information, and it doesn't have to be pretty. It needs to be useful.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: dothebeats on October 19, 2015, 03:58:41 PM
-snip-
Keep calm & wait for new forum ;D
New forum remind me of Half life 3. It has been so long, I wonder if we'll ever see either of these two. But personally I don't care.
Forum is primarily a  tool for conveying information, and it doesn't have to be pretty. It needs to be useful.

Surely Lord Gaben would deliver, also theymos that's for sure. A million dollars of donation that would be lost in void would probably be a center of attraction for months. Also, I don't think theymos would run away with that money. If he would, he did that long before this forum gained popularity in the interwebs.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: Triple on October 19, 2015, 03:59:47 PM
Lmao. I don't think there's any reason to change it. Design is simple, sure but that's what I like about it. No need for fancy stuff when this works just fine.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: edmundduke on October 19, 2015, 04:02:05 PM
Lmao. I don't think there's any reason to change it. Design is simple, sure but that's what I like about it. No need for fancy stuff when this works just fine.

Agreed. I don't see any need to change the design of the forum, its fine the way it is. Design is simple as it should be, no need to "overtune" anything. If they do decide to make a new design i hope the core concept stays the same: Few colors and easily distinguishable sub menus etc.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: StarofBTC on October 19, 2015, 04:09:22 PM
we all know its not too good... But uts also not too bad... Moreover i feel good in it.. The theme is nice too


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: erikalui on October 19, 2015, 05:33:01 PM
It does look dull at times and takes time to load. SMF also has limitations like threads "cannot be merged" and "the inability to turn of notifications to threads we have replied", the new forum is being awaited by me. There is no option like Quick Reply as well and I've suggested many additions for the new forum. Hope that they are considered.
I like the simplistic look. The loading time is unrelated to smf, it has to do with the server it is running on and the webserver software. Also, quick reply is a setting you can turn on. It is under Look and Layout Preferences.

Great thanks. I just enabled it. It should have been on by default.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: Arcteryx on October 19, 2015, 05:36:22 PM
Everything on the internet has to change to keep current. But I don't think this forum feels they have any completion, so they are not in any rush to push anything out this year.
Maybe a New years reveal is on the horizon. Now that would be a cool way to ring in the year.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: TheGr33k on October 19, 2015, 06:51:23 PM
The bitcoin community / zeitgeist has never been geared towards being "graphically friendly" so it's only fitting that the forum feels and looks classic.
It doesn't need bells and whistles because that's not why we're hear and it leaves an opportunity for malicious code to be implemented potentially with each update/upgrade.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: pilscoop on October 20, 2015, 01:33:34 AM
At first I thought the same, like "this looks like it came from 2001" but Iīve gotten used to it and donīt think it needs to change.
The design is simple enough and doesnīt distract you with fancy designs.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: TTMNewsMJ on November 04, 2015, 10:18:55 AM
The current theme is actually good.
We don't need to change because there's no wrong with it.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: the_poet on November 05, 2015, 09:21:26 AM
Guys, if we want the Bitcoin (and BitcoinTalk.org) user base to grow, we need to make this forum more eye-candy. The average Joe is much more likely to join a community, if he sees a beautifully designed website as opposed to an old school one. This is Marketing 101!


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: nickaizoku on November 07, 2015, 09:50:03 AM
This forum design is good and simple. Why need fancy forum? As long community help ;)
just dont know why this forum doesn't have mobile friendly.


Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org Looks so Bad
Post by: TheGr33k on November 09, 2015, 02:29:14 PM
The current theme is actually good.
We don't need to change because there's no wrong with it.
Actually, this is a default layout that most common forums occupy. Same color and set up.