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Title: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: HappyGilmore on September 28, 2015, 02:03:04 AM
What is your vision of this killer app?


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: hamiltino on September 28, 2015, 02:12:19 AM
Bitcoin is already killer in so many ways, why does there always have to be some magical future app that makes bitcoin finally "successful"?


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: MicroGuy on September 28, 2015, 02:21:05 AM
Everything falls apart when there's dissension at the core developmental level. And we're not going to get a killer app until this bug is fixed.

If somehow this problem can be resolved quickly, then as was stated above; Bitcoin itself becomes the killer app.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Possum577 on September 28, 2015, 02:35:40 AM
How about an app where I can buy almost anything (let's call it Amazon.com) and it allows for payment via bitcoin.

Bitcoin is a currency, it doesn't need an app.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: chennan on September 28, 2015, 02:37:10 AM
Personally, I would think that it would be pretty "killer" if bitcointalk had it's own app so the webpage could be converted into a more "mobile friendly" type of format.  Plus it would be nice to have notifications when you get a PM or someone responded to you or something like that; without having to check your emails which could get pretty clogged up with spam mail and the like.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: edric on September 28, 2015, 02:59:21 AM
What is your vision of this killer app?

Purse.io but for anything you want.  I want to order a pizza at 5% off with bitcoins.  This gives is essentially LBC trading instantly and secure too with a middle man escrow service.  Also, if someone created Amazon for bitcoin it could work.  They would save a lot of money on payment processing fees but would have to provide incentives for people to sign up.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: brg444 on September 28, 2015, 03:13:00 AM
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-JD488_centra_G_20150629100714.jpg


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Ceizer54 on September 28, 2015, 03:13:49 AM
i didn't understand you
what do you mean by "Killer" app?


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: phishead on September 28, 2015, 03:17:05 AM
i didn't understand you
what do you mean by "Killer" app?

I think he means that by "killer" he means revolutionary or beneficial to the bitcoin community in general.  Kind of like how "sick" means "cool"... again I'm just assuming here.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Possum577 on September 28, 2015, 03:24:34 AM
i didn't understand you
what do you mean by "Killer" app?

I think he means that by "killer" he means revolutionary or beneficial to the bitcoin community in general.  Kind of like how "sick" means "cool"... again I'm just assuming here.

Phishead, the best app I can think of is a Pscyho Killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

Whatever it is the road will be it's end, it's end is the road...so they say.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: 7788bitcoin on September 28, 2015, 03:27:28 AM
I think a "killer app" will be something that allows you to make payment through bitcoin without even you knowing that bitcoin is being used at all. Something like today's internet which you don't even know what it is but you are using it!


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Herbert2020 on September 28, 2015, 03:48:53 AM
the killer app is going to be a big business or services like Amazon, Ebay, Steam,.... and a lot of other big online shops to start accepting bitcoin as an additional payment method.

they automatically bitcoin would grow and become more and more popular with more people using it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: phishead on September 28, 2015, 03:56:24 AM
i didn't understand you
what do you mean by "Killer" app?

I think he means that by "killer" he means revolutionary or beneficial to the bitcoin community in general.  Kind of like how "sick" means "cool"... again I'm just assuming here.

Phishead, the best app I can think of is a Pscyho Killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

Whatever it is the road will be it's end, it's end is the road...so they say.

WOAAAH possum... great idea!

but what is this graphic translation you speak of?

Hopefully we can find a dev for this new idea, but as for me I'm going to stick to science... I felt that I could help  ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: gentlemand on September 28, 2015, 04:38:23 AM
What is everyone's definition of 'killer app'?

The thing that compels millions of people to get involved? Unless it's some type of absolute no brainer I don't think it'll ever be one single thing. There needs to be cumulative progress in all areas - education, accessibility, utility.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: fox19891989 on September 28, 2015, 05:54:57 AM
IMO bitcoin will be the king of currency if the transaction speed is as fast as doge coin, like 1 minutes block time, that will be awesome, sometimes I send bitcoin and wait for 30 minutes to get 1 confirmation, it is sucks, and 0 confirmation payment would be risky.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Kakmakr on September 28, 2015, 06:11:35 AM
A killer APP in my opinion should be something where people adopt Bitcoin just to use that specific application or service. They did not use Bitcoin before, but that APP enabled them to use it now. In a sense, that was what happened with BackPage.com when other payment processors stopped supporting it as a payment method.

A killer APP must be something that spark mainstream interest and are the only payment method or tool to use this APP or service.  ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Amph on September 28, 2015, 06:24:26 AM
i didn't understand you
what do you mean by "Killer" app?

like whatsapp for messenger, it was something really apprecciated by many, this make it a killer application

there are many other example in the social environment


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: jlauzon on September 28, 2015, 06:36:49 AM
The killer app is the wallet. Putting an interface between fiat and BTC just feeds the thought process that 1 BTC == $x.00 USD - just a commodity.

The POS (point of sale) is the killer app; use BTC like you would paper bills, coins, credit cards. It's got to be a currency to succeed, not a function /conversion of a fiat currency.

I'm not into bitcoin to get rich (if I do, all the better), but to make an attempt to overtake government-issued currency. If they control your money, they control you. The "land of the free..." is the biggest load of shit ever.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Furio on September 28, 2015, 06:53:28 AM
What is your vision of this killer app?

In my vision the killer app consists of trowing some of bitcoin's anonymity options out the door. Purely based on choice. You can register with an layer build on top of Ethereum, which tracks and saves it for anyone to check. Every address you make from that account will be registered to you. That way people can find eachother easy. The masses dont want to donwload a client, donwload a blockchain read into tech shizzle and such. They want to log in and transfer funds to someone they know. Much like a banking apps nowadays. Also this killer app directly has to deliver a significant amount of bitcoin or any crypto for that matter in order to motivate people to actually try it. So not pennies, but tens of dollars at least :)

Most important of all, this all needs to be done with a few clicks, not that people need to download whole blockchains and such :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: alterix on September 28, 2015, 10:48:17 AM
killer app is a great shops like ebay or amazon that supports bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Required Information on September 28, 2015, 11:04:15 AM
Full Confirmation (full node supporting) via Mobile Devices.
SPV clients on the mobile are too risky to use.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Mickeyb on September 28, 2015, 11:26:40 AM
Bitcoin is already killer in so many ways, why does there always have to be some magical future app that makes bitcoin finally "successful"?

Exactly this! We don't need THE killer application. Bitcoin is the killer application by itself. We need to keep developing this technology and make it possible to use in many ways and then let the markets and customers decide what's appropriate use case for them.

Will this be remittances? Or will they use it as a commodity to save part of their fortunes. Will they use it for regular day to day payments or for its semi anonymity purposes. It's up to consumers to decide.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: gentlemand on September 28, 2015, 12:40:10 PM
killer app is a great shops like ebay or amazon that supports bitcoin.

I think we can safely say that's not the case going on current examples. I suppose the definition of killer app would be something that makes someone say 'holy shit. I GOT to get me some of this Bitcoin stuff. It can do something nothing else can'. You can already use your conventional money just fine with merchants.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Pursuer on September 28, 2015, 12:51:02 PM
bitcoin on its own is the killer app. the only thing missing is the fact that it is not yet mass adopted. so the killer app or anything you want to call it is something that can make this come true.
some event, news or whatever which makes bitcoin be used everywhere as an alternative payment method.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Redrose on September 28, 2015, 12:59:52 PM
Local banks even adopt btc and treat bitcoin as fiat. Ppl can deposit and withdraw btc from the bank account digitally.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Q7 on September 28, 2015, 01:54:28 PM
Not sure how I would define a killer app but for me, something useful, convenient plus having user-friendly features would be nice. For example if the app can show me which location within my vicinity where there are stores accepting bitcoin or something that integrates online shopping sites, bitcoin exchangers, everything all into one.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Greentree on September 28, 2015, 01:57:26 PM
Bitcoin is tagged with white coins which can be legally circulated, black coins which are rejected by the network due to that they are from hacking or stealing. Then there is no security issue with bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Guido on September 28, 2015, 02:03:43 PM
It is here imminently

https://www.goabra.com/

http://www.coindesk.com/launch-bitcoin-remittance-abra/
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-to-cash-app-abra-raises-12-million-series-a/

this is the market to disrupt, remittance
worth hundreds of billions annually

so much of world unbanked, refugees, sending money home etc

it will solve the problem of banks not supporting and branches like western union have in place with their astronomical fees

goabra have tellers, street tellers recruiting hundreds/thousands of them!

watch this

plus they just got millions in funding for the btc integration etc and furtherment
this is exciting



Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Gutemberg on September 28, 2015, 02:44:03 PM
I think that the real KILLER app was silk road site at the beginning....after that a lot off app but not as much killer as silk road


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: cellard on September 28, 2015, 02:47:00 PM
This video series is great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nOfHpOFhN8

As you can see there are way too many potential applications for Bitcoin to try to guesstimate what will be the real killer app, so there will be at leas a couple apps that are considered "killer". I think credential wise, voting mechanisms and the money itself are already on this department.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: gentlemand on September 28, 2015, 02:51:00 PM
I think that the real KILLER app was silk road site at the beginning....after that a lot off app but not as much killer as silk road


Agreed. It did everything a killer app should do - enabled something totally new, made BTC the only option to do it and brought attention. I wonder what the equivalent will be for the wider world.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: worhiper_-_ on September 28, 2015, 02:56:15 PM
It might be just me but I'm yet to find a downloadable wallet that I could use to introduce my clueless family to bitcoin. I'd love to send them fractions of coins but there's no application simple enough to help with that. And when I say simple, I mean as simple as it can get. Take skype an an example, when it came out it was the most popular application of it's kind because it oversimplified a process that wasn't accessible to people with very little or no technical knowledge. Some features might have been snipped off, but usability is the same. An equivalent with bitcoin would be forgetting fundamentalism, stripping down everything but receiving/sending bitcoin (and few other things).


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Kprawn on September 28, 2015, 04:07:49 PM
I should think any app like GEMS could be the killer app if it took off on social media. I really wanted Streamium.io to blow Meerkat and Periscope out of the water, when it was

launched, but it turned out to be buggy, to say the least. If the final product was a bit more polished, it would have been the killer application for me.

It seems as though developers are rushing these apps to be the first, but they end up offering below par product, compared to their competition.  ???


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: gentlemand on September 28, 2015, 04:19:11 PM
I should think any app like GEMS could be the killer app if it took off on social media. I really wanted Streamium.io to blow Meerkat and Periscope out of the water, when it was

launched, but it turned out to be buggy, to say the least. If the final product was a bit more polished, it would have been the killer application for me.

It seems as though developers are rushing these apps to be the first, but they end up offering below par product, compared to their competition.  ???

All those apps are kinda cool but there's no shortage of free or much better established alternatives. They're solutions looking for a problem when a killer app has to be the polar opposite.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: addy boy on September 28, 2015, 07:03:40 PM
killer app is the best option for bitcoin killer app saves lot of time with killer app we can pay online in less time we use killer app to pay some shopping sites that is the amazing feature of this app i like killer app very much. in my view killer app is a secure comfortable and fast way to exchange bitcoin to other traders.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: bitpump on September 28, 2015, 08:04:49 PM
Personally, I would think that it would be pretty "killer" if bitcointalk had it's own app so the webpage could be converted into a more "mobile friendly" type of format.

Done.  See:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1194933.0;imode


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: chennan on September 28, 2015, 08:59:58 PM
Personally, I would think that it would be pretty "killer" if bitcointalk had it's own app so the webpage could be converted into a more "mobile friendly" type of format.

Done.  See:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1194933.0;imode

Lol, while that does help the "mobile friendly" aspect of that post... I'm talking about a "user friendly" way to derive that kind of formatting in a "user friendly" setting where someone would just have to login to bitcointalk through a downloaded app that has notification features... It's the thought that counts though. ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: johnyj on September 28, 2015, 09:45:24 PM
Bitcoin kills, quit bitcoin while you still can  :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: maokoto on September 28, 2015, 09:56:23 PM
Well, a killer app might be one that provided a facebook client in such a way that receiving a "like" earned you some satoshis. Then the app could have a "spend your satoshis" section, showing games (or other apps) you could buy with Bitcoin.


Just brainstorming


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Minecache on September 28, 2015, 10:06:11 PM
Bitcoin is already killer in so many ways, why does there always have to be some magical future app that makes bitcoin finally "successful"?
That was not the question. The question refered to a killer app. Not Bitcoin in itself. Personally I believe that a killer app for Bitcoin would be one that brings it securely with ease of use to the masses. At present there are no guarantees that Bitcoin will be successful.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: PolarPoint on September 28, 2015, 10:36:53 PM
The killer app will be a card device which displays the bitcoin balance and will send or receive bitcoins for you without all the fuss of addresses and fees. Paying for something is just tap and verify.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: suda123 on September 28, 2015, 11:36:15 PM
What is your vision of this killer app?

The killer app would probably be a micro chip in your hand, after a lot of propaganda of people getting mugged for there bitcoin. And will allow institutions to shut it off automatically if anything happens.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: johnyj on September 29, 2015, 02:36:03 AM
This one seems to be quite close to a killer app

ERNIT - The Piggy Bank for digital money
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/187482891/ernittm-the-smart-piggy-bank

IMO, it should work exclusively with bitcoin to demonstrate the full potential of bitcoin saving. It should have an easier to read status light similar to battery charging indicator and also the corresponding fiat value indicator, so that child can learn about currency exchange from the beginning  :)



Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: mtnsaa on September 29, 2015, 03:09:48 AM
Ernit looks awesome, it may seem like something just cute but these children are the ones that will demand digital currency and easiness of use in just 3 or 4 years when they enter their teens. I always thought that Bitcoin had a shot of going mainstream via small payments for apps, movies, books and similar. One doesn't really need to associate a credit card with so many sites and services.

As many of others said, I think the companies themselves are the ones that will adopt Bitcoin or not, it doesn't boil down to just an app. There are plenty of chat apps that let you send digital currency, but it will be only when Whatsapp or Skype start using it that it will be truly adopted by the masses.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: brg444 on September 29, 2015, 03:46:00 AM

The Bitcoin killer app in more pictures :

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/09-overflow/20150928_EOD15_0.jpg


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: worhiper_-_ on September 29, 2015, 09:23:20 AM
I think that earnit is more of a joke. Piggybanks always had an appeal to be phisical items where you store small amounjts of money like change. Why create such a thing for electronic transactions? The fees involved and the required trust in the third party that has to come in to store them e-money completely negates the concept of a piggybank for me.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: mtnsaa on September 29, 2015, 06:39:51 PM
Ok, but it's definitely a great way for these new generations to embrace digital currency and think with that mindset. Remember that in 5 years these little boys and girls will demand the same service and experience. Now, I don't think every child will have this piggybot by their bedside table, maybe they sell 10-20k units at most, but it's a nice idea to get new generations involved.

The other demographic is women, if women actually prefer paying with Bitcoin instead of credit cards, then digital currency will be mainstream, possibly surpassing the US dollar. The problem is that Bitcoin is almost a complete opposite! Scanning barcodes? Addresses with 50 characters when we have emails address since the 90s? No refunding?

Honestly no woman or non-tech savvy person will adopt anything like that anytime soon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: johnyj on September 30, 2015, 12:12:14 AM
I think that earnit is more of a joke. Piggybanks always had an appeal to be phisical items where you store small amounjts of money like change. Why create such a thing for electronic transactions? The fees involved and the required trust in the third party that has to come in to store them e-money completely negates the concept of a piggybank for me.

The behavior of small children are changing due to the mass adoption of tablets and smart phones, now even 3 year old is playing around with a tablet all the time. They grow up in a digital world so it is natural to use digital money, just like in any game

A bitcoin hardwallet should be the right equipment for this kind of piggybank, it works exactly like a piggybank, your bitcoin only exists in this hardwallet. But if many children start to use it, the transaction capacity should be a concern, so only large saving is practical due to fee (But it is easier to understand fee instead of inflation)

Following the same thought, you can have a piggybank for pensioners, where they buy 1 bitcoin each month for their retirement saving account, and the return of that piggybank will be 16% per year guaranteed. With a good fund manager, the return can even reach 30% per year, so that early retirement is achievable at ease. The fund should be accessed by multi-sig to reduce the risk


Title: Re: Bitcoin's KILLER app
Post by: Furio on October 04, 2015, 08:53:06 AM
I think that earnit is more of a joke. Piggybanks always had an appeal to be phisical items where you store small amounjts of money like change. Why create such a thing for electronic transactions? The fees involved and the required trust in the third party that has to come in to store them e-money completely negates the concept of a piggybank for me.

The behavior of small children are changing due to the mass adoption of tablets and smart phones, now even 3 year old is playing around with a tablet all the time. They grow up in a digital world so it is natural to use digital money, just like in any game

A bitcoin hardwallet should be the right equipment for this kind of piggybank, it works exactly like a piggybank, your bitcoin only exists in this hardwallet. But if many children start to use it, the transaction capacity should be a concern, so only large saving is practical due to fee (But it is easier to understand fee instead of inflation)

Following the same thought, you can have a piggybank for pensioners, where they buy 1 bitcoin each month for their retirement saving account, and the return of that piggybank will be 16% per year guaranteed. With a good fund manager, the return can even reach 30% per year, so that early retirement is achievable at ease. The fund should be accessed by multi-sig to reduce the risk

Pensions tied together with a brand new, way ahaed of its time crytpocurrency. I'm a strong advocate of crypto, but putting pensions in a coin that may or may not be overtaken by a technological superiour blockchain, doesnt seem like a good idea to me. Offcourse its also possible that it will reach 1000 or maybe even 50.000 euro's/dollars, the exact opposite is also a strong possibility.

Bitcoin and the blockchaintechnology is still in a much to juvenile state, it must first grow up and evolve...