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The new Hive proof-of-work mining algorithm is a combination chain of shabal, blake, keccak along with the Pomelo Password Hashing Algorithm.[whitepaper] (https://password-hashing.net/submissions/specs/POMELO-v3.pdf)


* Features

  Hive Algorithm:

• Efficiency through large memory usage.
• Proficient against low memory attacks.
• Strong against cache timing attacks.
• Geared against strong attacks by GPU usage.
• ASIC or FPGA attacks resistant .

  Schnorr Signature Validation:
   Principal Investigator: Patrick Strateman

  Instead of DER-encoded ECDSA signatures over the secp256k1 curve, the CHECKSIG and related operators now use densely packed Schnorr signatures over the same curve.
   The advantages are:

• Efficient threshold signatures for n-of-n. Multiple Schnorr signatures can be combined to end up with a signature valid for the sum of the public keys, so arbitrarily large n-of-n multisig can be done by only communicating the single sum signature, which can be verified with a single CHECKSIG operation.
• Smaller signatures (64 bytes instead of 71-72) with none of the problems that DER encodings have caused for Bitcoin. Potential support for batch validation (up to a factor 2 speedup to verify groups of 32 signatures at once). This requires knowing the R.y coordinate (ECDSA ignores this) and at the script level, guaranteeing that all signature verification failure results in script failure (i.e., all CHECKSIG operators behave like CHECKSIGVERIFY). Stronger security proof.
• Provably no inherent signature malleability, while ECDSA has a known malleability, and lacks a proof that no other forms exist.
• Slightly faster to sign/verify than ECDSA.

* Hive Distribution

  PoW

• 1,000,000 HIVE for the first 10,000 PoW blocks with 100 HIVE each being mined during the first week followed by 1 HIVE PoW rewards indefinitely.
• Block time is 60 seconds.
• Difficulty re-target is 60 Minutes.

  PoS

• 200,000 HIVE for the first 20,000 PoS blocks with 10 HIVE being staked during the first two weeks followed by 1 HIVE PoS rewards indefinitely.
• Stake minimum age is 4 hours.

* Wallet
  Windows
  https://bitbucket.org/HIVEcryptocoin/hive/downloads/hive-qt.zip (https://bitbucket.org/HIVEcryptocoin/hive/downloads/hive-qt.zip)
  Source
  https://bitbucket.org/HIVEcryptocoin/hive (https://bitbucket.org/HIVEcryptocoin/hive)
* Mining

 CPU-miner: https://bitbucket.org/HIVEcryptocoin/cpuminer-hive

  Mining Pool

* Roadmap
   TBA

wrong link... no access to source

So you did an audit on the code for exploits?

Yes, and everything is clean now.

All orphans  :(

Unfortunately the same slow block download times

few confirmed

Its normal because the starting diff is very low for this algo that why on the start there will be too many orphans until the blockchain correct to the highest chain.

it is normal to a point but with 3 connections 1 bloc/ second is very low. this should be tweaked if the coin  reaches some popularity there is something wrong with the block broadcasting time

So is it totally GPU resistance  ???

for now...

01:23:22

getblockhash 250


01:23:22

ce44353c2c180314215040a666bf26f8b319ca0553ad0b50ecfe6ec70943aea6

I'm working on a stand-alone CPU miner, will upload shortly. hopefully we get some pools.

Great! Will turn on my dad's PC too  :P ;D

Why are you relaunching this?

coz the other one was a virus

To test new algo I guess...  :)

F this coin. I lost an entire day restoring backups on rigs for this crap trojan coin. Why bother? Let it die already.

Already hit 7 blocks on amd fx-9590

Having fun with this one

edit:  just hit number 8 :D

diff is for pool now.... miner  ???

Solomining is still very possible...have patience!  You'll hit a block or two

CPU-miner: https://bitbucket.org/HIVEcryptocoin/cpuminer-hive

Not fully tested, needs some tweaks, please contribute. i hope someone compile the windows binary.


usage: ./cpuminer -a hive -o URL -u USER -p PASS

Authors do plan on trading platform?

So I guess there is no way how to get coin from old HIVE to new one, right?
This begins from the scratch, ok?

do a good deed please
compile the miner for Windows

Is it better than mining directly from wallet?

yes

** cpuminer-multi 1.2-dev by Tanguy Pruvot (tpruvot@github) **
BTC donation address: 1FhDPLPpw18X4srecguG3MxJYe4a1JsZnd

[2015-09-29 09:46:00] Unknown algo parameter 'hive'
Try `cpuminer-multi --help' for more information.


rpcport ?

any example  hive.conf for connect cpu-miner ?

You talk as if anyone looking at the thread is a paralyzed animal.. Sounds like you should take your issue up via private message.

Any pool?

Compile miner for windows please...

hive is not supported here.. it is also missing in the "algo" directory

Lets see how this coin works out :D

i'm solo mining using the miner in my wallet ( dont know how to solo mine with a standalone miner, yeah its sad but i never works for me ) till we got a pool :D

Yes, i forgot to rename the x11.c file to hive.c as i edited and replaced it . ;D

Windows version please!

Unfortunately neither version is compiling for me under linux ... Very weird errors

Let me check.

Attention, be careful.
Purse old version stole my computer with BTC wallet a little more than 1 coin

A Windows version would be much appreciated.  :-*

Please check now, its working i did 2 tests compiles on 2 clean Linux boxes , it was the find and replace that caused to replace some x11 values in some files.

Last version:

** cpuminer-multi 1.2-dev by Tanguy Pruvot (tpruvot@github) **
BTC donation address: 1FhDPLPpw18X4srecguG3MxJYe4a1JsZnd

[2015-09-29 14:44:37] Unknown algo parameter 'hive'
Try `cpuminer-multi --help' for more information.

Do, git pull, whats the output of ./cpuminer --help ?

[/quote]

Do, git pull, whats the output of ./cpuminer --help ?
[/quote]

Done git pull

./cpuminer -help
** cpuminer-multi 1.2-dev by Tanguy Pruvot (tpruvot@github) **
BTC donation address: 1FhDPLPpw18X4srecguG3MxJYe4a1JsZnd

Usage: cpuminer-multi [OPTIONS]
Options:
  -a, --algo=ALGO       specify the algorithm to use
                          scrypt       scrypt(1024, 1, 1) (default)
                          scrypt:N     scrypt(N, 1, 1)
                          sha256d      SHA-256d
                          axiom        Shabal-256 MemoHash
                          blake        Blake-256 (SFR)
                          blakecoin    Blakecoin
                          blake2s      Blake-2 S
                          bmw          BMW 256
                          c11/flax     C11
                          cryptolight  Cryptonight-light
                          cryptonight  Monero
                          dmd-gr       Diamond-Groestl
                          drop         Dropcoin
                          fresh        Fresh
                          groestl      GroestlCoin
                          heavy        Heavy
                          keccak       Keccak
                          luffa        Luffa
                          lyra2re      Lyra2RE
                          lyra2rev2    Lyra2REv2 (Vertcoin)
                          myr-gr       Myriad-Groestl
                          neoscrypt    NeoScrypt(128, 2, 1)
                          nist5        Nist5
                          pluck        Pluck:128 (Supcoin)
                          pentablake   Pentablake
                          quark        Quark
                          qubit        Qubit
                          shavite3     Shavite3
                          skein        Skein+Sha (Skeincoin)
                          skein2       Double Skein (Woodcoin)
                          s3           S3
                          x11          X11
                          x13          X13
                          x14          X14
                          x15          X15
                          zr5          ZR5
  -o, --url=URL         URL of mining server
..................
........................

Are you sure its https://bitbucket.org/HIVEcryptocoin/cpuminer-hive , i did compile and run again and all working !

Working here thanks.

no windows miner no pool  ???

Thanks for confirming that!


unfortunately, I'm having trouble compiling for windows.

Pool on the way I think. I gave up trying to compile the daemon but i'm sure ocminer will have more luck.

MMh nope, cannot get it to work with this Pomelo thing .. No idea what exactly isn't working, i'm giving up for now as I got a lot of stuff todo.

Working. Thanks.


rpcport= ?

rpcport=18181

You can set your own port using hive.conf

whats the problem, maybe i can help ?

Not sure, it seems diff is too high even though i've already 1/65536'd it and no shares are being accepted/transmitted..

My module is here:

https://github.com/ocminer/hivecoin-hash

it should be ok though

We need a pool.

Quick question:

I got some old Hive coins. Can i use this as new Hive coins?

My old coins are stuck at empoex now.

is this based on blackcoin ?
will try to mine with laptop hope it won't burn

https://i.imgur.com/kDA1brP.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/Tb73KLb.png

Not conclusive.. but glad they didn't match.

my Hive wallet shows block 2696 now, is it correct?

2820

POS eating blocks

more nodes?

addnode=109.98.4.75
addnode=159.203.88.80
addnode=24.254.138.75
addnode=46.72.99.51
addnode=82.66.55.40
addnode=106.184.5.237
addnode=221.229.22.235
addnode=176.205.219.55
addnode=106.3.230.177
addnode=104.238.169.82
addnode=113.167.196.164
addnode=178.130.36.81
addnode=24.89.45.196
addnode=14.167.172.167
addnode=183.16.199.193
addnode=183.57.42.177
addnode=54.187.131.248
addnode=85.214.153.21
addnode=121.229.147.13
addnode=84.110.80.85
addnode=59.46.101.40
addnode=37.218.143.254
addnode=46.174.194.107
addnode=108.61.103.113
addnode=77.131.12.65
addnode=91.211.46.3
addnode=5.136.147.195
addnode=2.50.178.64
addnode=45.55.34.105
addnode=188.166.112.161
addnode=104.236.225.3
addnode=54.149.252.47
addnode=79.103.177.230
addnode=93.183.212.222
addnode=5.251.112.221
addnode=91.134.53.161
addnode=85.255.233.89
addnode=212.112.119.140
addnode=222.217.132.61
addnode=104.238.169.148
addnode=80.56.214.86
addnode=31.29.6.131
addnode=193.90.105.180
addnode=74.66.86.127
addnode=195.209.99.5
addnode=109.189.198.251
addnode=217.156.83.102
addnode=83.20.177.248

Just curious, why are some of those the same ones posted in the original HIVE thread at launch?

same miners... ^

I'm compiling cpuminer for windows but I'm still having a problem with pthread  :o

Any ETA for the pool?

Soooo whats holding you back from answering this question?

Totally new blockchain.  Your old coins are gone.  He said this in the OP if you read.

"Please note, this is a total relaunch and takeover of the coin, no virus no shit, make sure to remove the old hive blockchain folder and wallet if any."

Thanks!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D4WO0mirjlQ

While we're all solo mining, a quick question.

Does setgenerate true work, as in will it produce coins? I noticed that when I hit the Solo Mine button it's only using about 10% CPU and I got 400HVE after ~20 hrs mining. If I put setgenerate true 16 (dual 8 core Xeon machine) the CPU goes to 99% but I'm yet to see any coins come in. It's only been running 30mins so far though..

Yes, it works. I use setgenerate true 7 for my 8core AMD and found 15 blocks in about 20 hours.
But today the difficulty must be higher, or POS eats too much blocks. I have found nothing in about 2 and a half hours.

Oops! Here is my first for today coming  :) You bring me luck.

Thanks. I think you've stolen my luck though, 2 hours now with 16 cores and no blocks!

Probably I stole your luck  :D  Here's another one block for me while I was playing Left 4 Dead 2 (in the same computer).

finally my laptop made a block
left 4 dead 2 ?? new ? i played 1 long time ago was fun

The good old one...
It uses only 2 cores, so the others are Left 4 Mining while playing  ;)

this Pomelo Password Hashing Algorithm was written by Hongjun Wo, a doctor at NTU Singapore
quite impressive!

anyone want to buy 200 coins ?
what price ?

not me  :D, i mined 2k

Any luck on the standalone cpu miner?

you can mine with your CPU, just go to console, type "setgenerate true"

The windows binaries are pain in the ___ , for now you can use the wallet 'setgenerate true' or compile and run the cpuminer on Linux.

Is the standalone miner more efficient than the built in one?

I know this...that's why I said "standalone".

This would give the little guy a chance in pool mining.

Meh, well thanks for looking at it.


Any plans for this coin?  Or are you just launching it to test algo?

Same question.
Exchanges?

strange
i closed wallet yesterday so it won't overheat laptop while i'm not at home
and today whatever i try wallet can't connect

Same here. I'm stuck on block 6248 with 2 connections. I was thinking that the problem is on my side because some other sites don't open too.

i got the same issue

EDIT : 2 connections again now.

Added these nodes to config file already but only 1 or 2 connected, almost 1

11 connections without conf file

can you post nodes list

193.198.102.32
178.130.36.81
161.53.40.94
82.66.55.40
49.71.95.203
183.16.188.80
5.136.188.180
212.97.7.58
158.181.230.168
46.72.99.51
68.185.245.51
183.57.42.177

Can someone tell me what happened to old HIVE?

Windows wallet contained a trojan/malware so a new dev cloned it and released clean wallets. Then he went quiet.  ;)

and who is the guy who took over ?
always funny when providential dev appears out of nowhere...

Hello,

From this $HIVE thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1194096.msg12573515#msg12573515


And from the other $HIVE thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1195709.msg12575319#msg12575319


Which thread is the good one now?

This thread

Any further plans for this takeover dev?

new wallet with new virus, then start over with a new thread and a new take over with an anonymous newbie account...

Are you getting this thread mixed up with the original?

Hey dev, what are your intentions?  We all just fucking around mining this or do you have some plans for the coin?

What's up with this?

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21532367/why-does-git-works-but-git-does-not (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21532367/why-does-git-works-but-git-does-not)

I have some long term plans and i'm working on it.

Cool.  That's all I wanted to hear.

What kind of hashrate are you guys producing?

I'm getting about 67 h/s on fx 9590 using 7 cores to mine.

You can find your hashrate in the debug log file.  Please report in thread!  

Edit:  Using 8 cores I pull about 80 h/s

I'm getting around 70 h/s using 8350 on stock speeds

Use git clone https://bitbucket.org/HIVEcryptocoin/hive

Need block explorer now. And please explain about block reward 10 and 1, today i found some blocks but reward only 1 :(

EDIT : Block over 10000
int64_t nSubsidy = 1 * COIN;

    if(nHeight <= 10000)
    {
   nSubsidy = 100 * COIN;
    }
    else
    {
   nSubsidy = 1 * COIN;
    }

sell  5K  = 0.3BTC  PM me

sell  25K  = 1.3BTC  PM me

still can't connect and sync with network
thats too bad because i could get more coins

That's really strange... I usually have 60+ connections pretty quickly

I've deployed a new seed node : 45.32.239.226

Proving even "hero" members can be idiots.  ::)


Rewards exactly as laid out in the first post.

The wording in the OP is a little confusing...leads one to believe that there will be 10,000 PoW blocks.

The supply will actually be a lot less than stated in the OP.

100 HIVE PoW blocks ended on block 10,000 and 10 HIVE PoS blocks end at 20,000.

Maximum stupid? Igortek  ;D

a wallet using 100% of your cpu with only 2 peers has no future... seems even worst than axiom

if a cpu miner can only do 100H/s, that means the wallet can also only accept 100 blocks max per second (during sync), and its worst than that

Its what i call a cpu resistant algo :p well... not efficient

The funny thing is you still are going to have people mining it, and asking "when exchange?". Hoping against hope that they have stumbled across the next big thing. Even though the original release contained a virus, and even though there is a good chance it is the same dev for both the original and the takeover.

I have over 60 peers...and the hashrate is irrelevant because there are PoS and PoW blocks.


My wallet syncs pretty quickly....not the fastest but not the slowest by any means.

Is this the next big thing?  Probably not...  but I had a good time finding some blocks with my cpu.

Dev said he has some kind of plans...just waiting to see what happens

smh


Not even going to respond to the fact that the original wallet contained a virus, and the "new dev" has made no effort to deny that he is same person?


https://i.imgur.com/DwJA5jA.png

Takeover dev are you also the dev of the original Hive?

If you have a more established account it might help with credibility.

Taken a few days ago. Original dev's Local Time two hours ahead of the takeover dev.

https://i.imgur.com/kDA1brP.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/Tb73KLb.png

Taken a few minutes ago. Tianhe dev also two hours ahead of the takeover dev.

https://i.imgur.com/7vtYOLF.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/eR317gg.png

That proves absolutely nothing considering that can be changed on the profile page. Keep hoping though guys........

You've provided no evidence either though. There are hundreds of people here who are capable of cloning code, mining a new genesis block and compiling a Windows wallet. Re-releasing with a clean wallet doesn't fit with the original dev's MO of breaking into people's systems. To me it seems more likely the takeover dev is someone who was enjoying mining the first one. But youre right I think this is something the new dev should at least address.

Tell me please how should I configure and correctly run cpuminer? Should I register somewhere? How start it? :(

I see "dev" is loged . He should answer you  :)

don't bother
this coin is bug and shouldn't get to exchanges
takes 100% CPU even when not mining, even after finished sync

Lol, it takes 0% on my i7 when not mining.
Check your PC dude, seems like you are in the botnet  ;D

not at all, but unknown dev coming out of nowhere to take over the coin after a day... so this is fishy...  ;D

that's good to be naïve but usually no one does takeover over coin which are 1 day old... think about it.
If you believe in good Samaritan helping the coin after a day of existence, prepare yourself losing lots of money...
This is wild west crypto...  

I think you misunderstand me, I'm not saying someone did this out of the kindness of their hearts. Maybe they have several machines with good processors and so knew they would get a lot of the mining rewards. What I am saying is that the dev of the original dev gains nothing by relaunching the coin with a clean windows wallet so it seems more likely to be someone else. I thought of relaunching myself as it was fun to mine.

does it even matter if dev is original dev or a new dev, or a scammy dev ?
shitcoin either way

It is you that has no proof.  Only speculation.

We don't have proof either... just speculating.

HIVE is probably a scam...  but you've been around here a while so you know how the game goes.  

Hell...CRAVE was a huge scam.  But people made a lot of money by exiting at the right time.  

Shitcoin or not.... just about all coins are these days.  I'm always looking for the next CRAVE. 

Why are you even arguing, when the "dev" has not even responded to these allegations? Are you part of it?

I'm not arguing with some fool in a forum.  I openly admitted this was probably a scam.  I think it's sketchy too.  But I know too little at this point to point fingers.

Because you made such a hilarious meme for me, here's one for you: 

https://i.imgur.com/JS7Z6QC.jpg

Calm the fuck down Chicken Little!

The problem with posting proof or circumstantial evidence of a scam, is it gives the scammer an idea of what to avoid doing on his next scam so he will not be caught.

In the crypto world, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a fucking duck. People should just take it at that.

I'm leaving this thread for now. Not cause I do not feel like arguing the point with you (we can continue this in pms if you want). But because this scam does not need all of these free bumps. It makes people think it is more popular than it is.

I want to sell 7500 HIVE. PM me your offer  :)

sell  5K HIVE  PM ME  ;D ;D

sell  3K HIVE  PM ME

Not selling anything! Do not PM me!!!

 :D

what site we can exchange??   ??? ??? ???

Thank you!

Hive is dead?

Well the thread doesn't seem very active.

It was never alive...still enjoyed cpu mining a coin.  Always a good time.

Dev hasn't even logged in since the 8th though

Nice. Nodes?

version wallet? nodes?  wallet no sincr

False alarm. HIVE ICO : http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=10881.0

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