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Kremlin says vote refers to use of air force and does not mean Russian ground forces will be involved in conflict

Vladimir Putin has received permission from parliament for Russian forces to take place in bombing raids in Syria, two days after the Russian leader spoke to the UN and called for an international coalition against terrorism to fight Islamic State.

The federation council, Russia’s upper house of parliament, held a swift, closed session on Wednesday morning in which it unanimously approved Putin’s request.

Putin said in New York that Russia would not carry out ground operations in Syria, and his chief of staff, Sergei Ivanov, emphasised this again on Wednesday, saying the request to the federation council referred exclusively to airstrikes. He did not give any figures of the number of planes likely to be involved or the number of Russian military specialists on the ground inside Syria to back up the operation.

Fox News reported on Wednesday that Russian officials have sent an official demand for US planes to exit Syrian airspace immediately, as a number of Russian officials described western airstrikes in the region as illegal.

“You all know well that in the territory of Syria and Iraq … a number of countries are carrying out bombing strikes, including the United States,” said Ivanov. “These actions do not conform with international law. To be legal they should be supported either by a resolution of the UN security council, or be backed by a request from the country where the raids are taking place.”

Ivanov said the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, had asked Russia for military assistance, making Russia’s actions legitimate

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/30/russian-parliament-grants-vladimir-putin-right-to-deploy-military-in-syria

Dont think War or Military Deployment is the solution for the on-going crises. UN should play active role to end the crises. Thanks

I agree with you but it seems that UN  is unable to carry out any active policy in the Middle East because of disagreements between the main political forces in the Security Council.
Russia and America should agree and act together in Syria, this is the only way to end the conflict and chaos in Syria.
Unfortunately, it seems that now it is not a realistic option.

The best solution would be a United Nations peace-keeper force in Syria. But none of the warring sides are in favor of that idea, and the Americans are opposed to it as well. Another issue is that since Syria is such a Risky region, very few of the UN member nations are likely to send their troops for the peacekeeper operations in that country.

Afghanistan 2.0 back to ussr

Yes I think Syria will become new battle field for Russia and US to test their military power against each other as they did decades ago in Afghanistan

won't take long until they officially deploy ground troops

Afghanistan 2.0 is ongoing in Afghanistan itself, and USA is fighting instead of the former Soviet Union. The Soviet defeat in Afghanistan was solely due to the fact that NATO supplied advanced anti-air weapons (such as Stinger missiles) to the Islamists. Without these American weapons and military trainers, the Soviets would have swept the floor with the Islamists.

"Army of Islam" which is funded by Saudi Arabia, has declared war on Russia

The war was actually declared long back in 1979 (with the help of the United States and NATO), when the Soviet Union decided to send troops to Afghanistan, in order to protect the Communist government there. The recent Russian air-raids in Homs and Hama are just a continuation of what has been going on for the past 36 years.

To a certain degree, Russia and USA agreed. US military tops called Russian colleagues and did some coordination over telepresence on the 1st of October. That may not have made it to the US news. Also, Russia is acting in Syria within the UN mandate, and, more importantly, on the official request from the legitimate government of Syria.

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In the latest edition of "News of the Week" with Dmitrij Kiseljov (Russian journalist under Western sanctions for NOT telling lies), he very accurately described Russian position on Syria: "USA is far away, while Russia has to live in this hemisphere. If the Islamic terrorists conquer Syria, their resources will be freed up to mount an attack on Russia. It is therefore in Russian existential interests to eradicate ISIS before it takes root and spreads to the Russian borders."

To add to that, yesterday Germany extradited to Russia a terrorist harking from North Ossetia, who underwent training in ISIS camps in Syria, which target terrorists for operations on Russian territory. North Ossetia still remembers the terrorist attack in Beslan, so terrorists are frowned upon. If anyone wonders how that terrorist turned up in Germany, my guess is: with the wave of "refugees".

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And as usual, a very good step-by-step unbiased (ok, maybe only slightly biased) analysis of the situation by Lada Ray:

https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/10/01/russia-strikes-isil-isis-positions-in-syria-what-does-it-mean/
 
Two points pertaining concerns in this thread:

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And, of course, this:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/09/28/putins-full-speech-at-2015-unga-do-you-realize-what-kind-of-monster-youve-created/

With a reference to this:

Full text of the interview: http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/50380

Rose is so painting himself into a corner with every question. Take, for example, this:


Two fun articles to read about this interview:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-28/kunstler-rages-perhaps-america-has-gotten-what-it-deserves
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=23216

This is inevitable, if the ISIS gains a foothold in either Syria or Iraq. There are at least 3,000 Russian citizens fighting alongside the ISIS (mostly Chechens) and there are thousands more from Central Asian nations such as Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. Also, there are reports that the Islamic Movement of Central Asia (IMCA) is trying to merge with the Islamic State.

Yeah I agree with you.  I think it will be a way tosee who has what and what a possible outcome maybe between Russia and the US.

If the US were in Russia's position ... anyone who presents themselves as a threat to military operations ... would be attacked ... in order to secure air and ground operations.

I think the ISIS are losing a bit of steam, they're getting caught in the middle of a battle between two super powers, and meanwhile they're still executing people for believing in the same god.

In the spirit of "Use the Source, Luke", and to offset for some of the selective reporting and misrepresentation, that I've seen in MSM, here is a link to the full transcript of President Putin's speech at UNGA:

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/50385


And I have some news regarding Syria later today.

War is not going to end the crises. UN should actively engage with the Syria govt to resolve the issue.

ONU 27Th April 2011 ->  At the United Nations, a resolution of the Security Council condemning the crackdown was blocked by Russia, which considers that the situation in Syria "does not constitute a threat to international peace and security."

... What is the threat now ? Oil price ?

Agree. And at least Russia is doing just that - cooperating with Syrian government. On the other hand, military operations are needed to mop up the mess others created. Another such mess was ended by Russia/USSR exactly 70 years ago. ;)

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Today is the 5th day of Russian aerial assistance to the Syrian army in their common fight against Islamic terrorists of ISIS.

Today's results are: 3 stores of munitions, 4 command centres and a base of the terrorists have been destroyed.

Below is an article containing several videos, as Russian military operates in full transparency.
http://www.aif.ru/society/army/samolety_vks_rossii_udarili_po_8_obektam_igil_v_provincii_idlib

Yesterday another ISIS command centre was destroyed, which several groups of terrorists laid down weapons and surrendered to the Syrian authorities. Several other groups abandoned their positions and started escaping North in the direction of Turkey and Europe (the choice of direction is thought-provoking).

And the day before yesterday a camouflaged munitions and explosives factory used by ISIS was destroyed.

Now, stating the obvious, if the American goal of bombing Syria for the past year was to eradicate terrorists, you'd expect USA celebrating such advances. But no. The goal was always, as Obama stated, to overthrow yet another legitimate government in the Middle East.

Russia's progress is so spectacular so far, that USA is in full panic mode. Chief of Pentagon Carter said today that Pentagon will do everything it can (including military force) to oppose Russia in its fight with terrorism in Syria. (Remember how USA supplied Taliban with Stingers, which lead to slowing down and then negating an initially successful Soviet fight against Taliban terrorists in Afghanistan?)

http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201510051506-x7gc.htm
http://russian.rt.com/article/120768

Also, NATO is calling for an extraordinary meeting, while the chief of NATO issues a warning, saying that Russian actions in Syria puts it at odds with NATO.

http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2015/10/05/n_7670837.shtml?

In other words, both NATO and USA have openly and officially stated their allegiance with and support of the Islamic terrorists of ISIS. That's the only way to interpret such statements.

Meanwhile, Russian military ship "Cesar Kunikov" entered Mediterranean sea with a shipment of munitions and supplies to the Syrian army.

http://lenta.ru/news/2015/10/05/vmf/

Russia also sends humanitarian / medical / refugee camping aid to Syria. Its aim is to allow Syrians, who were displaced by ISIS to stay in Syria and not flee the country, with the goal of rebuilding the country once ISIS is defeated.

How long, Vladimir, will you go on abusing our patience? You don't understand the meaning of article 4&5 of NATO? THE EMPIRE Doesn't need NATO, don't forget Japan, ural-altai area would be useful, and a good occasion to make a lasting peace with China...

surrender.

Remember when you see Her like this :

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/81/Statue_of_Liberty_from_ferry.JPG/675px-Statue_of_Liberty_from_ferry.JPG

She doesn't wear her Mask of War. You will only see it once...


this is what russia has become under this man... I keep Barack (and who knows what game he maybe playing, diffusing potential problem, what ever)

It's not about the regime of Obama or the presidency of Assad or the balancing act of Putin. It's about standing up to the dark forces that strive to destroy the last vestiges of international law and to violate and abolish the notion of sovereign states.

As for NATO, it long ago morphed into what can be described as a North-American Terrorist Organisation - it's last transformation happened when it violated the sovereignty of Yugoslavia, bombed that country into oblivion, killing and displacing hundreds of thousands of Serbs in the process. Iraq, Afghanistan, Tunis, Lybia, Egypt, and now Syria are just continuations of that unchecked aggression from USNATO.

dear Nemo1024,

I would like so much to answer you. I have no intention to impose anything on you. However I wouldn't feel free to express myself honestly if:

1) you tell me that you aren't in relative safety somewhere far away from Moskow (even if you use pigeons to send your message to the first outpost to be posted here)

2) or that you understand what may come, and I don't want to lie to you, it's tragic. And I reformulate, if you have no problem to be in the biggest, longest, hardest frontline in the world and accept the consequences that may include loss of life (lives) and total destruction of what you know.

if you aren't ready (by 1 or 2), I don't feel right now, ready to answer your little talk point... (after 1024 comes 2048 to tell you the spirit).

I hope to be able to read a direct / or between the line answer.

kindly (remember it's not personal).

(p.s. let's not fool ourselves, it's E^X (about the 1024).

You have, are right, so right, but who said that the so called terrorists have to be asymmetrically weaker? it's a tenet that will be proved to you wrong, maybe as soon as tomorrow morning.

And you are so wrong, you don't want to accept that in Crimea russia had solid foundation, it's the same for the Sunnah. Russia chose to enter a war that started 1436 years ago (if it's the date of the death following this utmost act of violence on a Woman pbuh).

I know that you want to reattach yourself to what you call "civilized" (aka the banning of a plant is enough to prove the barbarism) but it's way bigger. It's so big that you can't wrap your mind around the fact that by choosing a side in the longest war on Earth, russian territories and I include Crimea have entered it.

America never entered this war. America was attacked. Ask for a man, that couldn't be given. there was no choice, but to move in and create a second front (mountains were too well chosen by said enemy).

However Putin chose to enter the war. Then you can rationalize how you want. Never forget to add a lot of non-atlantic buddies... disposing too of Continent size economies... but it's not relevant.

International law wasn't made to preserve and defend bloody murders. you can lie has much as you want it's even irrelevant. it's the one fortold. and as long as you will not let the Safavids and the Nusairis go you will be dragged, deeper, stronger and faster in a world that you don't understand.

but how could you not be dragged, it is inevitable for you. China with it's millennial experience will make ultimately the right choice. Corruption is fought, a brighter, harmonious future is being worked on every single day.

However, in russia... a part you. I don't know what's of value there. Only thief obsessed by wealth.
by engaging the war against the Sunnah with the Safavids and Nusairis, russia is doing the same "mistake" (in a sense necessary be resolvable) that your so called darkside did with crimea and eastern ukraine. Only it's a no limit game (here only can this word be used).

the last thing that the Sunnah will do is send a Quoran into space voyagerlike. why? to let a trace. the rest is unreal. I know it sound harsh. there is no kbg agents killing deserters, it's only voluntary.

You see the only thing that the west tried to do is a more just, more peaceful, safer world, at the cost of trillions and thousands of the live of the BRAVEST YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN of the west. russia on the other hand, promotes nuclear war (iran), arms sells, corruption (kazakstanlike) and other inhuman trafficking.

I know money can blind (the true darkside). But again I come back not those that wage this thousand year old war. it's bigger, the score ain't here. no one knows it, but pray and follow his heart to be on the right side of the Call of God.

this is what is tragic. you will be taken in it, like the desert storm... only once the wall of sand will rise will you understand how truely dark war can be. I or 0.

America is a land of PEACE. not russia.  The US CONSTITUTION IS SUPREME. why because it allows the PURSUIT OF HAPPYNESS TO THE MOST. It includes following the principle of : free will - informed consent - victimless that what ever the interpretation it's compatible with Islam, it is Islam.

Russia and the other kuffars aren't. you will discover it.

Once upon a time a people coming from the north decided to allied themselves with the last ennemies of Isreal a province ruled by Jews in what is called the Krelefat...

GOD IS THE GREATEST, not russia, not putin, not the mullah, not the assad.

take example on Great Leader, building a bright future for the People of the DPRK.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Lockheed_Martin_F-22A_Raptor_JSOH.jpg

So dear people under the trance of the kremlin and the lies of the kuffars, call us the reptilians if you want, I guarantee you that you mess around it will get hot... very hot, and we like it.

thanks for reading.

THE DARKSIDE.

and as always: HF. (and if you were civilized you would answer u2).

The weapons and the ammunition produced must be sold or used somewhere, so the new place is Syria. The situation is very bad, so many victims, Europe full with refugees. All this has to come to an end, we are living in the 21 century in democratic countries deal the problems with talk and diplomacy not with innocent victims.

as you are still alive... and for the fun of it: rationales about those 2:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AlexanderLitvinenko.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Wiktor_Juschtschenko%2C_Pr%C3%A4sident_der_Ukraine%2C_in_der_Universit%C3%A4t_Z%C3%BCrich.jpg

so you are all afraid of a little mobster of russia? lol. you are so weak...

you suit case radiate terrorists.

it was the first wave, now the Nuke:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Anna_Politkovskaja_im_Gespr%C3%A4ch_mit_Christhard_L%C3%A4pple.jpg

this is putinrussia.

So my question, as I question more... Are you afraid of putin (and as such not of God) or do believe in him (serving a demon)? curious...

written in blood. Supreme Soviet had Values.

russian air force dropping leaflets to warn civilians

https://i.imgur.com/v5yZAOI.jpg

the echo from siberia is coming... and says whispering trough the birches:
"we would have all been richer with Mikhail Khodorkovsky... but the terrorists of the kremlin."

united terrorists of russia :).

hey svders, btw, weed is an excellent relaxant... :D.

why didn't you do your mission statement? defend soviet union from filthy capitalist?

hahahah.

you can't answer anything, you are so naked... a bear without clothes, is a . . . . . . . bear :D.

but I assure you no one is selling it yet, the bidding is about which IMB will have it's flag on the lenin tomb before pulling it down... it will only be symbolic, but how framefull :D... worth a few sec with a webcam feed nothing else :D.

move along, subhumans.

I agree, you should better think about stimulant, something from ramp I guess, only for the privileged of the castle of the demons? hooo but I forget, the longer you take it, the less it work... diminishing return, like your pathetic so-called propaganda... you are so has been, all of you. nukeable.

and like I said :

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Mutua_Madrid_Open_2015.jpg

every one smart has already left this shit hole called russia... it could have been great... but corruption eats everything...

;)

Impressive, this last display of military power from the unexpected... the Caspian flotilla.
https://www.rt.com/news/317864-russian-warships-missiles-launch/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS

expected, and they would have spread to sotchi anyway... so mute point about crimean fleet... nukeable, nothing of value... it's hitputin 1933 all over again.

such losers... all of them.

will rt goes black? I wouldn't work there, there isn't enough 0 to justify the risk... it's dead trap in waiting. what can you do, those foreigners wanted rouble, they will see ruins... but as journalists they should be happy... there will be action. please wrap little non digital camera... so there is footage for history channel :).

 ;D

just a little comment about RT, i strongly believe in not shooting the messenger, nor silencing, nor what ever and let him go home. However and that's where it get fuckingly interesting. The First Amendment by definition applies in the Empire... as such RT America can say what ever they please while enjoying the full protection of the EMPIRE being there. however as rt russia is based in terrorist country, once it start to "rain"... how could anyone know. it's a sad fact of being a servant of a terrorist. terrorpropaganda from terror country is quite stupid, but who would have though that only idiots would work for drakputing :D, little vampire too? I never saw a single show or even sentence critical of the castle of the demon. NEVER. fidel like only evil can get. sponge bob.

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/

once upon a time a bunch of pathetic gangster, traitor to their nations decided to gang in the kremlin to farm the russian people and butcher and threaten the rest of the world. they were wiped. happily. but still:

question more :D.

again everyone smart already left... and every journalist real, knows how the kremlin treaths journalists... it's a fact. proofed many times.

it's anticipation commentary... for example it's evident that the russian parliament being the legal arm of those vampires it will be targeted... don't need to have invented fire to deduce it...

frankly you are noobs. why is the impaler still alive? what's going svder? you are all in, in the plundering, murdering, trafficing and others crime with it (it being a thing)? I guess so, you purged everyone else long time ago... pfffff

NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSss


ahahha

the biggest bidding btw is about the one who will press to pull down the mausoleum... ahahaha, you have no idea.... :D.

you want to know the funniest thing of them all... for the Empire you are under agw as a security risk... you don't understand... you can't... why? everyone smart left, long ago... alone in the dry blood of all your opponents... pfff.

you only have the vestige of what build those that believed in sovietism did... nothing else... muppets. please go do it yourselves all in the forest... call it the end of a cult. the drakputin cult.

Do I need to tell you that it was a little social experiment... hahaha MUPPPPEETTTTTTTS... all of this, since the penguin call the tsar went to see how caves were made.

a proud independent people.... please...

diversifying mothers will not help... look at your hero, the great king of africa.... ROLF.

I imagine how all the people you mind control look at you know, how great nation, much power, such wow...

typical dodge :D

russia federation = dodge of the coin... much coin, much failure, such wow... (and poor hair btw :D).

sometime it's important to edit... even more rofl... I am gonna pee myself :D. (no it's joke :D).

it's joke squaring...

is the guy on rt still making angry face? you will age faster :D...

I have one critism to the Empire, it's unfair to not finish a suffering beast... drakputin, so dark :D, but why not enjoy the last moment... an evil less.

who is gonna own the account drakputin here :D... ahhahahah it will be a ferocious bidding... again ! those bidders... how to control them ask the castle of the demon... answer: slave can't.

drakputin used White Fang as cloacking... poor boy, you are naked. and what happen to a real pack come to town ? it's bungee bungee :D. ahh no I forget it's only with silvio's cave with underage girl... pffff.

drakputin and his team make me think of a badly programmed bot of the 90 in a commercial video game ... hahahah. I forget, there was no pc in soviet union... TOOOO STOOOOPPPPIIIDDDDD....

time for a feminist joke:

could you please order (what ever you call you legal process) put zarakova topless... at least his(her(who knows it could be a he, in lying (demoniac) russia everything is possible) mind controlled speech would be funnier to watch... pffff. shame on you (all of you that stayed in russia... the ruin, you wanted rouble, ready to rumble? ahahaha).

btw the river must be cold enough... you will not suffer :D.

you know what would be the most ironic for fuckers like you? that one terrorist attack is made with fissile material from Iran... your dear buddies... pfffff.... noooobbbbiii must die, and not respawn.

frankly: drakputin is an idiot, an useless eater, a waste of o2 and a co2 producer too much. less drakputin friends, more birches :D.

For those, who doubter that Washington is the common denominator between ISIS and the coup d'etat in Ukraine, here is one more proof.

Poroshenko, the Washington-installed gauleither of Ukraine, in his stupidity let slip the intent of his masters. Yesterday Poroshenko said that Ukraine should gather information about Russian fighter pilots working in Syria and pass it on to ISIS!

Meanwhile Washington did another of their political 180 U-turns and now says that Russia is only bombing the "Syrian opposition army" (all 100 people in it). This came as a response to President Putin's suggestion that the opposition army and the Syrian Army should cooperate in dealing with the common enemy: ISIS. USA were very quick in saying that Syrian opposition will net be allowed to do it.

PS: Resorted to finally put ThePrinceofTea on Ignore - made things so much more readable...  ::)

Haha. So both Russia and the USA are using ISIS as an excuse to expand military operations.

Well, at least Russia is very specific in their targets (Russian marines did also some "target practice" from sea, hitting several ISIS posts) and transparent in reporting what they hit. And judging by the howling coming from ISIS, Russians are hitting them, as opposed to Americans, who were bombing ISIS for a year with not a peep of disapproval coming from ISIS...  8)

Also, Russia is not expanding it military operations (Russia had its sole foreign military naval base in Syria for years) - it's stopping ISIS from expanding to the Russia's borders, which was a very real existential threat to Russia.

That's hilarious. I can imagine american SJW's freaking out over that one.

When the last time the Russian parliament granted Putin the right to deploy troops abroad, a Moscow seized Crim. So as i see it Russians have big plan and they are realize it slowly. On other way there is Nato and America and they seems like they are unprepared for this conflict. I will always repeat what i said many times before in wars inocent people die. If u remember there is movie " Black Hawk Down" on begining there is a Platon word`s " only the dead see the end of the war" and i complety agree with that.

In russia swj are killed when they start to want to force an ideology that would lead to the destruction of the federation. generally it's voted with fsb/svd members... once the vote is done, the kill is made.

it's less boring than to see THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH having to appologize to every sucker on earth and waste time, energy, and more than that doubt...

you can see it in the gmo ban for example:).

however the chance of the usa is the size, deepness and professionalism of the US DEEP STATE... cog... we just test it against swj... it's fun to watch... they are pathetic. you know maybe "unfriendly alien" may use the same tricks :D. full proof...

russia has so many good point.

I hope that nemo1024 will lurk (I almost sure) :

doing U turn is part of the culture... and the waste to the sewer. it can be brutal for once was caviar :D.

Chief of Pentagon Carter virtually declared war against Russia yesterday. He basically said that if Russia does not stop what it's doing in Syria (fighting ISIS terrorists) and does not get out of there, Russian soldiers will start dying and then war will be transferred to the Russian soil. Less radical statements than his were treated as declarations of war in the times past!

At the same time, StateDep said that they will be giving military and air support to militant groups in Syria. When asked which groups, the spokesperson evaded the question saying that there are many such groups there. Basically US declares military support to ISIS, just like they supported Taliban before.

And finally, when I thought that the bottom of double standards was reached, somebody knocked from below. US announces that it will introduce new round of sanctions against Russia for... assisting Syria in their fight against ISIS terrorists.

Undaunted, Russian Air and Space Forces continue assisting Syria in their strive to preserve sovereignty. One town was completely liberated from ISIS yesterday and a valley there is being cleared now. Also Russian forces conducted a series of missile strikes from the Caspian fleet of small frigates (alarming USA to no end my this unexpected move) and from the Black Sea fleet ships, which are located near the Syrian shore.

What Carter is hinting is that if the Russians doesn't stop supporting Assad, then they will provide advanced "surface-to-air" missile batteries to the ISIS barbarians, so that they could shoot down the Russian bomber jets. They have tried this method already in Afghanistan, with good results. It is worrying that the ISIS and the US are now uniting to fight the common enemy (the Russians).

An in-depth for-donation report on Syria by Lada Ray:

Earth Shift Report 5.​ ​SYRIA GAME CHANGER: What do Russia, US, Iran and Israel really want?
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/10/14/earth-shift-report-5-%E2%80%8B-%E2%80%8Bsyria-game-changer-what-do-russia-us-iran-israel-really-want/