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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: Fking on October 22, 2012, 09:05:08 AM



Title: Transparent gambling games?
Post by: Fking on October 22, 2012, 09:05:08 AM
I'm looking for transparent gambling sites.
I like the way satoshidice shows you everything that goes on and you can see all the transactions and make sure it's all legit and honest, but lets face it, the game is boring.
So i'm looking for other gambling games (whatever) with that or similar level of transparency.

Any? Or no body else is that brave? :>


Title: Re: Transparent gambling games?
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on October 22, 2012, 11:22:52 AM
BitZino
Check my signature :)


Title: Re: Transparent gambling games?
Post by: ssaCEO on October 22, 2012, 12:35:44 PM
StrikeSapphire publishes every single card shoe, craps roll and roulette spin the along with the real RTP for each game, at https://strikesapphire.com/reports/ ...you are welcome to run statistical analysis on them and prove the that the games are fair. You can also go back and see exactly what was in the shoe on each blackjack deal, since we use an actual six-deck shoe that is good for a number of hands, not a new shuffle between each new deal.


Title: Re: Transparent gambling games?
Post by: 22bones on October 22, 2012, 07:55:47 PM
I'll suggest BTCMultiplier.com (http://BTCMultiplier.com), which has quite a few very different games to play.


Title: Re: Transparent gambling games?
Post by: dooglus on October 23, 2012, 04:59:36 AM
I'd recommend bitZino too, and I don't have a referral link to push at you.  :)  Every game is provably fair - they shuffle the deck, then effectively allow you to cut it before they deal the hand, so the site itself doesn't know and can't control what cards (or dice rolls, or roulette numbers) are going to come out, since it's decided by the player's "cut".

On top of that, the games all just work in your browser.  No download required, and no Flash plugin required.  All just pure HTML5 goodness.

It's the only place I know that has all 3 of:

* provably fair (like strike sapphire isn't - they publish the shuffles only well after you play, no hash magic before you play)
* fun (like satoshidice isn't - it's like there's no game, just winning or losing)
* always pays out when you win (like bitjack21 doesn't - they invented 'provably fair' but seem to have trouble paying out)


Title: Re: Transparent gambling games?
Post by: mem on October 24, 2012, 02:34:48 PM
I'd recommend bitZino too, and I don't have a referral link to push at you.  :)  Every game is provably fair - they shuffle the deck, then effectively allow you to cut it before they deal the hand, so the site itself doesn't know and can't control what cards (or dice rolls, or roulette numbers) are going to come out, since it's decided by the player's "cut".

On top of that, the games all just work in your browser.  No download required, and no Flash plugin required.  All just pure HTML5 goodness.

It's the only place I know that has all 3 of:

* provably fair (like strike sapphire isn't - they publish the shuffles only well after you play, no hash magic before you play)
* fun (like satoshidice isn't - it's like there's no game, just winning or losing)
* always pays out when you win (like bitjack21 doesn't - they invented 'provably fair' but seem to have trouble paying out)

So Dooglus when do you come out and admit you work for bitzino :P

I see you constantly plugging their site ;)

Id argue there are many more games in my list that meet these three categories then just bitzino.
My suggestions: Minefield (awesome), BitZino (no arguments), btcmultiplier, bitcoindarts (yay) and SatoshiRoulette all meet the same your criteria.

So I guess you really dont look that hard do you ?


Title: Re: Transparent gambling games?
Post by: SRoulette on October 24, 2012, 03:05:16 PM
I'm looking for transparent gambling sites.
I like the way satoshidice shows you everything that goes on and you can see all the transactions and make sure it's all legit and honest, but lets face it, the game is boring.
So i'm looking for other gambling games (whatever) with that or similar level of transparency.

Any? Or no body else is that brave? :>

We are "brave" as you say ;)

We offer verifiable results in the same fashion as satoshidice whilst offering a variety of games such as Roulette, Sic bo, Rock Paper Scissors and of course Clone Dice, to name a few.
We welcome any requests for new games :)

My personal favourite is Sic bo.


Title: Re: Transparent gambling games?
Post by: dooglus on October 24, 2012, 04:10:15 PM
I'd recommend bitZino too, and I don't have a referral link to push at you.  :)  Every game is provably fair - they shuffle the deck, then effectively allow you to cut it before they deal the hand, so the site itself doesn't know and can't control what cards (or dice rolls, or roulette numbers) are going to come out, since it's decided by the player's "cut".

On top of that, the games all just work in your browser.  No download required, and no Flash plugin required.  All just pure HTML5 goodness.

It's the only place I know that has all 3 of:

* provably fair (like strike sapphire isn't - they publish the shuffles only well after you play, no hash magic before you play)
* fun (like satoshidice isn't - it's like there's no game, just winning or losing)
* always pays out when you win (like bitjack21 doesn't - they invented 'provably fair' but seem to have trouble paying out)

So Dooglus when do you come out and admit you work for bitzino :P

I see you constantly plugging their site ;)

Id argue there are many more games in my list that meet these three categories then just bitzino.
My suggestions: Minefield (awesome), BitZino (no arguments), btcmultiplier, bitcoindarts (yay) and SatoshiRoulette all meet the same your criteria.

So I guess you really dont look that hard do you ?

I don't work for them.  They tip me for reporting bugs on their site.  They've probably tipped me a total of 3 or 4 BTC, and I've lost more than that back to them.  I'm definitely down on the deal so far.  Yesterday they gave me 0.25 BTC and I lost 1.5 BTC to them for example.

I like their site, and didn't find any that come close to it.  You're right though, I didn't look very hard at the competition.  SatoshiRoulette was much like a SatoshiDice clone when I looked at it.  Not really interactive (ie. fun), but more of a fire-and-forget system where you send a payment and either win or lose, just like SD.  I think I looked at the darts game once but the house edge was too high.  I didn't see minefield or btcmultiplier before.  Maybe I should.

Edit: here's yesterday's disaster.  I was playing martingale on red.  Check out the last 10 numbers - all black!

https://i.imgur.com/Dn9ol.png


Title: Re: Transparent gambling games?
Post by: drakahn on October 25, 2012, 02:06:25 AM
Every Part of the Drakpot Bitcoin Power Draw is worked out by the blockchain, and so will most (if not all) future games I make, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120187.0


Title: Re: Transparent gambling games?
Post by: mem on October 25, 2012, 10:12:43 AM
another site I forgot to mention is BitcoinGamer.

The admin is really helpful and while the site is a bit plain he has an excellent variety of games.
He added craps simply because I requested it for example :)


Title: Re: Transparent gambling games?
Post by: hamdi on October 25, 2012, 10:23:08 AM
www.satoshitable.com is transparent and easy to understand.


Title: Re: Transparent gambling games?
Post by: Herbert on October 25, 2012, 08:53:59 PM
I'm looking for transparent gambling sites.
I like the way satoshidice shows you everything that goes on and you can see all the transactions and make sure it's all legit and honest, but lets face it, the game is boring.
So i'm looking for other gambling games (whatever) with that or similar level of transparency.

Any? Or no body else is that brave? :>

That's the exact reason I started  bitbattle.me (http://bitbattle.me). Same level of transparency/tracability as SatoshiDice, but much more action 8)
Have a look at at and please provide feedback also in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120497.0.


Title: Re: Transparent gambling games?
Post by: Fking on November 05, 2012, 01:25:05 PM
wow there will be a lot to check, thank you guys :)

hamdi, that satoshitable, i can't understand what's the game, they don't say anything at the site, just ask you to send money?


Title: Re: Transparent gambling games?
Post by: dooglus on November 05, 2012, 05:35:23 PM
wow there will be a lot to check, thank you guys :)

hamdi, that satoshitable, i can't understand what's the game, they don't say anything at the site, just ask you to send money?

there are 100 spots on the table
each spot costs 0.01 BTC to buy
when all 100 spots are sold, one is chosen randomly (?) as the winner and gets 0.98 BTC
the house keeps 0.02 BTC
you get to pick an image and a URL for your spot to link to, so you can advertise anything of your choice, for 0.01 BTC per spot

That's about it, as I understand it.


Title: Re: Transparent gambling games?
Post by: SRoulette on November 06, 2012, 07:15:01 AM
wow there will be a lot to check, thank you guys :)

hamdi, that satoshitable, i can't understand what's the game, they don't say anything at the site, just ask you to send money?

May I suggest our mini dice game, a simplified dice game with progressive jackpots: http://satoshiroulette.com/minidice/

Quote
Pick a number from 2 to 10 and place your bet.
The system rolls a 10 sided dice for you automatically.
If your roll is equal to or greater than the number you picked you win.
To collect a games jackpot, you must roll a 10 on a max bet.

We would appreciate any feedback you can offer, we wish to make our games as easy to play as possible :)

If your like more betting options, try our Clone Dice which has many more options that satoshidice allowing you to pick your odds better :).

As always, good luck and happy gaming.