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Title: Is this build good?
Post by: lightenx on October 03, 2015, 05:15:46 PM
Hi all. I am a n00b at building computers, and I will be buying a prebuilt PC. What do you think of this build? Gaming, mining?
http://www.computerimperium.hu/images/Imperium_Diablo_FX_PC.jpg
Don't care about language, just the specs


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: VirosaGITS on October 03, 2015, 05:48:01 PM
Hi all. I am a n00b at building computers, and I will be buying a prebuilt PC. What do you think of this build? Gaming, mining?
http://www.computerimperium.hu/images/Imperium_Diablo_FX_PC.jpg
Don't care about language, just the specs

Not sure about the price. The GPU is relatively low end so for gaming its not super. For mining same things and mining BTC on any computer is a big nono. So ultimately i dont know how much in USD youd be paying for this but its pretty low end.


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: ranochigo on October 03, 2015, 05:53:30 PM
The GPU is 950, the lowest end of the 9xx series. It is not for gaming and i would at least go for a GTX 970 or r9 380. AMD FX 6300 is a lowend CPU and would bottle neck the higher end GPU, this reducing your room for upgrade. I would definitely go for custom build if you have the time. Prebuilts are usually very expensive and underpowered. I have built a prebuilt computer from seperate parts, I done it in 2 days with help from linustechtips. It was a fast and easy process not to mention that I'm quite young. [Not to mention I saved more than $700 USD by building it myself.]


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: lightenx on October 03, 2015, 06:10:06 PM
500$ and from user reviews, they can run GTA V at great graphics


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: ranochigo on October 03, 2015, 06:20:36 PM
500$ and from user reviews, they can run GTA V at great graphics
Quite overpriced IMO. For that price, you can probably custom build one with r9 280. I built one with I5, 970 and 128gb ssd+1tb hdd under $1k. That being said, your system will be severely limited in terms of upgradabilty. GTA 5 is quite optimize and would run well with any modern graphic card.


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: lightenx on October 03, 2015, 06:24:14 PM
Thanks, I think I will buy anyways, my budget is WAY TOO LOW , because I am only 15 years old


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: VirosaGITS on October 03, 2015, 07:48:53 PM
Thanks, I think I will buy anyways, my budget is WAY TOO LOW , because I am only 15 years old

Well, whats your budget? This computer is worth like 400$ or so.
So its not that small of a budget, but if you have more, you could certainly get something much better for gaming for 450-600$.


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: lightenx on October 03, 2015, 09:51:25 PM
Well this price is almost hitting my budget of 550$ dollars, and I need a new headset so.... Is it good for that price?


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: VirosaGITS on October 03, 2015, 10:18:20 PM
Well this price is almost hitting my budget of 550$ dollars, and I need a new headset so.... Is it good for that price?

Not really, especially for gaming. You'd be better off just buying a GPU and using it in an older computer. That rig is full of cheap parts, depending on what you have available already, you could do much better.


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: lightenx on October 03, 2015, 10:28:30 PM
Well this price is almost hitting my budget of 550$ dollars, and I need a new headset so.... Is it good for that price?



Not really, especially for gaming. You'd be better off just buying a GPU and using it in an older computer. That rig is full of cheap parts, depending on what you have available already, you could do much better.

Well, my computer is now runnig 2.5GB of RAM, Intel Core 2 Duo, Integrated mothetboard graphics... so...


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: VirosaGITS on October 03, 2015, 10:57:03 PM
Well this price is almost hitting my budget of 550$ dollars, and I need a new headset so.... Is it good for that price?



Not really, especially for gaming. You'd be better off just buying a GPU and using it in an older computer. That rig is full of cheap parts, depending on what you have available already, you could do much better.

Well, my computer is now runnig 2.5GB of RAM, Intel Core 2 Duo, Integrated mothetboard graphics... so...

Could get a I3 setup with mobo ram combo for 200$~, that leave you with enough money to get you a good GPU, if your PSU can support it. If not you could get something like a EVGA bronze 600. If your electricity cost is cheap, you could also mine a bit with such GPU.


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: lightenx on October 03, 2015, 11:00:04 PM
And does that 6 cores of the AMD cpu means anything to CS:GO or Skyrim?


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: ranochigo on October 04, 2015, 07:13:57 AM
And does that 6 cores of the AMD cpu means anything to CS:GO or Skyrim?
Possibly not, more cores are better for video processing and workstation. Less but high powered cores are ideal for gaming. However, FX 6300 would not be good for either as it has a low IPC. There is a benchmark here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVl8Eupbr_E&ab_channel=LinusTechTips. The main factor is still your graphics.


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: Lauda on October 04, 2015, 07:16:25 AM
Overall this is good prebuilt computer for the price IMO. This is not overpriced and people need to stop comparing prices to those in the USA.

AMD FX 6300: 100$
Motherboard: 55$
RAM: 45$
GPU: 150$
OD: 18$
HDD: 50$
Case: 40$
Total: 458$ using Amazon prices (aside from case). The prebuilt machine costs ~530$ so the premium that they charge is pretty low. Keep in mind that prices of components tend to be higher than on amazon (dependent on specific country).


And does that 6 cores of the AMD cpu means anything to CS:GO or Skyrim?
Not the cores in specific. Those are the games that you like to play? This CPU comes pretty close in games compared to a new i5 which costs over 200$. The performance in games is mostly GPU dependent unless you have a really bad CPU. This is a solid build if you do not want to make your own computer from components.


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: ranochigo on October 04, 2015, 07:25:43 AM
And does that 6 cores of the AMD cpu means anything to CS:GO or Skyrim?
Not the cores in specific. Those are the games that you like to play? This CPU comes pretty close in games compared to a new i5 which costs over 200$. The performance in games is mostly GPU dependent unless you have a really bad CPU. This is a solid build if you do not want to make your own computer from components.
I would have to disagree with it. Taking an i5 CPU from devils canyon series, i5 4690k, there is a significant difference (http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-vs-AMD-FX-6300). CPU does matter in PC gaming, see my link above. The main problem with this is the upgradability. It is extremely limited, anything above 970 would bottleneck even with an overclock.


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: Lauda on October 04, 2015, 07:36:05 AM
I would have to disagree with it. Taking an i5 CPU from devils canyon series, i5 4690k, there is a significant difference (http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-vs-AMD-FX-6300). CPU does matter in PC gaming, see my link above. The main problem with this is the upgradability. It is extremely limited, anything above 970 would bottleneck even with an overclock.
There is nothing to disagree about. This CPU offers a much better price/performance ratio than a i5 4690k. The link that you provided confirms this and does not show any ingame benchmarks. So I will post two to confirm my argument. This is what you call a 'significant difference'?
https://i.imgur.com/o4gNK8b.png
I will link the second picture as the post looked big and ugly.  (https://i.imgur.com/SLTwkXq.png)


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: ranochigo on October 04, 2015, 07:51:20 AM
I would have to disagree with it. Taking an i5 CPU from devils canyon series, i5 4690k, there is a significant difference (http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-vs-AMD-FX-6300). CPU does matter in PC gaming, see my link above. The main problem with this is the upgradability. It is extremely limited, anything above 970 would bottleneck even with an overclock.
There is nothing to disagree about. This CPU offers a much better price/performance ratio than a i5 4690k. The link that you provided confirms this and does not show any ingame benchmarks. So I will post two to confirm my argument. This is what you call a 'significant difference'?
https://i.imgur.com/o4gNK8b.png
I will link the second picture as the post looked big and ugly.  (https://i.imgur.com/SLTwkXq.png)
True that it does offer a nice ratio but what would it do if it isn't powerful enough to support newer midend GPUs? You are comparing CPUs from 2 generations behind, I was comparing the ones released last year or so.  Furthermore, putting upgradability aside, the market for this kind of CPU is relatively weak. if you were to go for i5, it would still be sellable as it wouldn't bottleneck even a titan x.


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: Lauda on October 04, 2015, 08:06:15 AM
True that it does offer a nice ratio but what would it do if it isn't powerful enough to support newer midend GPUs? You are comparing CPUs from 2 generations behind, I was comparing the ones released last year or so. Furthermore, putting upgradability aside, the market for this kind of CPU is relatively weak. if you were to go for i5, it would still be sellable as it wouldn't bottleneck even a titan x.
I never mentioned that either. What makes you think that someone who does not want to or can not build a PC on their own would want to upgrade it? They'd have to pay someone to do it. I do not know where you live, but 98% (random number, probably higher if we factor in upgrading) of the people that own a computer have never opened it not to mention upgrade it. AMD is for people on a lower budget and has been doing a nice job for those.
I do not understand your first suggestion either.
The GPU is 950, the lowest end of the 9xx series. It is not for gaming and i would at least go for a GTX 970 or r9 380.
Why would someone need such strong hardware to play games when they're coming from "Well, my computer is now runnig 2.5GB of RAM, Intel Core 2 Duo, Integrated mothetboard graphics... so..." ? Any dedicated GPU above a certain price point can be used for gaming. He should be fine running things on medium settings (excluding resource heavy games) even on fHD.


You have to understand that he is not paying a big premium for the build as I've explained clearly. You can check out the prices yourself. However, you are right about saving a lot of money. The more the prebuilt PC costs the more you can save.


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: lightenx on October 04, 2015, 09:10:43 AM
True that it does offer a nice ratio but what would it do if it isn't powerful enough to support newer midend GPUs? You are comparing CPUs from 2 generations behind, I was comparing the ones released last year or so. Furthermore, putting upgradability aside, the market for this kind of CPU is relatively weak. if you were to go for i5, it would still be sellable as it wouldn't bottleneck even a titan x.
I never mentioned that either. What makes you think that someone who does not want to or can not build a PC on their own would want to upgrade it? They'd have to pay someone to do it. I do not know where you live, but 98% (random number, probably higher if we factor in upgrading) of the people that own a computer have never opened it not to mention upgrade it. AMD is for people on a lower budget and has been doing a nice job for those.
I do not understand your first suggestion either.
The GPU is 950, the lowest end of the 9xx series. It is not for gaming and i would at least go for a GTX 970 or r9 380.
Why would someone need such strong hardware to play games when they're coming from "Well, my computer is now runnig 2.5GB of RAM, Intel Core 2 Duo, Integrated mothetboard graphics... so..." ? Any dedicated GPU above a certain price point can be used for gaming. He should be fine running things on medium settings (excluding resource heavy games) even on fHD.


You have to understand that he is not paying a big premium for the build as I've explained clearly. You can check out the prices yourself. However, you are right about saving a lot of money. The more the prebuilt PC costs the more you can save.
Thanks for the reviews, the company I am buying from does have an i5 build (http://www.computerimperium.hu/images/Imperium_Core_i5_HD_PC.jpg) and also  a Maximus build (http://www.computerimperium.hu/images/Imperium_Maximus_PC.jpg)
But these are out of my budget. The i5 costs 250$ more and the Maximus costs ovet 3K$
And I don't really care about 3-4Fps difference


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: Lauda on October 04, 2015, 09:57:05 AM
Thanks for the reviews, the company I am buying from does have an i5 build (http://www.computerimperium.hu/images/Imperium_Core_i5_HD_PC.jpg) and also  a Maximus build (http://www.computerimperium.hu/images/Imperium_Maximus_PC.jpg)
But these are out of my budget. The i5 costs 250$ more and the Maximus costs ovet 3K$
And I don't really care about 3-4Fps difference
Yeah the i5 build is bad. The Nvidia 750 is even weaker than the 950 one. So it is not worth it. Even the second build is overpriced. I didn't really look into it, but at the first glance those components are not worth $3k. They are charging a big premium in that one. I do understand where you're coming from.


So you're 100% positive that you can't/do not want to build your own system? If you have any other places where you can buy a computer, or any other builds that you're interested in post them here. I'll look into them.


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: lightenx on October 04, 2015, 10:06:55 AM
Well, I live in Hungary. This company that has these PCs is called Computerimperium. I can't find any other good prebuild PCs and I can't build one. My computer building skills go as far as installing some RAM.
There's another i3 build (http://www.computerimperium.hu/images/Imperium_Core_i3_HD_PC.jpg) but the graphics card is just a GTX 740


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: Lauda on October 04, 2015, 11:58:36 AM
Well, I live in Hungary. This company that has these PCs is called Computerimperium. I can't find any other good prebuild PCs and I can't build one. My computer building skills go as far as installing some RAM.
There's another i3 build (http://www.computerimperium.hu/images/Imperium_Core_i3_HD_PC.jpg) but the graphics card is just a GTX 740
Okay then. If you are not considering another company then go with the AMD build. Judging from these other builds you are probably not going to find something better than the first one that you linked at that price point. Update this thread if you buy it (when it gets delivered).


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: lightenx on October 04, 2015, 12:46:32 PM
Okay, I will update


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: keramiab on April 13, 2019, 07:45:10 PM
Hi,
My problem is same. what do you think of this laptop? Hp Probook 645 A8 (https://laptopozz.hu/termek/hp-probook-645-a8/)
What games are running on it?
Thank you in advance for your answers  :)


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 20, 2019, 01:42:19 AM
Hi,
My problem is same. what do you think of this laptop? Hp Probook 645 A8 (https://laptopozz.hu/termek/hp-probook-645-a8/)
What games are running on it?
Thank you in advance for your answers  :)

I have a PC that is of the same brand but of different series, although I think it is from the same year of manufacture, and I have put some games and I have restored it with video cards and until now it has run very well, I thought that has power.


Title: Re: Is this build good?
Post by: hasznaltlaptop.eu on May 18, 2021, 11:38:55 AM
Hello!

I am also wondering if this HP Zbook G2 laptop can deal with games like COD: Black Ops Cold War, or CS Global Offensive with this Nvidia Quadro VGA card?

https://hasznaltlaptop.eu/hasznalt-laptop/hp-zbook-15-g2-workstation-hasznalt-laptop-k2100m

Thanks in advance!