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Title: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: yanka50 on October 05, 2015, 03:14:17 PM
What is the best dice affiliate program. Give your honest opinion with the best % and features.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: pandacoin on October 05, 2015, 03:20:45 PM
It doesn't matter which aff you use. The important thing is can you find people to bet on them?

Primedice's aff is also good.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: joksim299 on October 05, 2015, 03:27:24 PM
What is the best dice affiliate program. Give your honest opinion with the best % and features.

Most of the dice affiliate programs offer 10% of the house edge, it is not competitive area. Few popular dice sites do not offer affiliate program at all.
Programs which I know that pay more are BetterBets (15% of the house edge) and PocketDice through CoinProfit have a 40% revenue share deal.
 


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: ikydesu on October 05, 2015, 03:30:25 PM
What is the best dice affiliate program. Give your honest opinion with the best % and features.

FortuneJack offers you earn 20%-40% profit share: https://fortunejack.com/affiliate/


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: ndnh on October 05, 2015, 03:32:37 PM
Rollin offers 15% of House Edge. A pretty good deal, imo. :)


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: kotwica666 on October 05, 2015, 03:33:45 PM
With https://pocketdice.io/referral you can get 0.1% of every bet made with deposited coins. They have very nice design and that can help you to bring new users..


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: ~Bitcoin~ on October 05, 2015, 03:46:47 PM
Usually dice sites don't have affiliate program and if they have it will be around 1-10% of the house edge and you may know house edge is commonly around 1%-0.1% which makes commision too low. Try to refer members to casino sites specially which have sportsbook, they give a little bit more commision.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: BetterBets.io on October 05, 2015, 03:50:00 PM
Like Joksim said we offer 15% of house edge, win or lose (some sites it's only if they lose) it's 15% You can find your affiliate link in your user account area. Based on the total betting volume of all users which register via your affiliate code, we pay out 15% of 1% house edge. Good luck players, if you get a referral who does 200 btc volume for the week it's 0.3 BTC for you, just to give an example. https://betterbets.io/app/content/faq/


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: kotwica666 on October 05, 2015, 03:53:45 PM
Usually dice sites don't have affiliate program and if they have it will be around 1-10% of the house edge and you may know house edge is commonly around 1%-0.1% which makes commision too low. Try to refer members to casino sites specially which have sportsbook, they give a little bit more commision.

Can you recommend some trustworthy casino or which has been running for a long time? and with nice % affiliate program ;)


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: yanka50 on October 05, 2015, 04:11:04 PM
What is the best dice affiliate program. Give your honest opinion with the best % and features.

FortuneJack offers you earn 20%-40% profit share: https://fortunejack.com/affiliate/
Fortunejack only pays me if the referred user loses their money, but at least I don't get negative balance if they win.  :-\


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: rivoke on October 05, 2015, 04:14:21 PM
What is the best dice affiliate program. Give your honest opinion with the best % and features.

PrimeDice offering 20% if you're lucky enough at the past

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745779.msg8431640#msg8431640


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: yanka50 on October 05, 2015, 04:18:45 PM
What is the best dice affiliate program. Give your honest opinion with the best % and features.

PrimeDice offering 20% if you're lucky enough at the past

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745779.msg8431640#msg8431640
Do they still boost account to 20% or this offer is no longer valid?


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: Lutpin on October 05, 2015, 04:59:18 PM
Usually dice sites don't have affiliate program and if they have it will be around 1-10% of the house edge and you may know house edge is commonly around 1%-0.1% which makes commision too low. Try to refer members to casino sites specially which have sportsbook, they give a little bit more commision.

Crypto-Games gives 25% of its house edge to referrers ;)


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: joksim299 on October 05, 2015, 05:10:37 PM

Crypto-Games gives 25% of its house edge to referrers ;)

I do not know how I could miss your affiliate program, very generous offer. Good opportunity to earn (dice he: 0.8 blackjack he: 1.25% , slots he:1.24)


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: fox19891989 on October 05, 2015, 05:14:54 PM
dadice offer 30% of house edge, so means you can get 0.3% of wagering money in theory, I mean if the players lost money in a 1% house edge dice game, so house has 1% edge, and you can have 0.3% edge, but you need to level up there. I am level 50 there and enjoy 12500 sat faucet there which is generous too


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: yanka50 on October 05, 2015, 05:25:39 PM
dadice offer 30% of house edge, so means you can get 0.3% of wagering money in theory, I mean if the players lost money in a 1% house edge dice game, so house has 1% edge, and you can have 0.3% edge, but you need to level up there. I am level 50 there and enjoy 12500 sat faucet there which is generous too
30% is very good but is it on the lost money or is it on all bets - winners and losers?


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: Lutpin on October 05, 2015, 05:26:06 PM
dadice offer 30% of house edge, so means you can get 0.3% of wagering money in theory, I mean if the players lost money in a 1% house edge dice game, so house has 1% edge, and you can have 0.3% edge, but you need to level up there. I am level 50 there and enjoy 12500 sat faucet there which is generous too

But you only earn on lost bets of your affiliates, right?
You dont earn 0.3*0.01*Wagered amount, right?


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: fox19891989 on October 05, 2015, 05:48:06 PM
dadice offer 30% of house edge, so means you can get 0.3% of wagering money in theory, I mean if the players lost money in a 1% house edge dice game, so house has 1% edge, and you can have 0.3% edge, but you need to level up there. I am level 50 there and enjoy 12500 sat faucet there which is generous too

But you only earn on lost bets of your affiliates, right?
You dont earn 0.3*0.01*Wagered amount, right?

yeah, we earn lost money of affiliates, currently I have earn 0.019 btc from 67 affiliates.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: Lutpin on October 05, 2015, 05:51:47 PM
Crypto-Games gives 25% of its house edge to referrers ;)
I do not know how I could miss your affiliate program, very generous offer. Good opportunity to earn (dice he: 0.8 blackjack he: 1.25% , slots he:1.24)

Oh yeah, its not only lost bets, its 25% of the house edge on every bet regardless of the outcome.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: shulio on October 05, 2015, 06:01:03 PM
dadice offer 30% of house edge, so means you can get 0.3% of wagering money in theory, I mean if the players lost money in a 1% house edge dice game, so house has 1% edge, and you can have 0.3% edge, but you need to level up there. I am level 50 there and enjoy 12500 sat faucet there which is generous too

If you only get from the player that lost then it is not generous offer, thats very little. lets say someone lost 1 btc then 1 % is 0.01 and you get 30 % from that 0.003 btc yeah very generous?thats a little. Generous is when you get alot from the house edge alone


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: fox19891989 on October 05, 2015, 06:20:09 PM
dadice offer 30% of house edge, so means you can get 0.3% of wagering money in theory, I mean if the players lost money in a 1% house edge dice game, so house has 1% edge, and you can have 0.3% edge, but you need to level up there. I am level 50 there and enjoy 12500 sat faucet there which is generous too

If you only get from the player that lost then it is not generous offer, thats very little. lets say someone lost 1 btc then 1 % is 0.01 and you get 30 % from that 0.003 btc yeah very generous?thats a little. Generous is when you get alot from the house edge alone

You understand wrongly, if they lost 1btc, i can get 30% of house earned, which is 0.3btc, but in theoretically, players wager 100btc and lost 1btc cause the house edge is 1%, so expected lost of 100btc wagering is 1btc, and I earn 1*30%=0.3btc, so that's why i said i can get 1% * 30% = 1%*wager*30%, but it is in theory, if the players never lost money, so i earn nothing.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: yanka50 on October 05, 2015, 06:24:04 PM
Crypto-Games gives 25% of its house edge to referrers ;)
I do not know how I could miss your affiliate program, very generous offer. Good opportunity to earn (dice he: 0.8 blackjack he: 1.25% , slots he:1.24)

Oh yeah, its not only lost bets, its 25% of the house edge on every bet regardless of the outcome.
So crypto-games edge is 0.8%, lower than most other websites that have 1% house edge.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: Lutpin on October 05, 2015, 06:26:40 PM
Crypto-Games gives 25% of its house edge to referrers ;)
I do not know how I could miss your affiliate program, very generous offer. Good opportunity to earn (dice he: 0.8 blackjack he: 1.25% , slots he:1.24)
Oh yeah, its not only lost bets, its 25% of the house edge on every bet regardless of the outcome.
So crypto-games edge is 0.8%, lower than most other websites that have 1% house edge.

0.8% for dice, higher for the other games. 25% of that lead to 0.2% what would be a 20% share on sites that use a 1% house edge. Thats still pretty high, isnt it?

dadice offer 30% of house edge, so means you can get 0.3% of wagering money in theory, I mean if the players lost money in a 1% house edge dice game, so house has 1% edge, and you can have 0.3% edge, but you need to level up there. I am level 50 there and enjoy 12500 sat faucet there which is generous too
If you only get from the player that lost then it is not generous offer, thats very little. lets say someone lost 1 btc then 1 % is 0.01 and you get 30 % from that 0.003 btc yeah very generous?thats a little. Generous is when you get alot from the house edge alone
You understand wrongly, if they lost 1btc, i can get 30% of house earned, which is 0.3btc, but in theoretically, players wager 100btc and lost 1btc cause the house edge is 1%, so expected lost of 100btc wagering is 1btc, and I earn 1*30%=0.3btc, so that's why i said i can get 1% * 30% = 1%*wager*30%, but it is in theory, if the players never lost money, so i earn nothing.

Actually, you got it wrong there.

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Start earning with DaDice! Join our affiliate program and start earning commission for every user you refer. On every wagered amount we give 30% of our house edge away,when your referred players lose.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: yanka50 on October 05, 2015, 06:57:17 PM
Yes, Lutpin, 20% is still a decent % for an affiliate program.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: marioantonini on October 05, 2015, 07:02:41 PM
But all affiliate programm  is only for the lose of you ref ?
I remember coinichiwa pay a very little % but for the btc wagered and don't for the lose. Is true ?


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: lite on October 05, 2015, 07:08:14 PM
What is the best dice affiliate program. Give your honest opinion with the best % and features.

FortuneJack offers you earn 20%-40% profit share: https://fortunejack.com/affiliate/
Fortunejack only pays me if the referred user loses their money, but at least I don't get negative balance if they win.  :-\
Yeah FortuneJack is really good, they reset affiliate account every month which is good.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: Lutpin on October 05, 2015, 07:09:07 PM
But all affiliate programm  is only for the lose of you ref ?
I remember coinichiwa pay a very little % but for the btc wagered and don't for the lose. Is true ?

As I already explained, crypto-games run a similar system, the outcome doesnt matter, you earn on won and lost bets.
I think primedice also runs this programm and several other sites. Coinichiwa may be among those, but im not familiar with their programm.

Dadice and some sites on the other hand only let you earn on lost bets.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: fox19891989 on October 05, 2015, 07:25:50 PM
maybe you guys misunderstand the concept of house edge and expect earning, 1% house edge means casinos EXPECT to earn 1% of wager, so theoretically casinos earn 1% of wagers, if the house edge is 5%, casino expects to earn 5% of wagers, of course in real life, the figure is not equal to the figure, but in the long term, 1% dice site expects to earn 1% of wagers. That's why i said, i expect to earn 0.3% of total wagering, cause 30%*1%=0.3%.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: joksim299 on October 05, 2015, 07:29:56 PM
maybe you guys misunderstand the concept of house edge and expect earning, 1% house edge means casinos EXPECT to earn 1% of wager, so theoretically casinos earn 1% of wagers, if the house edge is 5%, casino expects to earn 5% of wagers, of course in real life, the figure is not equal to the figure, but in the long term, 1% dice site expects to earn 1% of wagers. That's why i said, i expect to earn 0.3% of total wagering, cause 30%*1%=0.3%.

Your calculation in the previous post is wrong as Luptin said. As I know DaDice does not offer revenue share program.

dadice offer 30% of house edge, so means you can get 0.3% of wagering money in theory, I mean if the players lost money in a 1% house edge dice game, so house has 1% edge, and you can have 0.3% edge, but you need to level up there. I am level 50 there and enjoy 12500 sat faucet there which is generous too

If you only get from the player that lost then it is not generous offer, thats very little. lets say someone lost 1 btc then 1 % is 0.01 and you get 30 % from that 0.003 btc yeah very generous?thats a little. Generous is when you get alot from the house edge alone

You understand wrongly, if they lost 1btc, i can get 30% of house earned, which is 0.3btc, but in theoretically, players wager 100btc and lost 1btc cause the house edge is 1%, so expected lost of 100btc wagering is 1btc, and I earn 1*30%=0.3btc, so that's why i said i can get 1% * 30% = 1%*wager*30%, but it is in theory, if the players never lost money, so i earn nothing.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: Lutpin on October 05, 2015, 07:35:07 PM
maybe you guys misunderstand the concept of house edge and expect earning, 1% house edge means casinos EXPECT to earn 1% of wager, so theoretically casinos earn 1% of wagers, if the house edge is 5%, casino expects to earn 5% of wagers, of course in real life, the figure is not equal to the figure, but in the long term, 1% dice site expects to earn 1% of wagers. That's why i said, i expect to earn 0.3% of total wagering, cause 30%*1%=0.3%.

Im quite familiar with the concept of house edges, thanks for your concern. Also I did not understand things wrongly, you simply stated them wrong.

You understand wrongly, if they lost 1btc, i can get 30% of house earned, which is 0.3btc

That is what you said. And that is incorrect. If someone places a bet of 1btc as your ref and loses you do NOT get 30% of that/0.3btc. You however get 30% of the house edge/0.003btc. That is how things are and that is how dadice advertises their ref-system.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: memii on October 05, 2015, 07:37:47 PM
Nitrogensports just added dice game and has nice affiliate program so you can give try this site.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: crytoboost on October 05, 2015, 07:51:28 PM
Fortunejack offering best affiliate program where you earn up to 40% from it profit sharing program, it is one of best affiliate program to promote your link to get nice profit in return.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: fox19891989 on October 05, 2015, 08:01:07 PM
maybe you guys misunderstand the concept of house edge and expect earning, 1% house edge means casinos EXPECT to earn 1% of wager, so theoretically casinos earn 1% of wagers, if the house edge is 5%, casino expects to earn 5% of wagers, of course in real life, the figure is not equal to the figure, but in the long term, 1% dice site expects to earn 1% of wagers. That's why i said, i expect to earn 0.3% of total wagering, cause 30%*1%=0.3%.

Im quite familiar with the concept of house edges, thanks for your concern. Also I did not understand things wrongly, you simply stated them wrong.

You understand wrongly, if they lost 1btc, i can get 30% of house earned, which is 0.3btc

That is what you said. And that is incorrect. If someone places a bet of 1btc as your ref and loses you do NOT get 30% of that/0.3btc. You however get 30% of the house edge/0.003btc. That is how things are and that is how dadice advertises their ref-system.

i got 0.019btc from dadice affiliate program, so you think my referrals lost over 0.019/0.003=6btc? cause you said i got 0.003btc if my referrals lost 1btc. I said I expect they wager 1btc and lost 0.01btc, and I earned 0.003btc, not they lost entire 1btc, lost 1btc doesn't mean wager 1btc. Sorry for my english, make you guys misunderstood.


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: Lutpin on October 05, 2015, 08:11:50 PM
maybe you guys misunderstand the concept of house edge and expect earning, 1% house edge means casinos EXPECT to earn 1% of wager, so theoretically casinos earn 1% of wagers, if the house edge is 5%, casino expects to earn 5% of wagers, of course in real life, the figure is not equal to the figure, but in the long term, 1% dice site expects to earn 1% of wagers. That's why i said, i expect to earn 0.3% of total wagering, cause 30%*1%=0.3%.

Im quite familiar with the concept of house edges, thanks for your concern. Also I did not understand things wrongly, you simply stated them wrong.

You understand wrongly, if they lost 1btc, i can get 30% of house earned, which is 0.3btc

That is what you said. And that is incorrect. If someone places a bet of 1btc as your ref and loses you do NOT get 30% of that/0.3btc. You however get 30% of the house edge/0.003btc. That is how things are and that is how dadice advertises their ref-system.

i got 0.019btc from dadice affiliate program, so you think my referrals lost over 0.019/0.003=6btc? cause you said i got 0.003btc if my referrals lost 1btc. I said I expect they wager 1btc and lost 0.01btc, and I earned 0.003btc, not they lost entire 1btc, lost 1btc doesn't mean wager 1btc. Sorry for my english, make you guys misunderstood.

Your corelation of wagered amount and your ref earning is btw wrong also. While its correct to calculate the EV of the house that way, ref earnings on dadice work differently.
If dadice was giving 30% of their house edge on every bet, you were right. But they aint.
Players can reach 1btc wagered with x9900 bets or with x1.02 bets. Your earnings in both cases anyhow are completely different.

To help out OP:
If you want to compare the affiliate system of dadice with systems like primedice/crypto-games, you gotta take in the multiplier your refs are betting on/the win chance.
Let me present with what i can come up right now (im on mobile, numbers will be cca. and not correct, but you will see the dimensions):
-your ref bets on x9900/0.01% win chance: compareable to 29.99% share
-your ref bets on 33% win chance: comparable to 20% fix share
-your ref bets on 50% win chance: comparable to 15% share
-your ref bets on 66% win chance: comparable to 10% fixed share
-your ref bets on 98% win chance: compareable to 0.6% fix share

If you make the BIG asumption that your refs wager with an average multiplier of x2/50% win chance, you can say your earnings are compareable to a 15% share of the house edge on a system like the one primedice uses.

Pls correct me if Im wrong though, its just what jumped my head...
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Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: fox19891989 on October 05, 2015, 08:39:41 PM
“On every wagered amount we give 30% of our house edge away, when your referred players lose.

Affiliates will get 2% at the beginning at level 1 of play, and then, when they reach the next level, another 2% up to level 15, when it will reach the maximum of 30%. The more people you refer the more you stand to gain.”

Dadice terms say this.

On every wagered amount we give 30% of our house edge away, when your referred players lose. So I can get the 30% of lost money from affiliates, am I right?


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: Bitcoin Marketing on October 06, 2015, 01:05:29 AM
Can you share a comparison table for dice games ?

Thanks


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: DogecoinMachine on October 06, 2015, 05:55:05 AM
Can you share a comparison table for dice games ?

Thanks

This guy made quite some work: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1149908.0
But as I can see some data are not updated (we have currently 0.7 BTC max win and not 0.5)

About referral program...yes we're offering 25% referral program.
25% of the house edge of every bet made by everyone you referr is added to your balance. Whether they win or lose the bet, you still earn money.

Website/blog/forum owners can contact us and for some good promotion/banner we can talk about even higher percentage  ;)


Title: Re: Dice Affiliate Program
Post by: marioantonini on October 06, 2015, 04:30:41 PM
But all affiliate programm  is only for the lose of you ref ?
I remember coinichiwa pay a very little % but for the btc wagered and don't for the lose. Is true ?

As I already explained, crypto-games run a similar system, the outcome doesnt matter, you earn on won and lost bets.
I think primedice also runs this programm and several other sites. Coinichiwa may be among those, but im not familiar with their programm.

Dadice and some sites on the other hand only let you earn on lost bets.

thanks for the reply.
Unfortunatly, i have see coinichiwa now and not have more player, probably the site is death.
primedice is the most famous and i can't search new user  ;D