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Title: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: 8831288 on October 07, 2015, 01:38:18 PM
Hello,

I am new in coinbase, just now I made a transfer from coinbase address to my personal wallet address.  All I have in coinbase is 0.03908 BTC, and I found that I can send this full amount out of coinbase, and I got full amount of 0.03908 BTC to my personal wallet address. But I checked the transaction on blockchain and found the fee is 0.0009 BTC(Fee: 0.0009 BTC - Size: 1837 bytes).  I am confused, did coinbase pay this fee for my transfer?


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: 7788bitcoin on October 07, 2015, 01:40:36 PM
Yes. I think Coinbase pay for the fee. However, I do notice sometimes they do round down the send amount which just costs you >100 Satoshis.


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: snipie on October 07, 2015, 01:46:19 PM
Didn't made too much transactions via coinbase because i am using mainly blockchain.info but i noticed this too in my last transaction. I sent my whole balance from coinbase to blockchain.info wallet (fees included) without paying any fees.
I asked this question once about xapo & coinbase inside a topic, i got only a confirmation about xapo.
If someone can confirm it, i will manage to use more coinbase.


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: Mickeyb on October 07, 2015, 03:20:51 PM
I see that they are trying really hard to increase its customer base and increase Bitcoin adoption. They are giving nice affiliate bonuses, they are paying also transaction fees. I never liked them because of the accusations that they work closely with the government and that they close accounts for no reason, etc,  but I salute their dedication by doing these little things.


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: gogxmagog on October 07, 2015, 08:24:40 PM
They are my go to online wallet for micro transactions. Exactly because of the zero fee.

Still won't put significant amounts through it.


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: DannyHamilton on October 07, 2015, 08:27:53 PM
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did coinbase pay this fee for my transfer?

Yes.

Under most common conditions coinbase will pay the transaction fee for you.

https://support.coinbase.com/customer/en/portal/articles/815435-does-coinbase-pay-bitcoin-miner-fees-
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Coinbase pays the miner fees (typically 0.0001 BTC) on external transactions in order to ensure these transactions propagate throughout the bitcoin network quickly. For very small transaction amounts you may be prompted to pay the transaction / miner fee.


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: tiggytomb on October 07, 2015, 08:30:34 PM
I noticed this also the couple of times I have used them, it is a bonus and a plus for using Coinbase.


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: christycalhoun on October 07, 2015, 09:18:49 PM
I am a bit paranoid about using coinbase due to past accusations. The fee really isn't that big of a deal to me.


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: coinpr0n on October 07, 2015, 10:03:26 PM
I guess it comes with the territory when they are in control of your private keys for them to pay for fees most of the time. Between Coinbase accounts it's essentially all off-chain transactions too.


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: maokoto on October 07, 2015, 10:47:06 PM
I see that they are trying really hard to increase its customer base and increase Bitcoin adoption. They are giving nice affiliate bonuses, they are paying also transaction fees. I never liked them because of the accusations that they work closely with the government and that they close accounts for no reason, etc,  but I salute their dedication by doing these little things.

Totally agree with this. I have them as my main wallet (I only have about 1 BTC), and it works great for selling and having the money in your bank account easily. Also for buying. Yes, perhaps privacy is not high, but I don't mind that much.



Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: mayax on October 08, 2015, 12:23:12 AM
I see that they are trying really hard to increase its customer base and increase Bitcoin adoption. They are giving nice affiliate bonuses, they are paying also transaction fees. I never liked them because of the accusations that they work closely with the government and that they close accounts for no reason, etc,  but I salute their dedication by doing these little things.

Totally agree with this. I have them as my main wallet (I only have about 1 BTC), and it works great for selling and having the money in your bank account easily. Also for buying. Yes, perhaps privacy is not high, but I don't mind that much.


Well, Bitcoin was made for anonymity. I laugh a lot when I see that the peple does not care about that anymore.

There were tones of pages on this forum where the people were screaming that BTC offers full privacy and that it offers protection against GOVs, bad people, illuminaty and other stories .  :D :D :D

Now, all the exchangers are looking for regulations, licences which means the END of the privacy.What is very odd? Nobody is saying nothing. It's OK like that as long you make some cash , right?  ;D ;D ;D

In end, it only matters  the cash  but let's not be hypocrites and to admit it. :)


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: snipie on October 08, 2015, 03:46:18 AM
I see that they are trying really hard to increase its customer base and increase Bitcoin adoption. They are giving nice affiliate bonuses, they are paying also transaction fees. I never liked them because of the accusations that they work closely with the government and that they close accounts for no reason, etc,  but I salute their dedication by doing these little things.

Totally agree with this. I have them as my main wallet (I only have about 1 BTC), and it works great for selling and having the money in your bank account easily. Also for buying. Yes, perhaps privacy is not high, but I don't mind that much.


Well, Bitcoin was made for anonymity. I laugh a lot when I see that the peple does not care about that anymore.

There were tones of pages on this forum where the people were screaming that BTC offers full privacy and that it offers protection against GOVs, bad people, illuminaty and other stories .  :D :D :D

Now, all the exchangers are looking for regulations, licences which means the END of the privacy.What is very odd? Nobody is saying nothing. It's OK like that as long you make some cash , right?  ;D ;D ;D

In end, it only matters  the cash  but let's not be hypocrites and to admit it. :)
Thoses services offer an advantage to attract users, no one is obliged to use them, we have bitcoin core and the other cold storage also blockchain.info and many other online wallets.
If someone don't care so much about his identity to be revealed then he can use it.


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: neonshium on October 08, 2015, 03:58:44 AM
Yes, many online services pay fees for us. Example Xapo, freebitco.on, moonbit and faucetbox.com
This is possible for them when they process the transactions in batch. Because transaction fees are for the size of transaction not for number of transaction. I do not know about coinbase. But Xapo processes our sending transactions in batch.
 


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: notiely on October 08, 2015, 06:39:02 AM
Hello,

I am new in coinbase, just now I made a transfer from coinbase address to my personal wallet address.  All I have in coinbase is 0.03908 BTC, and I found that I can send this full amount out of coinbase, and I got full amount of 0.03908 BTC to my personal wallet address. But I checked the transaction on blockchain and found the fee is 0.0009 BTC(Fee: 0.0009 BTC - Size: 1837 bytes).  I am confused, did coinbase pay this fee for my transfer?

Fee: 0.0009 BTC, why the fee is so high?


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: NorrisK on October 08, 2015, 07:19:25 AM
Hello,

I am new in coinbase, just now I made a transfer from coinbase address to my personal wallet address.  All I have in coinbase is 0.03908 BTC, and I found that I can send this full amount out of coinbase, and I got full amount of 0.03908 BTC to my personal wallet address. But I checked the transaction on blockchain and found the fee is 0.0009 BTC(Fee: 0.0009 BTC - Size: 1837 bytes).  I am confused, did coinbase pay this fee for my transfer?

Fee: 0.0009 BTC, why the fee is so high?

If i'm correct, the transaction is larger than 1 kb so it requires a higher fee. Next, the service itself may post a higher fee to make sure the customer gets paid fast.

Personally, I don't mind paying 2 cents for my transactions myself. 0.0009 on the other hand is quite nice of them to cover :)


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: tennozer on October 08, 2015, 04:18:48 PM
Hello,

I am new in coinbase, just now I made a transfer from coinbase address to my personal wallet address.  All I have in coinbase is 0.03908 BTC, and I found that I can send this full amount out of coinbase, and I got full amount of 0.03908 BTC to my personal wallet address. But I checked the transaction on blockchain and found the fee is 0.0009 BTC(Fee: 0.0009 BTC - Size: 1837 bytes).  I am confused, did coinbase pay this fee for my transfer?

Yes that is true. Coinbase pays the transfer fee and I prefer to use coinbase for this reason. With small amounts it is really useful to transfer satoshis. But you have to write the exact satıshi which you have got in your wallet. Otherwise you will pay transfer fee.


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: dothebeats on October 08, 2015, 04:23:11 PM
I think so. Only made two transactions via their wallet and I also managed to send it all up to the last satoshi. It's not that much after all, though there are some cases in which you cannot send the full balance in your wallet to another and there are some deductions to it (I'm not sure what they are for).


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: mayax on October 09, 2015, 02:06:36 AM
I see that they are trying really hard to increase its customer base and increase Bitcoin adoption. They are giving nice affiliate bonuses, they are paying also transaction fees. I never liked them because of the accusations that they work closely with the government and that they close accounts for no reason, etc,  but I salute their dedication by doing these little things.

Totally agree with this. I have them as my main wallet (I only have about 1 BTC), and it works great for selling and having the money in your bank account easily. Also for buying. Yes, perhaps privacy is not high, but I don't mind that much.


Well, Bitcoin was made for anonymity. I laugh a lot when I see that the peple does not care about that anymore.

There were tones of pages on this forum where the people were screaming that BTC offers full privacy and that it offers protection against GOVs, bad people, illuminaty and other stories .  :D :D :D

Now, all the exchangers are looking for regulations, licences which means the END of the privacy.What is very odd? Nobody is saying nothing. It's OK like that as long you make some cash , right?  ;D ;D ;D

In end, it only matters  the cash  but let's not be hypocrites and to admit it. :)
Thoses services offer an advantage to attract users, no one is obliged to use them, we have bitcoin core and the other cold storage also blockchain.info and many other online wallets.
If someone don't care so much about his identity to be revealed then he can use it.


How do you cash out or cash in Bitcoin? By using one of these exchangers, right? Well, these exchangers are requesting you a lot of papers about you. Soon, they will want your fingerprint...

As I know, BTC was made to offer anonymity and nothing more. There are plenty of e-currencies which are asking for documents.Why would I use Bitcoin when I have Paypal and other similar systems like this one? I have credit cards which I can easily use them everywhere.

BTC attracted people because of this feature called, anonymity. Now, it disappeared and nobody is saying a word :)
Where are the "legendary" members to scream agaist GOVs, Illumitati and so on?  They did it years ago. They said Bitcoin will never be like Paypal and here we are. You cannot buy or sell Bitcoin without documents. ;D ;D

The banks are requesting the same documents as Gemeni, Coinbase, etc.

Exchangers are looking for regulations even regulations means NO anonymity
NO anonymity = against Bitcoin's "core" :)

Again, why would someone need BTC in these circumstances while there are credit, debit cards? The banks are asking me the same papers like Gemini, Coinbase are asking.
I can buy anything with credit cards in a blink of eye...without waiting 15 minutes for endless BTC confirmations.
Also, the banks are offering much more security than any "private" wallet....



Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: snipie on October 09, 2015, 02:42:42 AM
I see that they are trying really hard to increase its customer base and increase Bitcoin adoption. They are giving nice affiliate bonuses, they are paying also transaction fees. I never liked them because of the accusations that they work closely with the government and that they close accounts for no reason, etc,  but I salute their dedication by doing these little things.

Totally agree with this. I have them as my main wallet (I only have about 1 BTC), and it works great for selling and having the money in your bank account easily. Also for buying. Yes, perhaps privacy is not high, but I don't mind that much.


Well, Bitcoin was made for anonymity. I laugh a lot when I see that the peple does not care about that anymore.

There were tones of pages on this forum where the people were screaming that BTC offers full privacy and that it offers protection against GOVs, bad people, illuminaty and other stories .  :D :D :D

Now, all the exchangers are looking for regulations, licences which means the END of the privacy.What is very odd? Nobody is saying nothing. It's OK like that as long you make some cash , right?  ;D ;D ;D

In end, it only matters  the cash  but let's not be hypocrites and to admit it. :)
Thoses services offer an advantage to attract users, no one is obliged to use them, we have bitcoin core and the other cold storage also blockchain.info and many other online wallets.
If someone don't care so much about his identity to be revealed then he can use it.


How do you cash out or cash in Bitcoin? By using one of these exchangers, right? Well, these exchangers are requesting you a lot of papers about you. Soon, they will want your fingerprint...

As I know, BTC was made to offer anonymity and nothing more. There are plenty of e-currencies which are asking for documents.Why would I use Bitcoin when I have Paypal and other similar systems like this one? I have credit cards which I can easily use them everywhere.

BTC attracted people because of this feature called, anonymity. Now, it disappeared and nobody is saying a word :)
Where are the "legendary" members to scream agaist GOVs, Illumitati and so on?  They did it years ago. They said Bitcoin will never be like Paypal and here we are. You cannot buy or sell Bitcoin without documents. ;D ;D

The banks are requesting the same documents as Gemeni, Coinbase, etc.

Exchangers are looking for regulations even regulations means NO anonymity
NO anonymity = against Bitcoin's "core" :)

Again, why would someone need BTC in these circumstances while there are credit, debit cards? The banks are asking me the same papers like Gemini, Coinbase are asking.
I can buy anything with credit cards in a blink of eye...without waiting 15 minutes for endless BTC confirmations.
Also, the banks are offering much more security than any "private" wallet....
Agree with you, and for this reason i stopped using xapo and closed my account there when I discovered that I have to give too much paper to get my btc address! (btw didn't revealed my identity when I joined coinbase)
But as I said before, not everyone is caring so much about his identity.


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: Mieehayii on October 09, 2015, 04:27:27 AM
I think none exchanges would charge a net transfer fee of users.


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: mayax on October 09, 2015, 02:16:18 PM
I see that they are trying really hard to increase its customer base and increase Bitcoin adoption. They are giving nice affiliate bonuses, they are paying also transaction fees. I never liked them because of the accusations that they work closely with the government and that they close accounts for no reason, etc,  but I salute their dedication by doing these little things.

Totally agree with this. I have them as my main wallet (I only have about 1 BTC), and it works great for selling and having the money in your bank account easily. Also for buying. Yes, perhaps privacy is not high, but I don't mind that much.


Well, Bitcoin was made for anonymity. I laugh a lot when I see that the peple does not care about that anymore.

There were tones of pages on this forum where the people were screaming that BTC offers full privacy and that it offers protection against GOVs, bad people, illuminaty and other stories .  :D :D :D

Now, all the exchangers are looking for regulations, licences which means the END of the privacy.What is very odd? Nobody is saying nothing. It's OK like that as long you make some cash , right?  ;D ;D ;D

In end, it only matters  the cash  but let's not be hypocrites and to admit it. :)
Thoses services offer an advantage to attract users, no one is obliged to use them, we have bitcoin core and the other cold storage also blockchain.info and many other online wallets.
If someone don't care so much about his identity to be revealed then he can use it.


How do you cash out or cash in Bitcoin? By using one of these exchangers, right? Well, these exchangers are requesting you a lot of papers about you. Soon, they will want your fingerprint...

As I know, BTC was made to offer anonymity and nothing more. There are plenty of e-currencies which are asking for documents.Why would I use Bitcoin when I have Paypal and other similar systems like this one? I have credit cards which I can easily use them everywhere.

BTC attracted people because of this feature called, anonymity. Now, it disappeared and nobody is saying a word :)
Where are the "legendary" members to scream agaist GOVs, Illumitati and so on?  They did it years ago. They said Bitcoin will never be like Paypal and here we are. You cannot buy or sell Bitcoin without documents. ;D ;D

The banks are requesting the same documents as Gemeni, Coinbase, etc.

Exchangers are looking for regulations even regulations means NO anonymity
NO anonymity = against Bitcoin's "core" :)

Again, why would someone need BTC in these circumstances while there are credit, debit cards? The banks are asking me the same papers like Gemini, Coinbase are asking.
I can buy anything with credit cards in a blink of eye...without waiting 15 minutes for endless BTC confirmations.
Also, the banks are offering much more security than any "private" wallet....
Agree with you, and for this reason i stopped using xapo and closed my account there when I discovered that I have to give too much paper to get my btc address! (btw didn't revealed my identity when I joined coinbase)
But as I said before, not everyone is caring so much about his identity.

How do you use Coinbase if you are not verified?
Also, why would someone use Bitcoin if they have to reveal his/her identity? Why not using the traditional payment systems like bank wires, credit cards and so on?
BTC is an e-currency and nothing more. Each e-currency must have a little advantage for using it. BTC has a huge time for transaction processing, it's complicated for new comers. On top, you need to provide documents if you want to fund or withdrawn funds from it.

So, what's the advantage now? It was in the past... but "today"?




Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: mexxer-2 on October 09, 2015, 02:21:13 PM

How do you use Coinbase if you are not verified?
Also, why would someone use Bitcoin if they have to reveal his/her identity? Why not using the traditional payment systems like bank wires, credit cards and so on?
BTC is an e-currency and nothing more. Each e-currency must have a little advantage for using it. BTC has a huge time for transaction processing, it's complicated for new comers. On top, you need to provide documents if you want to fund or withdrawn funds from it.

So, what's the advantage now? It was in the past... but "today"?



Coinbase doesn't need you to be verified, being verified just gives you some more features like buying/selling bitcoins, and some other features I may not be aware of. I too use coinbase, at least I did until I got to know about the security threat of using them, i.e I myself am not in control of my address as coinbase has the private keys. Anyway, before I get more off-topic, coinbase allows deposits/withdrawals without being verified


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: neochiny on October 09, 2015, 04:10:20 PM
Hello,

I am new in coinbase, just now I made a transfer from coinbase address to my personal wallet address.  All I have in coinbase is 0.03908 BTC, and I found that I can send this full amount out of coinbase, and I got full amount of 0.03908 BTC to my personal wallet address. But I checked the transaction on blockchain and found the fee is 0.0009 BTC(Fee: 0.0009 BTC - Size: 1837 bytes).  I am confused, did coinbase pay this fee for my transfer?

yes they do pay for they`re users as i am using coinbase as my wallet.
i think theyre trying to gain more costumer again, as they lose most of them because
of the previous issues.


Title: Re: Coinbase pays the fee for its users?
Post by: tennozer on October 09, 2015, 04:58:10 PM



How do you use Coinbase if you are not verified?
Also, why would someone use Bitcoin if they have to reveal his/her identity? Why not using the traditional payment systems like bank wires, credit cards and so on?
BTC is an e-currency and nothing more. Each e-currency must have a little advantage for using it. BTC has a huge time for transaction processing, it's complicated for new comers. On top, you need to provide documents if you want to fund or withdrawn funds from it.

So, what's the advantage now? It was in the past... but "today"?




I only verified my mail and my phone for security issues. I use coinbase only a wallet not an exchange site. Furthermore I can not use that exchange options in my country too.
Is there any site which do not want personal identity verification? Actually I do not know.