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No. There is no way for [Ron Paul] to get 3% on write-ins alone for which he did not ask. Among his supporters: a few will write in his name, some are going to vote for Romney, some will not vote at all, most will vote for Gary Johnson. If Gary Johnson is serious about a 2016 run, HE NEEDS 5% of the popular vote this year.

I met Jim Gray, he said 5% is the goal because that will give them Federal matching funds and ballot access that would effectively establish the Libertarian Party as a serious contender for the forseeable future, even after Johnson. That is why they are working so hard on getting non-Libertarians to vote for him, because it could potentially end the two-party system or bring a major re-alignment era. That is why I am trying to convince the voters in my solidly democratic district in a solidly republican state to vote for Gary Johnson. It is not a "waste of a vote" if we can get above 5%.

We're all intelligent, similarly minded individuals, many of who are fed up with how our politicians do not do the job we elected them to do.

You American "alternative" thinkers make my head hurt.

If you want another system engage in an effort to create another system where voting for a third party actually counts for something. Yes I know that is easier said than done and cannot be obtained using the existing system. You are living under some sort of superiority complex about your granted rights while at same time you are worse off than every European.

There is no "peaceful" solution for this.

The sooner you riot the more chances will your kids get.

There is a peaceful solution (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agorism), but it sure won't get voted in.

granted, IF you get that far you have it.
However: You need to replace the whole infrastructure and given that case nations would no longer serve a purpose.

Not the whole infrastructure. Most of the structures are already in place, just not as powerful or well used as they would be in the end-goal AnCap society.

And what sort of "convincing" you think will be necessary to use any structure occupied or "owned" by the existing system?

Persuading republicans in solidly democrat states and democrats in solidly republican states to vote libertarian is probably your best bet.

You American "alternative" thinkers make my head hurt.

If you want another system engage in an effort to create another system where voting for a third party actually counts for something. Yes I know that is easier said than done and cannot be obtained using the existing system. You are living under some sort of superiority complex about your granted rights while at same time you are worse off than every European.
There is no "peaceful" solution for this.

The sooner you riot the more chances will your kids get.

I just wish Johnson would advertise the 5% goal more, it was a surprise when I heard it from Jim Gray. I guess they don't want to set the expectations low, but I think it gives them a better chance.

Persuading republicans in solidly democrat states and democrats in solidly republican states to vote libertarian is probably your best bet.

This should help... He's bound to agree with either side on some of the issues (not necessarily the same ones): http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm

Actually in most solid rep or dem states this would work with BOTH SIDES.  Take Maryland which is about 20% ahead for Obama....  It really does not matter WHICH side you are on, a vote for Gary Johnson will not change things.  In Maryland it is almost in your interest to vote third party as neither side (dem/rep) pays you much attention at all. 

This point was made in the other voting thread, and you're right. It should actually be pretty easy to get either side to switch, if you can get them to listen for long enough.

Oh, you mean literal infrastructure? I thought you meant things like replacing the military with private security firms and such.

I see no reason to duplicate or replace literal infrastructure.... What were you specifically speaking of?

At some point you'd have to fight them, physically unless you stay completely beyond their radar until it is too late for them. Maybe our ideas of how to accomplish this are actually the same.

What do you do when theres a massive boulder blocking the road ? You drive around it.

So go out and get a liberty-minded individual elected at the local level, and then they will have a better chance of getting elected to a national level later.

FREE STATE PROJECT: You have to give credit to the folks in the Free State Project. They have members on both sides of the ticket in at least one House race.

In Hillsborough 12, which represents Ward 5 in Manchester, Tim O’Flaherty is on the Democratic side of the ticket and Daniel Garthwaite is on the Republican side.

Garthwaite heads research for the board of directors of the NH Liberty Alliance. He and O’Flaherty live at the same Central Street address in Manchester.

On O’Flaherty’s Facebook page, he lists the Free State Project as one of his activities, and he has the website Stateless Governance.

O’Flaherty won the Democratic primary in a recount after initial results showed he had tied former Rep. Richard Komi.

O’Flaherty and Rep. Ted Rokas are the two Democrats in the race, while Garthwaite is the only Republican, so either Garthwaite or O’Flaherty will win a seat unless there is a write-in campaign.

Neither O’Flaherty nor Garthwaite could be reached for comment.

Don Manning, the chairman of the Manchester City Democrats, said he met with O’Flaherty after the primary and learned he was a big advocate of privacy. “He is concerned about government not overreaching into people’s personal lives,” Manning said.

They talked about labor issues and the need to work on legislation that pertains to the city.

“He was a pleasant young man,” Manning said. “It was a positive and upbeat conversation.”