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Title: Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: dangh on October 11, 2015, 11:25:01 PM

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Hey Everybody,
 
We recently created an bitcoin lottery game called BitKong.me (http://BitKong.me) that works like real printed ticket.
 
We invite you to participate in beta testing and help us revealing issues in the game.
 
We did everything to make it fresh :)
 
Provability fair system will insure that everything is fair and clean.
 
No registration required, at the moment works with Bitcoin Testnet.
 
Here where you can get test bitcoins:
http://tpfaucet.appspot.com/
https://testnet.coinfaucet.eu/en/
 
P.S. Works great with Copay Testnet wallet!


Update:
Website now use real bitcoins, for beta period max bet limited to 250 bits, you can use any wallet, but make sure you have correct withdrawal address when using shared wallets.



Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: joksim299 on October 11, 2015, 11:38:48 PM
It is just basic minesweeper game. It looks like there is no house edge at the moment?
I can agree that design is refreshing and provably fair is simple & easy.
I would like to choose between few 'ticket' variants.
I do not like an idea with the non-account system coins can be lost easily.


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: dangh on October 11, 2015, 11:50:17 PM
It is just basic minesweeper game. It looks like there is no house edge at the moment?
I can agree that design is refreshing and provably fair is simple & easy.
I would like to choose between few 'ticket' variants.
I do not like an idea with the non-account system coins can be lost easily.


Hey joksim299 , thanks for your reply, we have house edge on withdrawal 1%, ticket variants are in our plans (3 column tickets and bigger value tickets), you wont lose coins because after 12 hours of inactivity coins will be returned to withdrawal address.

Tutorials are not ready yet, we will explain all in details after beta testing, when we put it live with real bitcoins.


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: joksim299 on October 12, 2015, 12:16:47 AM
It is just basic minesweeper game. It looks like there is no house edge at the moment?
I can agree that design is refreshing and provably fair is simple & easy.
I would like to choose between few 'ticket' variants.
I do not like an idea with the non-account system coins can be lost easily.


Hey joksim299 , thanks for your reply, we have house edge on withdrawal 1%, ticket variants are in our plans (3 column tickets and bigger value tickets), you wont lose coins because after 12 hours of inactivity coins will be returned to withdrawal address.

Tutorials are not ready yet, we will explain all in details after beta testing, when we put it live with real bitcoins.

Withdrawal address by default is our deposit address?
If we deposit using the exchange or other wallets where we do not have access to address form which was used to send, coins will be lost.


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: dangh on October 12, 2015, 12:25:47 AM
It is just basic minesweeper game. It looks like there is no house edge at the moment?
I can agree that design is refreshing and provably fair is simple & easy.
I would like to choose between few 'ticket' variants.
I do not like an idea with the non-account system coins can be lost easily.


Hey joksim299 , thanks for your reply, we have house edge on withdrawal 1%, ticket variants are in our plans (3 column tickets and bigger value tickets), you wont lose coins because after 12 hours of inactivity coins will be returned to withdrawal address.

Tutorials are not ready yet, we will explain all in details after beta testing, when we put it live with real bitcoins.

Withdrawal address by default is our deposit address?
If we deposit using the exchange or other wallets where we do not have access to address form which was used to send, coins will be lost.

Yes, by default it is the first input address of the deposit transaction, you can change it anytime, and it will not be changed in future deposits. I agree, we need some notification to make sure user changed withdraw address. Thanks for your feedback!


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: james.lent on October 12, 2015, 12:32:19 AM
Love the design mate... good job :)


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: dangh on October 12, 2015, 06:31:38 AM
Love the design mate... good job :)

Thanks, we work hard to make sure it's very unique!


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: Bitinity on October 12, 2015, 06:53:08 AM
Do you offer a reward or free btc to anyone who join this beta testing? If no, I think there will be no one interested to join.
No offense, just my opinion


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: The Last Choice on October 12, 2015, 07:10:54 AM
great web, but make the background stay it will better :)

and also with my deposit wallet i can send with my Blockchain.


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: Pony789 on October 12, 2015, 09:36:25 AM
I have some problem verifying my bet, and I would like to know if I did something wrong in the process.

Hash: FA0CDD2ADE57124373BF56A3F13F60E1DB2201FDAA2FA0A4C3567583F3095AC1
Number: AA67C03CC2B48EC04C2C61D30068A46DC449D808D14736DAFC680A6C76492F20
Server Seed: 0111001111

The "Hash" is supposed to be calculated as SHA256(SHA256(Ticket Number + '-' + Server Seed)), but SHA256(AA67C03CC2B48EC04C2C61D30068A46DC449D808D14736DAFC680A6C76492F20-0111001111) is b765049511c7ee93d6ae9dcc9bd9125504cd90925f4ea04cff74b7767f1af76d and
SHA256(b765049511c7ee93d6ae9dcc9bd9125504cd90925f4ea04cff74b7767f1af76d) is 6ee32217ef397baeacc6f04a3024f4b06bac56777bf56bf93a5bc1c25c078fee



Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: WEBcreator on October 12, 2015, 10:18:54 AM
Its a great site. I love to play at that site and I saw someone already win big and it seems it is not that hard to win it right. It is 50 50 chance to play so I will be back later to continue playing it. Btw the background is too dark and shady should make a bright one  ;D


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: Nobitcoin on October 12, 2015, 12:56:03 PM
Sadly would like to have seen your site but waiting for 4 minutes for your site to download on my phone is not acceptable in my case.


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: dangh on October 12, 2015, 05:12:15 PM
great web, but make the background stay it will better :)

and also with my deposit wallet i can send with my Blockchain.

We will be live soon, with real Bitcoins, and you can use Blockchain, do you think background moving too fast? :)


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: dangh on October 12, 2015, 05:49:13 PM
Sadly would like to have seen your site but waiting for 4 minutes for your site to download on my phone is not acceptable in my case.

Sorry to hear that :(

Site is not small (~3MB) but usually loading only few seconds even on phones with 3G.
Can you please let me know model of your phone and connection speed you have used? We will try reproduce and fix issue.


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: joksim299 on October 12, 2015, 06:24:53 PM
Sadly would like to have seen your site but waiting for 4 minutes for your site to download on my phone is not acceptable in my case.

Sorry to hear that :(

Site is not small (~3MB) but usually loading only few seconds even on phones with 3G.
Can you please let me know model of your phone and connection speed you have used? We will try reproduce and fix issue.

Actually the size of BitKong.me is 4.3mB and loading time using broadband connection is 10+ seconds.
You should optimize it.


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: ikydesu on October 12, 2015, 07:42:18 PM
Nice design, i like it, but it's kill more bandwidth :D
Your site is don't need to beta testing anymore right?

Sadly would like to have seen your site but waiting for 4 minutes for your site to download on my phone is not acceptable in my case.

Sorry to hear that :(

Site is not small (~3MB) but usually loading only few seconds even on phones with 3G.
Can you please let me know model of your phone and connection speed you have used? We will try reproduce and fix issue.

Maybe make it mobile friendly is good idea.


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: dangh on October 12, 2015, 08:13:36 PM
Sadly would like to have seen your site but waiting for 4 minutes for your site to download on my phone is not acceptable in my case.

Sorry to hear that :(

Site is not small (~3MB) but usually loading only few seconds even on phones with 3G.
Can you please let me know model of your phone and connection speed you have used? We will try reproduce and fix issue.

Actually the size of BitKong.me is 4.3mB and loading time using broadband connection is 10+ seconds.
You should optimize it.

Yes, we have background sound which is 2mb, which is gradually loading in time of gameplay, and other 800kb image, which we think to change to SVG.

We use best practices in browser caching and also we use CDN for all assets of the website, second load of the website should be around 30-40kb.


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: dangh on October 12, 2015, 08:19:36 PM
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Your site is don't need to beta testing anymore right?

Do you think website have no issues and we can put it live?

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Maybe make it mobile friendly is good idea.

Website fully responsive and mobile/tablet friendly, we just need to reduce first loading size little bit!


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: Don.Corleone on October 12, 2015, 08:24:20 PM
We need some btc to start trying on this loteries site?? Or just visit the site and then give some review here??


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: dangh on October 12, 2015, 09:41:16 PM
We need some btc to start trying on this loteries site?? Or just visit the site and then give some review here??

BitKong is using Testnet Bitcoins (they have no value) which you can obtain here http://tpfaucet.appspot.com/ or https://testnet.coinfaucet.eu/en/ to start playing (you just need to copy your deposit address and paste it in faucet website), and yes, we are looking for reviews and feedback, thank you so much!


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on October 14, 2015, 08:25:03 PM
Amazing site! Even with those worthless coins I was enjoying the game! Sleek design and UX is beautifully done!Loving the game! Hope to play with real money soon!


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: Pony789 on October 18, 2015, 04:58:49 PM
I have some problem verifying my bet, and I would like to know if I did something wrong in the process.

Hash: FA0CDD2ADE57124373BF56A3F13F60E1DB2201FDAA2FA0A4C3567583F3095AC1
Number: AA67C03CC2B48EC04C2C61D30068A46DC449D808D14736DAFC680A6C76492F20
Server Seed: 0111001111

The "Hash" is supposed to be calculated as SHA256(SHA256(Ticket Number + '-' + Server Seed)), but SHA256(AA67C03CC2B48EC04C2C61D30068A46DC449D808D14736DAFC680A6C76492F20-0111001111) is b765049511c7ee93d6ae9dcc9bd9125504cd90925f4ea04cff74b7767f1af76d and
SHA256(b765049511c7ee93d6ae9dcc9bd9125504cd90925f4ea04cff74b7767f1af76d) is 6ee32217ef397baeacc6f04a3024f4b06bac56777bf56bf93a5bc1c25c078fee



Sorry I was busy last week and did not have the time to make an update on this. In fact, I received a PM from OP a week ago (just shortly after I raised the question).

Hey, thanks for verifying bets!

After first SHA256 everything is right as you use UTF8 and result is b765049511c7ee93d6ae9dcc9bd9125504cd90925f4ea04cff74b7767f1af76d, but for second SHA256 no need to use UTF8 as there is no string separator, so input of second SHA256 will be just binary representation first hash.

You can try it in Bitcore playground http://bitcore.io/playground/#/units bitcore.crypto.Hash.sha256(bitcore.util.buffer.hexToBuffer('b765049511c7ee93d6ae9dcc9bd9125504cd90925f4ea04cff74b7767f1af76d'))

And that gives me the exact same hash I received before playing the game. Another way to do that is to use http://www.fileformat.info/tool/hash.htm to do the first hash as string and do the second hash as binary data.


TL;DR: The site is provably fair. The bet verification can be done easily. The OP is helpful and answers my question promptly.


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: Nobitcoin on October 18, 2015, 05:05:36 PM
Still doesn't work on my phone you need to streamline your site this is the second time I tried 4 minutes still no access at all.


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: lite on October 18, 2015, 07:27:13 PM
Wanted to check out the website, but it's in maintenance mode.when it'll be online again?


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: dangh on October 19, 2015, 02:59:13 AM
Amazing site! Even with those worthless coins I was enjoying the game! Sleek design and UX is beautifully done!Loving the game! Hope to play with real money soon!

Thanks! We continuously working on design and UX to make it even better


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: dangh on October 19, 2015, 03:06:56 AM
Wanted to check out the website, but it's in maintenance mode.when it'll be online again?

Website back again, with real bitcoins, it is beta though (max bet amount limited to 250 bits), but fully working and playable, we have some UI issues on the mobile version at the moment.


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: Betwrong on October 19, 2015, 07:59:43 AM
I have some problem verifying my bet, and I would like to know if I did something wrong in the process.

Hash: FA0CDD2ADE57124373BF56A3F13F60E1DB2201FDAA2FA0A4C3567583F3095AC1
Number: AA67C03CC2B48EC04C2C61D30068A46DC449D808D14736DAFC680A6C76492F20
Server Seed: 0111001111

The "Hash" is supposed to be calculated as SHA256(SHA256(Ticket Number + '-' + Server Seed)), but SHA256(AA67C03CC2B48EC04C2C61D30068A46DC449D808D14736DAFC680A6C76492F20-0111001111) is b765049511c7ee93d6ae9dcc9bd9125504cd90925f4ea04cff74b7767f1af76d and
SHA256(b765049511c7ee93d6ae9dcc9bd9125504cd90925f4ea04cff74b7767f1af76d) is 6ee32217ef397baeacc6f04a3024f4b06bac56777bf56bf93a5bc1c25c078fee



Sorry I was busy last week and did not have the time to make an update on this. In fact, I received a PM from OP a week ago (just shortly after I raised the question).

Hey, thanks for verifying bets!

After first SHA256 everything is right as you use UTF8 and result is b765049511c7ee93d6ae9dcc9bd9125504cd90925f4ea04cff74b7767f1af76d, but for second SHA256 no need to use UTF8 as there is no string separator, so input of second SHA256 will be just binary representation first hash.

You can try it in Bitcore playground http://bitcore.io/playground/#/units bitcore.crypto.Hash.sha256(bitcore.util.buffer.hexToBuffer('b765049511c7ee93d6ae9dcc9bd9125504cd90925f4ea04cff74b7767f1af76d'))

And that gives me the exact same hash I received before playing the game. Another way to do that is to use http://www.fileformat.info/tool/hash.htm to do the first hash as string and do the second hash as binary data.


TL;DR: The site is provably fair. The bet verification can be done easily. The OP is helpful and answers my question promptly.

Thanks for the update! So it looks like the site is worth trying.

As far as I understand the site works with Testnet Bitcoins which you can get free and with real bitcoins which you can deposit there right? So, no faucet with real bitcoins?


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: fantoos on October 19, 2015, 11:35:24 AM
Is beta testing over or you still need people to test the site ? I see there some updates were announced today but still it is in beta version and many things to be done like UI issues for mobile users.Is there any reward for beta testers or it is voluntarily ?


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: jangloos on October 19, 2015, 11:40:03 AM
I tried to open this site from android device and still is not corresponding as it should be.Would like to give it a try after fixing the issues by the op.


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: lite on October 19, 2015, 03:19:29 PM
Wanted to check out the website, but it's in maintenance mode.when it'll be online again?

Website back again, with real bitcoins, it is beta though (max bet amount limited to 250 bits), but fully working and playable, we have some UI issues on the mobile version at the moment.
Design is awesome. btw will there be any promotion? i'm gonna play at your website later. :D


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: dangh on October 19, 2015, 06:36:38 PM
Wanted to check out the website, but it's in maintenance mode.when it'll be online again?

Website back again, with real bitcoins, it is beta though (max bet amount limited to 250 bits), but fully working and playable, we have some UI issues on the mobile version at the moment.
Design is awesome. btw will there be any promotion? i'm gonna play at your website later. :D

We are preparing promotions and giveaways after launch later this week, thanks for the interest.


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: bankingbtc on October 19, 2015, 06:42:06 PM
seems to be a pretty interesting game cant wait to try it out with real money


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: dangh on October 19, 2015, 06:44:16 PM
Is beta testing over or you still need people to test the site ? I see there some updates were announced today but still it is in beta version and many things to be done like UI issues for mobile users.Is there any reward for beta testers or it is voluntarily ?

We are ready to pay a bounty (0.1 - 0.4 BTC) for any security bug you found.

(We aware that our API service allow CORS request form any origin  ;))


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: dangh on October 19, 2015, 06:48:34 PM
seems to be a pretty interesting game cant wait to try it out with real money

You already can try it with real bitcoins, we suggest small amounts, up to 10,000 bits, max bet limited to 250 bits, maximum payout amount limited to 232,000 bits.


Title: Re: BitKong.me - Bitcoin Game (beta testing invitation)
Post by: dangh on October 19, 2015, 06:53:52 PM
I have some problem verifying my bet, and I would like to know if I did something wrong in the process.

Hash: FA0CDD2ADE57124373BF56A3F13F60E1DB2201FDAA2FA0A4C3567583F3095AC1
Number: AA67C03CC2B48EC04C2C61D30068A46DC449D808D14736DAFC680A6C76492F20
Server Seed: 0111001111

The "Hash" is supposed to be calculated as SHA256(SHA256(Ticket Number + '-' + Server Seed)), but SHA256(AA67C03CC2B48EC04C2C61D30068A46DC449D808D14736DAFC680A6C76492F20-0111001111) is b765049511c7ee93d6ae9dcc9bd9125504cd90925f4ea04cff74b7767f1af76d and
SHA256(b765049511c7ee93d6ae9dcc9bd9125504cd90925f4ea04cff74b7767f1af76d) is 6ee32217ef397baeacc6f04a3024f4b06bac56777bf56bf93a5bc1c25c078fee



Sorry I was busy last week and did not have the time to make an update on this. In fact, I received a PM from OP a week ago (just shortly after I raised the question).

Hey, thanks for verifying bets!

After first SHA256 everything is right as you use UTF8 and result is b765049511c7ee93d6ae9dcc9bd9125504cd90925f4ea04cff74b7767f1af76d, but for second SHA256 no need to use UTF8 as there is no string separator, so input of second SHA256 will be just binary representation first hash.

You can try it in Bitcore playground http://bitcore.io/playground/#/units bitcore.crypto.Hash.sha256(bitcore.util.buffer.hexToBuffer('b765049511c7ee93d6ae9dcc9bd9125504cd90925f4ea04cff74b7767f1af76d'))

And that gives me the exact same hash I received before playing the game. Another way to do that is to use http://www.fileformat.info/tool/hash.htm to do the first hash as string and do the second hash as binary data.


TL;DR: The site is provably fair. The bet verification can be done easily. The OP is helpful and answers my question promptly.

Thanks for the update! So it looks like the site is worth trying.

As far as I understand the site works with Testnet Bitcoins which you can get free and with real bitcoins which you can deposit there right? So, no faucet with real bitcoins?

Website now works with real bitcoins, we updated it Yesterday, and preparing it for the final bug fixing and launch later this week. We will have "Demo Ticket" to try it for free.