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Just now on BTC-E support has come back online and said they were told MTGOX is behind the DDOS attacks on BTC-E right now.

COMMENTS?!

Just now on BTC-E support has come back online and said they were told MTGOX is behind the DDOS attacks on BTC-E right now.

COMMENTS?!

What? Pictures?

Ah, lol, found it myself:
https://i.imgur.com/0LXum.jpg

Thanks for posting the pics. It's their support saying it, so.....

That's one hell of an accusation to make without evidence, and making it without proving it can only damage BTC-e's reputation.

Explain yourself BTC-e support.

Hard to believe that industry leader will order ddos attack agains competitor with turnouts 20 time smaller. BTC-e has reason to order ddos-atack against MtGox, hoping that some customers will use then as alternative, but not vice versa. So I suppose support was really on drugs) or mistyped somehow))

http://web.archive.org/web/20010605024447/http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm

Folks, a semi-competent script kiddie can drop a billion IP packets on the internet directed to btc-e (for example) with any "from" address you want (like mt-gox).  All the responses will go to the "from" address... so its pretty useless for everything except DDOS attacks.  Smart routers might drop the packets, but I guess not in this case.

This is the most likely explanation...

Folks, a semi-competent script kiddie can drop a billion IP packets on the internet directed to btc-e (for example) with any "from" address you want (like mt-gox).  All the responses will go to the "from" address... so its pretty useless for everything except DDOS attacks.  Smart routers might drop the packets, but I guess not in this case.

This is the most likely explanation...

http://web.archive.org/web/20010605024447/http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm

Seriously, that could be grounds for a lawsuit under slander/libel.

What? Pictures?

Ah, lol, found it myself:
https://i.imgur.com/0LXum.jpg

Folks, a semi-competent script kiddie can drop a billion IP packets on the internet directed to btc-e (for example) with any "from" address you want (like mt-gox).  All the responses will go to the "from" address... so its pretty useless for everything except DDOS attacks.  Smart routers might drop the packets, but I guess not in this case.

This is the most likely explanation...

Yes it could.  That is an extremely serious allegation.  

Edit:  But we don't have the entire conversation.  Support could have said:  "All these rumors about the DDOS need to stop."  And the question could have been asked:  "What is the rumor that is going around?"  And support could have replied: "mtgox ordered it."

One screenshot can be taken completely out of context. 

There is not such a thing as the "from" addresses, these are not mails.

Absolutely not.

There is not such a thing as the "from" addresses, these are not mails.

The attack you are taking about requires exploit (serious ones) on the edge routers among the attacker and the attacked.

No, that's not going to happen nor has happend.

It's simply them being unable to put in place a minimal dos (I think) or ddos (unlikely) protection in place and blaming their ignorance on their competitor to gain some fan.

Stupid move, dear.

Routers are designed to reject these packets.
It's a security flaw if that wouldn't happend.

Impersonation. In the DNS attacks, each attacking host uses the targeted name server's IP address as its source IP address rather than its own. The effect of spoofing IP addresses in this manner is that responses to DNS requests will be returned to the target rather than the spoofing hosts.

Your ISP should lock ips coming from outside their allocated network, same should a server provider.
Quite curious on how easy/hard it's to fake an ip source anyway.

-S <IP_Address> (Spoof source address)
In some circumstances, Nmap may not be able to determine your source address (Nmap will tell you if this is the case). In this situation, use -S with the IP address of the interface you wish to send packets through.

Another possible use of this flag is to spoof the scan to make the targets think that someone else is scanning them. Imagine a company being repeatedly port scanned by a competitor! The -e option and -Pn are generally required for this sort of usage. Note that you usually won't receive reply packets back (they will be addressed to the IP you are spoofing), so Nmap won't produce useful reports.

Yes it could.  That is an extremely serious allegation.  

Edit:  But we don't have the entire conversation.  Support could have said:  "All these rumors about the DDOS need to stop."  And the question could have been asked:  "What is the rumor that is going around?"  And support could have replied: "mtgox ordered it."

One screenshot can be taken completely out of context. 

Thanks, I found it very interesting.

heh - thanks for this nice story from Gibson.. I love that guy scince 1999 :)   This link was such a pleasure to read.. Thanks You MPOE-PR !

It's trivial to generate packets with the wrong source ip, it's not trivial to have some ISP not dropping these packets.

Nobody said it's trivial. Mere possible.
That many DDOS attacks succeed because of poor routing and firewall practices is nothing new.

Seriously, that could be grounds for a lawsuit under slander/libel.

I don't think Russian courts care about slandering Japanese or American businesses doubt this lawsuit would go anywhere. I also doubt Gox would denial of service their competitors when they don't really have any on their level.

More likely some guy had his money seized by BTC-E for shady trading and reacted by slamming their servers and 'support' is just joking with the idiots in chat

Yeah that, it was very tongue in cheek from a non native English speaker. If you've been around and seen the user "support" 's mishandling of dialogue and sense of humor, you know it wasn't a real accusation, just a quip to say they're number two and getting more serious everyday.

Support had no idea who was DDOSing them when asked and assumed it was a random idiot like we all do.

heh - thanks for this nice story from Gibson.. I love that guy scince 1999 :)   This link was such a pleasure to read.. Thanks You MPOE-PR !