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Title: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: paputa on October 13, 2015, 07:56:01 PM Best pps pool with the best profit ?
thank you Title: Re: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: jonnybravo0311 on October 13, 2015, 09:30:01 PM f2pool and antpool are the two biggest players. As far as I know f2pool charges 4%, but gives you some alt coins to help offset it. Antpool charges 2.5% (if their documentation on the support site is to be believed). Nicehash is also a PPS pool, but they work a bit differently than a classic PPS pool. Pretty sure they charge 4% as well. However, you can potentially make more than a standard PPS pool if rental prices are above expected earnings.
Title: Re: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: paputa on October 14, 2015, 07:06:34 AM f2pool and antpool are the two biggest players. As far as I know f2pool charges 4%, but gives you some alt coins to help offset it. Antpool charges 2.5% (if their documentation on the support site is to be believed). Nicehash is also a PPS pool, but they work a bit differently than a classic PPS pool. Pretty sure they charge 4% as well. However, you can potentially make more than a standard PPS pool if rental prices are above expected earnings. thank you !i use nicehash only for buy hash rate, i don't see that is a pool however i have use antpool with nicehash, for 0,01 btc i have earn 0,007 btc but with f2pool have a profit ;D Title: Re: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: jonnybravo0311 on October 14, 2015, 02:11:30 PM If you're renting gear, then you can't very well point it right back at NH :). That leaves you with the other two I mentioned: f2pool and AntPool.
Title: Re: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: notlist3d on October 14, 2015, 03:57:49 PM If you're renting gear, then you can't very well point it right back at NH :). That leaves you with the other two I mentioned: f2pool and AntPool. Antpool is cheaper on PPS rate. But they keep the transmission fees for the devs or something like that. F2Pool has a bigger fee to do PPS. But with it you get transmission fees I believe. So those are the big differences you would really have to do a study of which is best. I will be honest I'm not sure i think it will be close. Title: Re: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: jonnybravo0311 on October 14, 2015, 05:26:48 PM Assuming you mean transaction fee and not transmission fee, that's interesting... how on a PPS pool does one include transaction fees to the miners? How do you determine when paying out a share what that value should be? I mean, it's easy to calculate the value of a share based upon the current network difficulty. Figuring out paying transaction fees to miners is considerably harder.
AntPool's solution is easy: they keep the transaction fees for themselves so they don't have to worry about it ;) Title: Re: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: paputa on October 14, 2015, 06:48:42 PM Assuming you mean transaction fee and not transmission fee, that's interesting... how on a PPS pool does one include transaction fees to the miners? How do you determine when paying out a share what that value should be? I mean, it's easy to calculate the value of a share based upon the current network difficulty. Figuring out paying transaction fees to miners is considerably harder. with antpool i have earned about 0,007 btc( i bought 0,01 btc of hashing power)AntPool's solution is easy: they keep the transaction fees for themselves so they don't have to worry about it ;) with f2pool more 0,01 (a few cents more) Title: Re: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: jonnybravo0311 on October 14, 2015, 07:17:58 PM Are you connected to the PPS payouts for AntPool? All things being equal, a share submitted on f2pool and a share submitted on AntPool is the same value. The difference is in the fees charged, 4% for f2pool and 2.5% for AntPool. Realistically, you should be making more on AntPool from just raw BTC mining. Granted, f2pool tries to make up the difference by providing some merge mined alt coins to you.
The math for calculating the share is easy: block reward divided by current difficulty. So, with the current difficulty, the value of a share is 0.00000000041109BTC. Now you just have to multiply the number of shares you submitted by that to figure your expected payout. For example, if you submitted 100,000,000 shares, your expected payout would be 0.041109BTC. On AntPool, after fees, you'd expect to get 0.04008128BTC (rounded up). On f2pool, you'd expect to get 0.03946464BTC. Unless something catastrophic happened (like a boatload of shares are rejected by the pool), then what you're reporting doesn't make sense. Sounds like perhaps the AntPool code paid you out in the middle of your run and you'd expect to receive another payout for the remainder. Of course, it could simply be that AntPool's code is completely FUBAR :P Title: Re: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: p3yot33at3r on October 14, 2015, 08:08:06 PM Of course, it could simply be that AntPool's code is completely FUBAR :P You nailed it ;) :D Title: Re: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: paputa on October 15, 2015, 01:25:31 AM Are you connected to the PPS payouts for AntPool? All things being equal, a share submitted on f2pool and a share submitted on AntPool is the same value. The difference is in the fees charged, 4% for f2pool and 2.5% for AntPool. Realistically, you should be making more on AntPool from just raw BTC mining. Granted, f2pool tries to make up the difference by providing some merge mined alt coins to you. The math for calculating the share is easy: block reward divided by current difficulty. So, with the current difficulty, the value of a share is 0.00000000041109BTC. Now you just have to multiply the number of shares you submitted by that to figure your expected payout. For example, if you submitted 100,000,000 shares, your expected payout would be 0.041109BTC. On AntPool, after fees, you'd expect to get 0.04008128BTC (rounded up). On f2pool, you'd expect to get 0.03946464BTC. Unless something catastrophic happened (like a boatload of shares are rejected by the pool), then what you're reporting doesn't make sense. Sounds like perhaps the AntPool code paid you out in the middle of your run and you'd expect to receive another payout for the remainder. Of course, it could simply be that AntPool's code is completely FUBAR :P fubar?? what is? ??? however about 12,3 hours increase the difficult of bitcoin so when will mine on f2pool i will receive less bitcoin (but the "system" is automatic? or need the administrator that change settings of pool) Title: Re: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: notlist3d on October 15, 2015, 01:35:57 AM Are you connected to the PPS payouts for AntPool? All things being equal, a share submitted on f2pool and a share submitted on AntPool is the same value. The difference is in the fees charged, 4% for f2pool and 2.5% for AntPool. Realistically, you should be making more on AntPool from just raw BTC mining. Granted, f2pool tries to make up the difference by providing some merge mined alt coins to you. The math for calculating the share is easy: block reward divided by current difficulty. So, with the current difficulty, the value of a share is 0.00000000041109BTC. Now you just have to multiply the number of shares you submitted by that to figure your expected payout. For example, if you submitted 100,000,000 shares, your expected payout would be 0.041109BTC. On AntPool, after fees, you'd expect to get 0.04008128BTC (rounded up). On f2pool, you'd expect to get 0.03946464BTC. Unless something catastrophic happened (like a boatload of shares are rejected by the pool), then what you're reporting doesn't make sense. Sounds like perhaps the AntPool code paid you out in the middle of your run and you'd expect to receive another payout for the remainder. Of course, it could simply be that AntPool's code is completely FUBAR :P fubar?? what is? ??? however about 12,3 hours increase the difficult of bitcoin so when will mine on f2pool i will receive less bitcoin (but the "system" is automatic? or need the administrator that change settings of pool) It will be a tiny change though compared to most. Below is bitwsisdom guess: Bitcoin Difficulty: 60,813,224,039 Estimated Next Difficulty: 60,986,828,255 (+0.29%) Adjust time: After 71 Blocks, About 11.8 hours So if we get that little of a change things will not be affected that much. But yes once they are pumping out S7 for rest of batch 1, and 2+3 likely in future a change that will hurt. Title: Re: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: kano on October 15, 2015, 04:13:23 AM Also note the obvious when comparing TX fees on the pools - some pools mine lots of empty blocks that have no TX fees ...
Title: Re: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: paputa on October 15, 2015, 09:46:30 AM Are you connected to the PPS payouts for AntPool? All things being equal, a share submitted on f2pool and a share submitted on AntPool is the same value. The difference is in the fees charged, 4% for f2pool and 2.5% for AntPool. Realistically, you should be making more on AntPool from just raw BTC mining. Granted, f2pool tries to make up the difference by providing some merge mined alt coins to you. The math for calculating the share is easy: block reward divided by current difficulty. So, with the current difficulty, the value of a share is 0.00000000041109BTC. Now you just have to multiply the number of shares you submitted by that to figure your expected payout. For example, if you submitted 100,000,000 shares, your expected payout would be 0.041109BTC. On AntPool, after fees, you'd expect to get 0.04008128BTC (rounded up). On f2pool, you'd expect to get 0.03946464BTC. Unless something catastrophic happened (like a boatload of shares are rejected by the pool), then what you're reporting doesn't make sense. Sounds like perhaps the AntPool code paid you out in the middle of your run and you'd expect to receive another payout for the remainder. Of course, it could simply be that AntPool's code is completely FUBAR :P fubar?? what is? ??? however about 12,3 hours increase the difficult of bitcoin so when will mine on f2pool i will receive less bitcoin (but the "system" is automatic? or need the administrator that change settings of pool) It will be a tiny change though compared to most. Below is bitwsisdom guess: Bitcoin Difficulty: 60,813,224,039 Estimated Next Difficulty: 60,986,828,255 (+0.29%) Adjust time: After 71 Blocks, About 11.8 hours So if we get that little of a change things will not be affected that much. But yes once they are pumping out S7 for rest of batch 1, and 2+3 likely in future a change that will hurt. thank you very much,but on the pool is automatic the change? Title: Re: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: p3yot33at3r on October 15, 2015, 11:56:21 AM fubar?? what is? ??? Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition..... :) Title: Re: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: paputa on October 15, 2015, 06:28:43 PM now i can't earn with the new difficult... i tried
Title: Re: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: notlist3d on October 15, 2015, 06:32:26 PM now i can't earn with the new difficult... i tried What miner are you using? As the new difficulty was a pretty small increase. Those who were profitable last difficulty in 99.9 percent of time should still be in this one below was jump: Oct 15 2015 60,883,825,480 0.12% 435,823,399 GH/s Title: Re: What is now the pps pool with the best rate? Post by: paputa on October 15, 2015, 09:04:00 PM now i can't earn with the new difficult... i tried What miner are you using? As the new difficulty was a pretty small increase. Those who were profitable last difficulty in 99.9 percent of time should still be in this one below was jump: Oct 15 2015 60,883,825,480 0.12% 435,823,399 GH/s |