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Imperfect Forward Secrecy: How Diffie-Hellman Fails in Practice (https://weakdh.org/imperfect-forward-secrecy-ccs15.pdf) - the best paper of ACM CCS 2015 (http://www.sigsac.org/ccs/CCS2015/) is pretty interesting:

This raises a question: Are you sure that Bitcoin-related websites visited by you are not monitored by NSA? Or maybe you don't care?

Well why should we care about the NSA? I would be more worried about someone somehow using that to break into my account and stealing all of my Bitcoin.

So you don't care, got it.

This is kinda worrying that people can eavesdrop on our communications with any site, but it doesn't seem to be very prevalent. It isn't something that makes up a majority of the sites visited, so I don't think this particular vulnerability is worrying.

I think the NSA has better things to do than monitor everyone's International use of Bitcoin. Until your TX's are linked to suspected terrorist/criminal activity that affect the US or international policies in any way, i think you can put down the Tinfoil hat.

what you said is correct, they have lot of big problems to solve instead of wasting time here until they find any source of work related to this job.

it would be an invasion but this is a public forum so anybody is seeing what we are all doing and there is no hiding that. and as long as i don't get f***ed for just using bitcoin legally i don't care.

besides i agree with VirosaGITS, NSA watching us feels like conspiracy theories.

I don't care at all. I have nothing to hide and to have fear. Everyone who want can read everything I write or everything I do at internet. So no fear from NSA or every kind of Agencies who make the same or similar jobs.  ;)

Cant be that bad eh? I mean as if it's bad enough that governments are able to activate one's camera and microphone on laptops, computers and now mobile phones as confirmed by Snowden ;)

If you read well the question in that is not mentioned this thing answered by you but another. Is is about the things and your habitue on internet and not about things made in your home.  ;) So your answer is out of this topic.  :D

Yet, if you read what the paper suggests.


and check which key exchange algo is used for bitcointalk.org it seems this board is not affected.



I think you missed the news over the last years. They watch everything and everyone.

lets imagine it this way..

lets accept that the NSA has full access to all our data.

dont get me wrong, i dont like 3rd parties having my information. but you have to ask yourself, if you put your information out-there either letting it pass through your ISP or put onto facebook, or having an online bank account as oppose to a bill-by-post account then you are just asking for your data to be spread.

now.. the important part

out of 7 billion people, what are the chances that the NSA would even look at your data specifically, investigating you and looking at everything you do for official reasons?

i personally dont care about NSA having access to my data, because chances are id never be investigated.. but im more concerned about my privacy in regards to random people. even people temping and subcontracted to the NSA, or hackers, or ex-girlfriends trying to get at my data for their own amusement or to use it against me in someway.

so dont worry about the NSA as an institution because unless your doing anything illegal, theres nothing to worry about..
but do worry about the PEOPLE that could get their hands on your data for unofficial reasons. and as i said that can include nsa employee's.

afterall if you personally worked for the police or fbi, wouldnt you be tempted to search out stuff on your neighbour or exgirlfriend..

How naive can you be?


Gee... a user of that "shady, dark web currency"... I would say the chances are significantly higher than average.

Sometimes it's the other way round with big data collections: you might not be investigated specifically, but sometimes political institutions need to leave someone holding the baby. This could be you, because your pattern matches best: guilty by inference.

there are not 7B using internet, that's a naive thinking, more like half of, that, and i'm sure that with a right scrypt they can check those pretty fast

they can monitorize you but don't have the tool to investigate? would be stupid and pointless from their end

but anyway i don't have anything to hide so i'm not worried

Most of us believe this, until you say something on a forum or Facebook or Twitter that they flagged as a possible threat to the USA. The topic could have been flagged out of context, but the software scanning the communication could isolate your words from those 6 billion people.

Simply typing the N$A abbreviation will already flag your post on their database.

The only solution is to stay legal in everything you do, and hope someone will not browse into your privacy for their pleasure and entertainment.

We have seen with the Silkroad case that there are corrupt agents out there, so it is not impossible for people to misuse these systems for their own benefit.

Oh really? If so, would you mind sharing your personal info + address (scanned docs) right here in this post? Would you allow anyone to view your personal emails, text messages, call logs, google search history etc?

Edit: something to consider for all those blue-pilled members who think NSA is all about tracking terrorist and criminals:

http://www.dw.com/en/germany-fears-nsa-stole-industrial-secrets/a-16925289
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37484.htm

Even if they dont mind, its still no argument.

A breach like this will only make the ones who really want to be private to better their efforts to keep out the eavesdroppers,

I Do not like being eavesdropped, but what I do is what I do and at the moment I do not care what others think of it or if they tap into it, they shouldn't, just like when someone in the train besides me is not allowed to watch what is on my phone, I try to guard it with my hand. The NSA is harder to guard against, but technology will catch up. If I ever feel that the things I say or do might get me in trouble because the NSA or any institure thinks what I say or do is 'bad'. I will try harder to conceal. But at the moment, I feel safe enough to say and do as I like. So I might cut myself short here, if I ever digitaly disappear, they know that what I am doing is not meant to be seen and worthy investigating..

So as long as Bitcoin is not linked to being criminal, I will not hide my bitcoin activities for the NSA, though I do think their eavesdropping is a big nuiscance.

https://weakdh.org/
This website is nothing new, it's been around a few weeks the first time I saw it, if not more then a whole month, no?

And anybody can check if the website is protected from this attack.

Cant open the link what does that site do?

what does the title mean because security holes by what means, if you mean cbi or fbi then they have more complicated works then of watching this unnecessary until they find any links with the terrorist or illegal activity.

Agree. I pretty much do not care of people looking or having curiosity, what I do care if when they use it to do harm.

"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say."  -Edward Snowden

I bet you'll be unpleasantly surprised in 15 years during your campaign for the USA president chair when NSA reveals that in 2015 you were watching Zoo section of Brazzers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1209376.msg12703707#msg12703707

:)

So they can crack VPNs? how does that work? Anyway I thought VPNs are subjected to delivering logs, so what's the point anyway. If someone wants true privacy they should use TOR from what i've read, it's the most anonymous internet you can get, and when we have stuff like darkwallet, Bitcoin will be as anonymous.

the best anonymous would be to have your own vpn network, with soem device all over the wordl in hidden location connected via satellite or a close wi-fi

i remember that tor, was not 100% anon, they can actually spy you if they want, and many nodes were blocked from some website

Have full detailed info about this security leak.
Has a small test to see if your browser knows how to implement the "good way" to exchange the crypto info.
And a link to the full paper where the OP extracted the text.

(emphasis mine)

That's a pretty damned big "unless"...

(emphasis mine)

... and a mind-boggling "if".

Why must to do this? Why I must do such kind of job? You are the interested person who want to know those; you find the way to have those.

In my post I tell that I don't care from anything I do in internet. I can tell again this. But I must tell that when I wrote that sentence I had not in mind my emails or other personal stuffs. I meant navigating in internet. Following the way and the normal meaning of the expression used by OP to formulate its question - NSA monitor the bitcoin-related sited. Not the emails or other personal stuffs of the people, not even the people but the activity in the bitcoin-related sites. That it is simple navigation. Then if they find suspicious activity in such monitoring this is another thing. Bitcoin is used mostly in the dark web and I have not visited never this kind of sites. If they are able to find criminals monitoring this kind of bitcoin-related sites I can't do nothing else than congratulating with them.

But to tell the truth even if NSA will learn about my personal things or will read all my emails and learn some other personal things yet I don't care about this. It is another thing if my emails will be read by anyone (as it was understood my post by above poster). This is undesirable and in this point of view my above expression need correction.

If we go again to NSA, I don't think that NSA have the patience and, above all, the time to read all the emails of all the people which are not suspected. And I know that I am not suspected. Have made nothing in my life that can make me suspected person.

As I told above I have nothing to hide to NSA and they, (if want) can read every my email. I can give myself my password to them. Even I know that they read only the suspicious emails taken from key words or phrases. I am sure to not have such. If I have, no problem that NSA read even those. Will read more about me and my correspondence but I have not problem that that kind of people learn more about my "secret" life. My life is healthy and clean in everything. They will not find anything with interests about their job and will not made public those. So no one other will know something.

P.S. I haven't see you links because to tell the truth I don't care about the work of NSA.