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Title: Conservatism is the New Counter-Culture
Post by: Wilikon on October 15, 2015, 08:00:19 PM


https://i.imgur.com/FYje5Uz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ZCPVuO3.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irbu2-kuikA





Title: Re: Conservatism is the New Counter-Culture
Post by: gogxmagog on October 16, 2015, 08:38:50 PM
I know what you are trying to say but "counter-culture" is being used incorrectly. A true "counter-culture" is defined as being a movement in resistance to technocracy. It started with the romantics moved through the bohemians and continued through right up to the hippie movement, they were all about rejecting technology and embracing nature.

What you mean to say is conservatism is the new radicalism.
It isn't
Anarchism is and violent revolution will be its outcome

Conservatism is too puritanical anyways


Title: Re: Conservatism is the New Counter-Culture
Post by: Wilikon on October 16, 2015, 09:03:00 PM
I know what you are trying to say but "counter-culture" is being used incorrectly. A true "counter-culture" is defined as being a movement in resistance to technocracy. It started with the romantics moved through the bohemians and continued through right up to the hippie movement, they were all about rejecting technology and embracing nature.

What you mean to say is conservatism is the new radicalism.
It isn't
Anarchism is and violent revolution will be its outcome

Conservatism is too puritanical anyways

The title is from the video. But I got what he was saying, and i get what you are saying. Personally I am against violence but believe in self defense.



Title: Re: Conservatism is the New Counter-Culture
Post by: SerenaL on October 16, 2015, 09:41:55 PM
But people must differentiate between the typical american conservatives (pro police state, pro war, etc) and a free market, libertarian leaning conservative(classic liberal),


Title: Re: Conservatism is the New Counter-Culture
Post by: Wilikon on October 16, 2015, 10:11:56 PM
But people must differentiate between the typical american conservatives (pro police state, pro war, etc) and a free market, libertarian leaning conservative(classic liberal),


What people? 0bama?

(pro police state, pro war, etc)

https://theintercept.com/drone-papers







Title: Re: Conservatism is the New Counter-Culture
Post by: Corealz on October 17, 2015, 03:16:18 AM
But people must differentiate between the typical american conservatives (pro police state, pro war, etc) and a free market, libertarian leaning conservative(classic liberal),


What people? 0bama?

(pro police state, pro war, etc)

https://theintercept.com/drone-papers






Conservatives and liberals are all the same anymore.


Title: Re: Conservatism is the New Counter-Culture
Post by: Wilikon on October 17, 2015, 03:48:08 AM
But people must differentiate between the typical american conservatives (pro police state, pro war, etc) and a free market, libertarian leaning conservative(classic liberal),


What people? 0bama?

(pro police state, pro war, etc)

https://theintercept.com/drone-papers






Conservatives and liberals are all the same anymore.

I am confused by "same" followed by "anymore". They used to be the same, but not anymore?



Title: Re: Conservatism is the New Counter-Culture
Post by: vero on October 18, 2015, 01:21:38 PM
Conservatives are well known for their charitable giving of both their money and their time. Conservatives prefer to do their own giving rather depend on the government to do it for them. Those first ebola patients from the US were in Africa because they were Christians, not because the US government sent them.


Title: Re: Conservatism is the New Counter-Culture
Post by: designerusa on October 20, 2015, 08:23:43 AM
I would not call that kind of counter culture as conservatism.
It might be called as neo-conservatism and it is really and really different from old xenophobic conservatism. Just evolved one.
Also still there is anarchism stays strong, opposing nearly every conservative value.


Title: Re: Conservatism is the New Counter-Culture
Post by: anthonycamp on October 20, 2015, 08:27:41 AM
im not a uk usa politics guy i mean i strick to left and right wings in portugal but anarchy and liberal are a bit bad extremes if taken to much more anarchy than liberal and theres another things like if its too much you get not healthy into culture mind or soceitey only social anc capital can be good amounts not the conservative not the liberal and more workers a bit too.