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Economy => Lending => Topic started by: LionHeart on October 28, 2012, 04:16:39 PM



Title: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: LionHeart on October 28, 2012, 04:16:39 PM
I was not sure where to post this. I need 24 BTC in total. I have enough to buy via PayPal I can afford 17 and I need to borrow 7. Is there anyone that would be interested in this deal?


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7
Post by: Blazr on October 28, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
You would most likely have to be willing to provide ID for the lender at the very least. Is this something you'd be willing to do?


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7
Post by: LionHeart on October 28, 2012, 04:27:17 PM
You would most likely have to be willing to provide ID for the lender at the very least. Is this something you'd be willing to do?

Absolutely not a problem at all!


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7
Post by: LionHeart on October 28, 2012, 05:18:35 PM
The percentage can be negotiated........anyone??


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7
Post by: Tomatocage on October 28, 2012, 07:11:08 PM
See thread on How to spot a scammer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119896.0), specifically line items #5 and #6.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7
Post by: BCB on October 28, 2012, 07:18:08 PM
Ahhh now I remember this guy.  He's tried to trade with me before and every time i ask him for verification he disappears.  Now I'm all for privacy and anonymity but when you pay with PP both user get real names (if that is indeed your account!).  So not wanting to  supply the requested info that I will receive anyway after the transaction is HIGHLY suspect.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7
Post by: aura.flux on October 28, 2012, 08:14:40 PM
Just filled this loan (26 BTC) to pay back on 11/2/2012 @ 3%. Will see what happens...


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7
Post by: Tomatocage on October 28, 2012, 08:23:10 PM
Just filled this loan (26 BTC) to pay back on 11/2/2012 @ 3%. Will see what happens...
Why? His loan request was for 7 BTC.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7
Post by: LionHeart on October 29, 2012, 12:18:11 AM
Just filled this loan (26 BTC) to pay back on 11/2/2012 @ 3%. Will see what happens...

Confirmed! Loan Received! Thanks Aura.Flux


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: smracer on October 29, 2012, 04:29:14 AM
Check out the general stats between these two geniuses. 


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: Blazr on October 29, 2012, 01:08:06 PM
Thats pretty strange how the same lender has lent to LionHeart in all of his loan requests.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: aura.flux on October 29, 2012, 01:48:27 PM
Wtf is this a 'sherlock Holmes convention'? Get a life, you, fucking troll scum...


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: peepee on October 29, 2012, 01:50:26 PM
Wtf is this a 'sherlock Holmes convention'? Get a life, you, fucking troll scum...

 :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: pat231 on October 29, 2012, 01:53:02 PM
Wtf is this a 'sherlock Holmes convention'? Get a life, you, fucking troll scum...

Wow aren't we a bit touchy. :( But really I agree seems a bit odd.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: Blazr on October 29, 2012, 02:05:27 PM
Wtf is this a 'sherlock Holmes convention'? Get a life, you, fucking troll scum...

Actually, I check the lending section frequently as I occassionally lend out money, and happened to see the other thread as well.

If you'd have been on the forums a bit longer you would see why everyone finds this suspicious, there have been many many people that have ran off with thousands of BTC they scammed from lenders on this forum (shakaru, hell even pirate), and guess how they did it? By taking out and paying back small loans/faking loans & then asking for bigger loans, using the smaller repaid loans as "rep" for the bigger ones.

I'm sure people would appreciate it if you posted the txid's and addresses for the loans & repayments on this thread, as proof that it isn't a fake loan & also so that LionHeart will get a scammer tag if he scams you and doesn't repay.

Here's a nice read as well:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75742.0


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: aura.flux on October 29, 2012, 02:15:56 PM
I'll post it if he scams... In the meanwhile if this txn doesn't sit well with you ask theymos to release my private messages. Maybe they will help you out with your clown-ass suspicions.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: Blazr on October 29, 2012, 02:19:54 PM
I'll post it if he scams... In the meanwhile if this txn doesn't sit well with you ask theymos to release my private messages. Maybe they will help you out with your clown-ass suspicions.

Its your choice, I will warn you though that it has happened before where a scammer tag could not be handed out because it couldn't be proven that the lendee didn't repay the loan as a repayment address wasn't posted.

I honestly don't care if you post it or not, I'm just letting you know that nobody is going to let you use this loan as "rep" for another loan without proof that the loan actually happened at the very least, this isn't the proper procedure for a loan thread.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: aura.flux on October 29, 2012, 02:29:45 PM
Okay, "btc loan genius", what do you do if you plan to have the borrower deposit the coins back into an exchange and you don't have the address yet?


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: Tomatocage on October 29, 2012, 02:30:32 PM
Well, at least we know we won't have to worry about LionHeart ever posting anymore.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: Blazr on October 29, 2012, 02:36:16 PM
Okay, "btc loan genius"

I wouldn't consider myself a genius, but its good to know that others do, thanks very much for the compliment.

what do you do if you plan to have the borrower deposit the coins back into an exchange and you don't have the address yet?

What you do is you make that known in the thread at the very least, so well done for doing that.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: aura.flux on October 29, 2012, 02:56:21 PM
All right, fellas (best intentioned ones)... I am sorry for the tone.  I don't want to spend more time on convincing everybody that I made out a legit loan. I do want to keep txn infos private at least for now. I think it's a good practice. As far as the repayment goes, well, we just have to see what happens. Rest of you, suit yourself basking in the self-esteem boost you get every time you talk shit. Thanks!


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: caffeinewriter on October 30, 2012, 05:54:50 AM
All right, fellas (best intentioned ones)... I am sorry for the tone.  I don't want to spend more time on convincing everybody that I made out a legit loan. I do want to keep txn infos private at least for now. I think it's a good practice. As far as the repayment goes, well, we just have to see what happens. Rest of you, suit yourself basking in the self-esteem boost you get every time you talk shit. Thanks!


You do realize with a little searching I could probably find the TX on blockchain.info no problem. Just post the damned txids. I post mine. It's good for transparency.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: LionHeart on October 30, 2012, 06:30:05 AM
Well, at least we know we won't have to worry about LionHeart ever posting anymore.

Wrong! Here I am and you all are a bunch of assholes :-)

It was a legit loan!!


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: caffeinewriter on October 30, 2012, 06:40:08 AM
Well, at least we know we won't have to worry about LionHeart ever posting anymore.

Wrong! Here I am and you all are a bunch of assholes :-)

It was a legit loan!!

Great! So you won't mind posting the txids for us?


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: Tomatocage on October 30, 2012, 01:52:29 PM
Well, at least we know we won't have to worry about LionHeart ever posting anymore.

Wrong! Here I am and you all are a bunch of assholes :-)

It was a legit loan!!

Great! So you won't mind posting the txids for us?

Crickets


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: SaltySpitoon on October 30, 2012, 01:57:38 PM

I'm sure people would appreciate it if you posted the txid's and addresses for the loans & repayments on this thread, as proof that it isn't a fake loan & also so that LionHeart will get a scammer tag if he scams you and doesn't repay.


You don't have to worry about scamming yourself.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: BCB on October 30, 2012, 01:59:35 PM
...if it smells like dogshit....


starts at :20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY7ZX6ngOSs&noredirect=1


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: abracadabra on October 30, 2012, 02:00:36 PM

I'm sure people would appreciate it if you posted the txid's and addresses for the loans & repayments on this thread, as proof that it isn't a fake loan & also so that LionHeart will get a scammer tag if he scams you and doesn't repay.


You don't have to worry about scamming yourself.

LOL!


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: Blazr on October 30, 2012, 02:25:26 PM
You do realize with a little searching I could probably find the TX on blockchain.info no problem.

You could search for it, every minute, of everyday, for the rest of your life and you wouldn't find it, because its not there. :)


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: aura.flux on October 30, 2012, 03:03:24 PM
You do realize with a little searching I could probably find the TX on blockchain.info no problem.

You could search for it, every minute, of everyday, for the rest of your life and you wouldn't find it, because its not there. :)

You want to put your money on it?


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: caffeinewriter on October 30, 2012, 09:40:35 PM
You do realize with a little searching I could probably find the TX on blockchain.info no problem.

You could search for it, every minute, of everyday, for the rest of your life and you wouldn't find it, because its not there. :)

You want to put your money on it?


Sending money to yourself doesn't count  ::)


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: Tomatocage on October 30, 2012, 10:21:07 PM
This thread is straight comedy  ;D


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: aura.flux on November 03, 2012, 03:09:29 PM
Borrower asked to extend the loan until Sunday, Nov 4.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: smracer on November 03, 2012, 05:59:33 PM
Lol you are still pretending?


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: aura.flux on November 05, 2012, 01:07:24 PM
Okay, borrower did not pay. Unfortunately to me, this was a scam, I have the borrower's "ID" I am not sure if it's real or fake. I am going to ask for scammer tag for this guy and try to find a place to post the ID.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: aura.flux on November 05, 2012, 01:09:38 PM
I'll also post transactions details.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: BurtW on November 05, 2012, 04:00:24 PM
Post everything you have, transactions, ID, etc. and we will see if we can help you out.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: peepee on November 05, 2012, 04:13:53 PM
Okay, borrower did not pay. Unfortunately to me, this was a scam, I have the borrower's "ID" I am not sure if it's real or fake. I am going to ask for scammer tag for this guy and try to find a place to post the ID.

Wtf is this a 'sherlock Holmes convention'? Get a life, you, fucking troll scum...

 :'( :'( :'(


You were warned. Now go get a life crying about your loss, you fucking scammed scum.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: abracadabra on November 05, 2012, 04:20:54 PM
Okay, borrower did not pay. Unfortunately to me, this was a scam, I have the borrower's "ID" I am not sure if it's real or fake. I am going to ask for scammer tag for this guy and try to find a place to post the ID.

wait.. wut?

he scammed himself?

http://www.hockeydrunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/double_facepalm.jpg


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: Tomatocage on November 05, 2012, 06:04:14 PM
I'll also post transactions details.

ROFL no you won't! LOL


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: aura.flux on November 05, 2012, 07:02:24 PM
You were warned. Now go get a life crying about your loss, you fucking scammed scum.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Congratz, and fuck you!!!
I'll also post transactions details.

ROFL no you won't! LOL

And you...


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: aura.flux on November 05, 2012, 07:02:54 PM
Original transaction...
http://blockchain.info/tx/b4575de5ef6f7a079bb01da46fdf55ce930bb83a5caee2b718dacd7ca92c6942

The money eventually ended up in at 1LNWw6yCxkUmkhArb2Nf2MPw6vG7u5WG7q (High BTC volume account)

He was saying something about having something to do with MtGox. Not sure if this address belongs to MtGox.
If it does, there is a chance the scan of the ID I have is also rolled into MtGox verification system. Not sure what MtGox can do for me...

Also, I went through with the loan based on the ID. The age seemed right and the ID was up to date. It definitely belongs to someone.

I still want the money back (this is my third significant loss with BTC).
More and more I get convinced that hoarding is the best investment strategy for bitcoins which is a sad fucking conclusion if you ask me.

Bottom line...
I am going to give him another free 24 hours after that I am posting everything I got on him including private messages.
And will work with whoever to give this fuck a scam tag,

Thanks!


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: Tomatocage on November 05, 2012, 07:30:33 PM
Gosh, he seemed so legit too. It's too bad nobody warned you in advanced.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: Binford 6100 on November 05, 2012, 11:22:25 PM
Wtf is this a 'sherlock Holmes convention'? Get a life, you, fucking troll scum...


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: caffeinewriter on November 06, 2012, 03:26:27 AM
I don't even know what to think anymore.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: caffeinewriter on November 06, 2012, 04:14:19 AM
Also, why haven't you filed a scam report flux.aura? Don't want to report yourself as a scammer?


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: aura.flux on November 06, 2012, 07:03:35 PM
Also, why haven't you filed a scam report flux.aura? Don't want to report yourself as a scammer?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98684.msg1320332#msg1320332

Stay away from dealing with!

Thanks...


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: Tomatocage on November 15, 2012, 08:39:57 PM
LionHeart is still posting, claiming that he's working with aura.flux on repayment. Is this true?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124384.msg1336549#msg1336549

Oh and now he's selling Amazon gift codes!  Surprise surprise! :D  So he now fits line item #7 in the How to spot a scammer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119896.0) guide.


Title: Re: Wtb 17 BTC and Borrow 7 (Closed)
Post by: Tomatocage on November 17, 2012, 09:33:01 PM
I think aura.flux deserves some kind of award...