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Title: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: SunnyIgor on October 17, 2015, 07:29:41 AM
I am getting my bathroom redone completely.

I own a total of 4 water cooled S5's and a C1 for which I'm fixing a radiator system.
Since I like not tot waste the heat completely, how doable do you guys think it will be the get floor heating on my new bathroom?

I first thought of just the C1 as a permanent heater with it's 360 rad. But the floor acts al a big rad aswell 5 m2.
So if I have 5 m2 as radiator my heat will be distributed trough some pipes and up through the floor.

better temps for miners?
nice heated floor bathroom?

also a temp controlled switch could be made when it gets to hot it will activate my radiator cabinet on the balcony.....


just a idea as I am almost finished with my radiator cabinat which will be on the balcony to avoid sauna temps.

wath do you guys think?

Just get the contractor onboard and go for it, seems like he will...
I have about 4 week before he could start.

I need to have a backup plan to add normal floor heating source or whatever in case I sell my appartment.

Really love to hear some opinions on this.

No roi bitching, please




Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: RichBC on October 17, 2015, 07:59:43 AM
I think it's a great idea, always seems such a pity that "Miner Heat" is treated as a problem rather than something to be made use off. I have a conservatory with underfloor heating that has never been connected and have been thinking along similar lines.

A issue I have considered but not resolved in my mind is do you just directly pump the Miner fluid through the underfloor heating pipes or do you use a heat exchanger and keep the mining & underfloor systems separate? I lean towards using a heat exchanger which might also make coping with selling easier. In my case I would then just couple the heat exchanger to the main central heating system.

Will be interested to see how the project progresses.


Rich


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: mavericklm on October 17, 2015, 08:05:33 AM
I like it better than a radiator! but hopefully the floor is sucking more heat.

From what i remember, the temp of the floor should not get over ~25C because all the dust will go up in the air. Also the materials will be put on a big temperature swing if temps are higher...
 
I still enjoy my setup, now only with 1 c2(2*s5 watercooled) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1120213.0


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: SunnyIgor on October 17, 2015, 02:44:23 PM
I don't know if it will be a real project.
just some idea popped in to my mind seeing an unused c1 in the bathroom.
I am looking for some experts opinion on it if it will be doable.
Also just finiched my sick radiator cabitnet.

https://i.imgur.com/VXRdyh2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/H86CQrT.jpg

And I am building a bong tower cooler for even better cooling.
So if the floor gets to hot a switch could send de fluid to the system I originally had in mind.





Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: anamichii on October 17, 2015, 03:55:47 PM
with radiator like that, what about the miner temps? still high or?


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: notlist3d on October 17, 2015, 04:45:28 PM
with radiator like that, what about the miner temps? still high or?

That is a huge area with fans on radiator.    Thanks for sharing I have not seen anyone go to this level before.

How many do you think you will be using with that?  Also with running through floor and miners what coolant are you going to use?


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: beffje on October 17, 2015, 06:56:44 PM
I think it's a good idea to use the heat to but....
You are talking about 3200 watt for your bathroom. Now you can make a buck. But in two years ore less you don't with your S5 set up.
And don't know much about bathrooms. But maybe a bit expensive over a period of 10 years.


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: SunnyIgor on October 18, 2015, 06:57:50 AM
with radiator like that, what about the miner temps? still high or?

That is a huge area with fans on radiator.    Thanks for sharing I have not seen anyone go to this level before.

How many do you think you will be using with that?  Also with running through floor and miners what coolant are you going to use?

these radiators where for my 4 s5 + c1 and looking to expand in s5's, as ik will set it up on a balcony and winter is commming.....
I will have to many cooling and my miners will have to be overclocked to keep them warm :D  :D

As far as the batroom heating goes normaly it would be connected to the radiator or central heating ststem, it think that is just water.


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: SunnyIgor on October 18, 2015, 06:59:55 AM
with radiator like that, what about the miner temps? still high or?

s5 about 50 - 60 overclocked

c1 30 will crap if overclocked


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: SunnyIgor on October 18, 2015, 07:09:46 AM
I think it's a good idea to use the heat to but....
You are talking about 3200 watt for your bathroom. Now you can make a buck. But in two years ore less you don't with your S5 set up.
And don't know much about bathrooms. But maybe a bit expensive over a period of 10 years.


No roi talk, is not relevant in my situation.
and as backup it schould be able to connect to the radiator in the bathroom.

I also dont know anything about bathrooms and or floorheating ;D


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: mavericklm on October 18, 2015, 07:22:16 AM
I also dont know anything about bathrooms and or floorheating ;D

you should not go too high! higher than 30C at floor level means all the dust will go up and the stress of the materials caused by temperature might be too high!


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: notlist3d on October 18, 2015, 07:44:45 AM
I think it's a good idea to use the heat to but....
You are talking about 3200 watt for your bathroom. Now you can make a buck. But in two years ore less you don't with your S5 set up.
And don't know much about bathrooms. But maybe a bit expensive over a period of 10 years.


No roi talk, is not relevant in my situation.
and as backup it schould be able to connect to the radiator in the bathroom.

I also dont know anything about bathrooms and or floorheating ;D

What coolant do you use for this?   Do you use coolant for electrical equipment?

Or is it something else since you would need a lot I'm guessing.


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: SunnyIgor on October 18, 2015, 01:10:04 PM
I think it's a good idea to use the heat to but....
You are talking about 3200 watt for your bathroom. Now you can make a buck. But in two years ore less you don't with your S5 set up.
And don't know much about bathrooms. But maybe a bit expensive over a period of 10 years.


No roi talk, is not relevant in my situation.
and as backup it schould be able to connect to the radiator in the bathroom.

I also dont know anything about bathrooms and or floorheating ;D

What coolant do you use for this?   Do you use coolant for electrical equipment?

Or is it something else since you would need a lot I'm guessing.

I use coolant now, but if my bong water cooling tower is in place.
I think I must use water to evaporate...
If the floor gets to hot, some system or switch should activate either my radiators and or bong cooling.

The normal bathroom heating my parents have is connected to there warm water radiator.
That would only be necessary if I sell my apartment or if bitcoin dies.


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: SunnyIgor on October 18, 2015, 01:24:36 PM
I am going to the hardware store tomorrow who specialize in heating, floor heating and get some more info.

Main thing is miners stay as cool as possible and bathroom floor gets some heating form otherwise wasted heat. I allready have more than enough cooling.

That is also why I am seeking cheap s5's for this water cooling project.
or somebody should make an S7 water cooling kit....

I have 1 s7 with outside air of about 12 degree Celsius and a mini titan for home heating ;D
And maybe I get 1 more s7 if bitmain fixes there shipping issues.

But than the place would be like 25+ degree Celsius


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: sloopy on October 19, 2015, 03:03:34 AM
I think this kind of project is fantastic and there is no doubt some of the world's next best things may come out of someone's heated bathroom floor, or you name it.
I am getting into Solar and now I am starting to see how people do it with a long payback. You start with small amounts and use it for everything which makes sense in your domicile, or wherever. It isn't for everyone, just as many of these situations are not going to be, but for the people who are something like heated bathroom floors or heated floors in general are great for miners.

Figure out how to make them heat and cool, along with a temperature control system which almost any homeowner can integrate to their own central heat and air system. Why not start at the bathroom floor?

Good stuff man, keep it coming.


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: notlist3d on October 19, 2015, 04:37:01 AM
I think this kind of project is fantastic and there is no doubt some of the world's next best things may come out of someone's heated bathroom floor, or you name it.
I am getting into Solar and now I am starting to see how people do it with a long payback. You start with small amounts and use it for everything which makes sense in your domicile, or wherever. It isn't for everyone, just as many of these situations are not going to be, but for the people who are something like heated bathroom floors or heated floors in general are great for miners.

Figure out how to make them heat and cool, along with a temperature control system which almost any homeowner can integrate to their own central heat and air system. Why not start at the bathroom floor?

Good stuff man, keep it coming.

I would agree.  I have seen this talked about many different times. But no one ever ended up doing it.

But OP is actually showing a process of making heated floors from miners.  I cant wait to see what it is in the end of project.


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: SunnyIgor on October 19, 2015, 05:30:08 AM
Thanks for the support ;D

But I will get some expert opinion probably today from the shop, at least a cost price.
What i would like is some (expert)minds helping me along with this. I am complete noob on watercooling and bathroomfloors, otherwise I think I will go with my radiators cabinet outside and bong tower cooling.

But that would be such a waste of the heat :(
Maybe just two s5 water cooled S5's in C1 housing for the bathroom floor would be enough depending on ambient temp

And i am planning to expand my mining farm....


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: SunnyIgor on October 19, 2015, 03:29:21 PM
 :( :( :( :(

400 watt for 5 m2,

was al it could use as permanent heating system.

If the water gets to hot it will squeeze until only little a little bit flows trough the tubes to save tiles

The cost were relative cheap 400 euro for the system but it could only be used for a undervolted c1 or 1 s5 blade.

More advanced systems would be way over budget,

But I might still do it, with the C1 because it is I like warm bathroom feet, ;D

and it's cool ;D

Can c1 be downvolted in firmware or is pencilmod needed?


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: hmblm1245 on October 20, 2015, 02:46:42 PM
Love the idea as i to hate 'wasting' energy. In the past i have seen some pics about dehydrating fruit with some gpu miners. If it leaks or anything do you think the hoa would care?



Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: SunnyIgor on October 20, 2015, 07:06:09 PM
i'm not doing the project, sorry guys we need better ways not to wast the heat.


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: notlist3d on October 20, 2015, 07:24:31 PM
i'm not doing the project, sorry guys we need better ways not to wast the heat.

You made it further then anyone else did it seems by looks.   What was the snag that mad you stop it out of curiosity?

You have peaked my interest.


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: SunnyIgor on October 21, 2015, 06:02:30 AM
i'm not doing the project, sorry guys we need better ways not to wast the heat.

You made it further then anyone else did it seems by looks.   What was the snag that mad you stop it out of curiosity?

You have peaked my interest.

400 watt was al the floor would cool......
for permanent heating for 5m2 bathroomfloor 400 watt was what it took.
If more watt or more heat flows trough the system the fluid will be squished, so the miners will get to hot.
It wil flow against pump direction and he could not find a simple solution to make it go through my other cooling systems.

I have more than 4kW in water cooled miners, so investing 400$ to cool a down clocked undervolted c1, seem a bit dumb.

But than again I would get warm feet at the bathroom.

maybe I'll ask around more and see. ???

I wanted a 5 kW water cooling system which also uses 5m2 bathroom floor but some "expert" says it would need very expensive automated system.


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: mazedk on October 22, 2015, 06:55:25 AM
How about doing a loop that runs through your bathroom floor first, and then through another pump and into your radiators?

If your floor will only disperse 400w and just pass on the rest, you should be good with just running it through more radiators?


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: SunnyIgor on October 22, 2015, 08:01:19 PM
don't know exaxtly but if the water is to hot, the tiles burst. only 30 deree Celius max.
It could be at the end of the loop beore entering miners.
but in general all the water stays about the same temp +- 1 or 2 degree because of the flow.


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: quantumgravity on October 26, 2015, 05:29:41 AM
Very interesting.


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: BitcoinCounty on October 26, 2015, 08:15:38 AM
You need to switch off the floor heat in Summer and switch on in Winter? You need to get find way for dissipating the heat in Summer.


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: moklefasdice on May 30, 2023, 04:47:59 PM
You might live somewhere on the north pole) it would be hell in summers somewhere else, except you mine only winters


Title: Re: bathroom floor heating trough watercooled miners
Post by: hZti on June 14, 2023, 05:50:13 PM
You need to switch off the floor heat in Summer and switch on in Winter? You need to get find way for dissipating the heat in Summer.

Well this should not be a problem at all. The bathroom floor will probably not conduct that much heat. So in order to replace the bathroom floor you can simply hook in a radiator that is mounted on the outside of the building. This radiator must not even be that big in my opinion, and I think if the bathroom is heated in the winter then you would probably still need the radiator outside depending on how many miners you are running.