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there is this user xetr or xetsr who left me a feedback which is quite stupid since i did a trade with the person who supposedly was my alt when i was still a newbie on the forum (few months ago)

i would like that handled please. thanks

Then send Xetsr a PM and get it sorted out. There is nothing the forum can do to help you; trust isn't moderated.

I doubt he'll remove it, but--


--you might have a chance if you show that PM and the transaction IDs of all four trades to xestr.

You've been here for a while now and you still don't know the rules?
This explains it properly. No exceptions for single ratings.

What about a person randomly spam/leave a negative trust to many members?
I mean for example a user come in this topic and give all of us a negative trust writing: ''he took 1000btc  without returning it'' and repeat the same sentence for more than 10 members.
Should we report him?  Or just neglect him since he will not affect our trust points?

Unless it is some bot, spamming it a lot of times on a lot of members, then I doubt that there would be a intervention. This is why feedback is left under 'Untrusted feedback' by default. In order for your feedback to be seen or have an affect (with the default trust list) you have to be in Depth 2 (i.e. under a member from Depth 1). If you abuse your position your would probably get removed by the person above you.

Xetsr is 100% spot on regarding netpyder and nor9865 without any doubt. 

You were defending them in a scam accusation thread and just so happened to trade with the both of them (well you received positive trust from them), so I would say that it would be fairly certain that you are the same person.

I would say that as of when all the positive trust was left, your account was controlled by the same person that xetsr was saying that you were an alt of.

I also have my doubts of being able to produce evidence that the trades your feedback profile claim to have done actually took place, although evidence of such trades is not necessarily evidence of innocence.

example liveandlove15 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=559098 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=559098) left 10 negative senseless and legal basis
feedback, it is not necessary  a intervention?

considering your trust score you should sit in the naughty corner for a moment :)

My trust score is off topic and has nothing to do with your negative trust. However the fact that you bring it up generally is going to mean that your negative trust is legitimate (or at least that there is a high chance that you are w scammer, or at least that I should look into you being a scammer which I did and I concluded that there is a high chance that you are a scammer).

euuhh... okaay. your country needs more detectives like you. have a good one

why you do not take --Encrypted-- advice , and do not show transaction tx,
instead of harassing others.

because any dumb idiot acting like a cop cannot possibly just bother other people and posting accusations without any and i mean ANY proper proof.

this is one thing i dont understand with this forum, its a forum right? right? RIGHT? then why do people act like this forum is all they have left in their life?

For those wondering: Check the post history of the accounts and you'll notice a lot of similarities. I'm not gonna waste my time arguing here as it would be pointless. Guy is just mad that he fucked up and now the hero account he bought is useless.

Negative feedback will not be removed. Don't like it? Message whoever readded me to the DT list (FYI- I never asked to be readded).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=499179
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=458703
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=59502

LOL @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1212840.msg12722859#msg12722859 (https://archive.is/xxFKM) & https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=374845.msg12719858#msg12719858 (scroll down for the post by nor9865) (https://archive.is/MrEYQ)

The US does need more detectives like me, however that is not the industry that I currently work in, and I have very little interest in law enforcement, so I doubt that I will ever become a detective.

I do not think that xetsr is wrong about this one. Some leaps do need to be made to make his conclusion, however I think more likely then not he is going to be correct, and I think that the community will overall be better off with it being warned to be cautious when dealing with you.

Even without your negative trust it would be advisable to use escrow when dealing with you (although you may have been able to trick new users to send first to you), and with his trust others will still trade with you, although they will most likely demand escrow. So xetsr's negative trust is not going to affect you except if your plan was to try to scam someone ::)

indeed it is. but then why are you so mad? it's not like people are trying to dox you or anything.

if i come on your profile and post a couple or alt accusation, would you like it? if yes ok ill do it in a few minutes, if not, then when you dont like it on your account, why should i like it on mine?

refer to my past post about losing 5 btc in a stupid address change where i even gave my pmc to YOU quickseller, refer to my just new paypal account sale which i DEMANDED escrow. netpyder said its not a problem for escrow or no escrow so the deal went on and was smooth.

where is the so called similarities? o.O

That along with the fact OP sells a paypal account with balance (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1212840.0) raises a big red flag. I've left negative feedback too, I wouldn't have noticed this without this thread.

are you kidding me!!!

If you are referring to this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1090800.0;all) thread, then yes, you did claim to lose 5BTC, however you were never able to prove which address the BTC was sent to, nor were able to provide sufficient evidence that BTC was actually lost, nor were able to provide sufficient information to recover BTC.

I also checked my PM history and I can confirm that I have not received any PM's from you except that were discussing my then current avatar, and non that were discussing any kind of loss, nor that were discussing any kind of scam.

Regardless of who I have done business with in the past, and regardless of if I have done business with you in the past, if I think you are an alt of a scammer, and if I think someone is wrong about calling someone out as an alt of a scammer then I will say so. I have given advice regarding trust ratings and administration actions in the past, and such advice was at the very least noted and more commonly specifically acted upon. If you wish to present specific evidence that you are not an alt of that person then feel free to present such evidence.

you can ask shorena for that, everything even my wallet.dat was sent to the user for recovery purposes. and if it wasnt MINE, then why would the 5 coins still be there on the lost address which i provided few minutes after doing the deal. oh well maybe i am stupid to just send 5coins in a lost address and made the whole story.. right?

anyways who ever wants to add to the trust rating, feel free

What shorena was sent was a new wallet seed that was not the one that caused you to leave the 5BTC.

Just because you claim that you lost a certain amount of BTC does not mean that you are not an alt of a scammer, nor does it mean that you actually lost such money.

My advice to anyone who is reading this thread is to not attempt to scam others as your account will likely be tagged as someone who has a likely chance to attempt to scam others which will cause anyone who is attempting to scam others to end up wasting their own time :)

my advice to anyone joining this forum :

Prepare to be misunderstood, ill treated, accused and way more by the very few "wannabe detectives" "law enforcer" "wannabe owner" of this forum

No, a intervention would be pointless in that example. His ratings are hidden by default and he has received a negative one (from a trusted person) himself. This is how he looks for me: