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Title: French news papers asking Google to pay for linking to their content.
Post by: Herodes on October 30, 2012, 06:48:09 PM
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-10/30/google-pay-french-newspapers

Isn't this completely backwards? I mean, what would google lose (if anything), if they just blocked all french news papers from google search results ? Would it not be a much bigger problem for the news papers?

How can a rational person argue that google should  pay for indexing french news papers ? It seems to me it's just a desperate attempt to bring in money to the news papers, which probably are struggling already.

Google are a search engine and brings traffic to these news papers, so to me, it seems like these newspapers are simply shooting themselves in the foot.


Title: Re: French news papers asking Google to pay for linking to their content.
Post by: SgtSpike on October 30, 2012, 07:00:35 PM
I don't think you'll find any argument here.  There is nothing logical about this request.


Title: Re: French news papers asking Google to pay for linking to their content.
Post by: sukiho on October 30, 2012, 07:01:06 PM
google used to be a search engine, now a lot of the search results are paid ads


Title: Re: French news papers asking Google to pay for linking to their content.
Post by: SgtSpike on October 30, 2012, 07:08:38 PM
google used to be a search engine, now a lot of the search results are paid ads
Yes, but this is the other way around.

"In Soviet France, ads pay for you."


Title: Re: French news papers asking Google to pay for linking to their content.
Post by: cedivad on October 30, 2012, 07:23:47 PM
It's a sort of fiat vs bitcoin. Fiat thinks to be shiny and better than bitcoin, truth is that there is a growing number of guys thinking the opposite. Newspapers cannot understand why their secolar business is going down in just under a decade, and push the governments to help them.

Google will simply cut them off if they don't find any good agreement google side.


Title: Re: French news papers asking Google to pay for linking to their content.
Post by: caffeinewriter on October 30, 2012, 07:45:31 PM
Why don't they go the logical route and accept payment in... Oh I don't know... TRAFFIC?


Title: Re: French news papers asking Google to pay for linking to their content.
Post by: Raoul Duke on October 30, 2012, 07:57:30 PM
They can just use
Code:
<meta name="robots" content="noindex">
Or
Code:
<meta name="googlebot" content="noindex">
And problem solved... ::)


Title: Re: French news papers asking Google to pay for linking to their content.
Post by: C10H15N on October 30, 2012, 08:00:25 PM
That doesn't cut a check.   ;D


Title: Re: French news papers asking Google to pay for linking to their content.
Post by: underminer on October 31, 2012, 04:55:18 PM
I've noticed google results are recently 100% more annoying.  Loose synonyms and bairly similar acronyms are listed in the results.  A search for something specific gets corrupted really fast when "tmi" becomes "tmz" and unrelated content clutters the results.  Maybe it's a resistance move by the French, I'm now dependent on an annoying search engine...


Title: Re: French news papers asking Google to pay for linking to their content.
Post by: dunand on October 31, 2012, 05:37:35 PM
They can just use
Code:
<meta name="robots" content="noindex">
Or
Code:
<meta name="googlebot" content="noindex">
And problem solved... ::)

No they want the butter and the money for the butter. They want users to be directed at them but they also want money for this.   8)


Title: Re: French news papers asking Google to pay for linking to their content.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 31, 2012, 05:40:58 PM
They can just use
Code:
<meta name="robots" content="noindex">
Or
Code:
<meta name="googlebot" content="noindex">
And problem solved... ::)

Solves one problem, but creates a bigger one. What company would advertise on a newspaper's website when its content won't be indexed/searchable via Google?

http://www.boldenterprises.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/shot-in-the-foot.jpg


Title: Re: French news papers asking Google to pay for linking to their content.
Post by: malevolent on October 31, 2012, 09:22:24 PM
I don't think you'll find any argument here.  There is nothing logical about this request.

Sure there is. They are French. 
(no offense to all of you normal Frenchies out there :P)


Title: Re: French news papers asking Google to pay for linking to their content.
Post by: k3t3r on October 31, 2012, 10:00:57 PM
not just a niche this would be a cavernous void in the market for someone.


Title: Re: French news papers asking Google to pay for linking to their content.
Post by: Herodes on November 09, 2012, 04:54:21 PM

I LOL'ed so hard!