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I noticed this username MrFudged posting somewhat like a spam with links then I checked the new accounts created today, there's more of them like 5 pages of those MRFudged usernames with 0 posts

here's one post
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1217008.0;topicseen

https://i.imgur.com/2Z5bMHs.jpg

maybe is getting ready to do something big... but if you tell that he posts things like spam (the link you posted on op got removed) most likely is going to do it again on some other thread...

I'm sure mods can get it right with just a single report of their posts, just include the reason you offered in the comments section of reporting, no need to make a new thread about it. They will most likely get a perma ban.

We are aware of him. This guy has been doing this under several usernames so far, but has recently increased his pace. He's very persistent even though his spam post is pretty pointless.
I was wonderwing when someone was going to notice this.

Just report the posts when they make them. Most of them get nuked before they have a chance to post though. Just nuked over 50+ myself.

BTW I've been reporting lots of his threads , most of them get marked good , wondering if it is a hassle for you guys to go through them though. Should I reduce the number of reports I make on him, or should I report every one of his threads?

All should be marked as good as we nuke it. At the moment we have stopped nuking new accounts that have no posts. We were keeping up with him but it required at least 1 person doing this non stop. Reporting the ones that make a post is very helpful. Please keep doing this.

just for curiosity... how many altaccounts of MrFudged have been nuked and how many are still at 0 posts and aren't nuked? because the fact that this guy has 5 entires pages made me think about how he xan manage those.... maybe is just a bot lile the other who posted about the ongoing death of bitcoin in the past?

anyway if i see one of his posts maybe i will report them if is spam as everyone is telling (even if i don't get which kind of useless spam is posting)

We can't really tell you how many we have nuked or how many have not been nuked. It is not 5 pages, you are a bit off. Under his last username there were 50 pages of accounts so about 1500 accounts and there were at least 2 usernames before that. The current username has 80+ pages. So in total more than 4000 accounts.

I just nuked five pages of his accounts this morning but by the time I'd finished there were many more. Not gonna bother now as it's a losing battle and just nuke them as they post/get reported which is quite infrequent so it's not that big of a deal. I think something needs to be changed on the sign-up page though as it is obviously far to easy too create bot accounts here. Maybe better captchas or requiring email validation or something.

i just reported one of his posts... i need to admit that is clearly a confused thing at the beginning and that he didn't even posted it on the right section (maybe because is a bot as i told before?)


you don't have some kind of email check and if on a single email there are more then 2-3 accounts you start to lock them until the same user explain all using an email to the staff?

Well bots do what they are supposed to do, as IIRC KNCminer, which the botmaker(runner) seems to be intensely hating , is on the mining section so would make sense to "warn" others through a thread on the same board.
As for email check I'm pretty sure the bot uses a custom email list and it never uses the same email twice, it may use either its own email domain(which would give it the access to unlimited email addresses) or some temporary email doain like armyspy.com , jourrapide.com and etc.
Lastly, wonder why he is creating new threads instead of posting them in the KNCminer's thread.
P.S: Just reported one thread of his. If he is a bot, I'm nearly one too.

You don't need a valid email to sign up and the same email can't be used twice for signs ups. They probably just use gibberish ones.  

No. You can register any amount of accounts on the same email as far as I know. That is not against the rules. However if you do something against the rules that gets you banned, then all your accounts will be banned.

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Update: My bad.

Confusing eh? Seems you missed on some of the updates lauda, you can't use one email for two accounts. Although you can use the gmail dot trick which is similar to using one email for several accounts.

well lauda everybody can make errors once in a while... in the meanwhile i noticed that another user of the group got active and posted (already got reported because wrong section for reporting a scam, bots have a so bad ai), seems that this isn't gonna end soon or maybe is going to continue for a while (maybe 12 hours or less in my opinion)

AFAIK the bots have been running since 7+ days, and I don't think its gonna stop in a measly 12 hrs. He is probably running it on a VPS with some kind of IP changing service.
P.S: Another report made+ updated my personal message.

well until now i reported something like 3 users with the same message and i'm going to keep an eye even if i'm doing this while i'm supposed to follow an university lession. anyway i didn’t noticed that this thing is going on from over a week.....

There are APIs for temporary emails so I don't think email verification will particuarly help. I'm all for captchas but I seem to remember theymos saying he doesn't like them as somethingsomething external code somethingsomething.

I think I remember him talking about not adding them as they were a DDoS risk or something similar, though I may be thinking of something different. I'd like to hear his full stance on why there shouldn't be captchas.
Then again, it would be finding a secure captcha to use. Even ReCaptcha can be botted pretty easily nowadays. Spending a few dollars will probably get you a few thousand captcha solves.

is it just me or does this guy only creates a new account thread whenever the previous account got nuked?

the number of those accounts may reach 10k in less than a week at this rate.

I'm going to reply to your first assumption. The accounts were once created at a much slower pace. At the moment he's doing ~6 accounts per minute. However, your second asumption is right. I have not see him post from two accounts at the same time. After we nuke the one that posted then he posts from the other one sometime later.

At the moment there are 114 pages of MrFudged. That's about 3.4k accounts created in about 20 hours.

I was about to report this guy here but then I thought mods can handle this already. Anyway I notice the same guy has created a different account name that creates the same thread that this account is posting.

StockholmFkedUp and khan something. no numbers unlike the usual accounts. odd.
also they posted at the same time as another mrfudged account. with numbers.

there goes the 1 thread only theory.

What about the "evil points" for the IP from which these accounts were created? I assume they will be the same ip?
The rate at which the evil points must be accumulating, he should have to pay a small fortune for future sign ups.

Many IP addresses and TOR. So that doesn't really help at the moment.

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Correct. Not sure what he's trying to gain from this.

So he is actually paying to create all those accounts? 3000+ accounts implies he must have paid quite a bit. How much has he actually paid?
He really must hate KNCminer.

It's definitely over 5k accounts right now (3.4k are only MrFudged). As far as the amount of money is concerned, that you would have to ask theymos.

Seems like it. I'm not sure why he's so persistent. If he had made a legit post without spamming it would probably have more effect than this.

Somebody had earlier stated a figure of $0.6 for tor nodes. By those standards. he has paid quite a bit of money.

Question - Can't we ask EyeofSauron (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=411502) to take care of this problem?

Who's that guy? Seems his posts are hidden from public view as well as he has 1 post.

an anti-spam bot account of a mod. guess it might work.

edit:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=957416.0

but why is he doing such stuff ? was he abused by some mod /admin anytime in past ?

Yeah, Theymos shagged his wife and he now wants retribution.
Jokes, he's just a very determined troll who doesn't like that he can't have his own way

No, he was not. Apparently this is because KNC screwed him over if we were to believe his stories. I have no idea what he thinks he's going to get from this. He's very persistent. However, he's alone and we're a team of moderators who can handle this pretty quickly.

Or this:

BTW if it hard for you guys to go on 24 hrs, why not make a bot to do this seeing as the topic name created by the bot is the same everytime, you could make a bot to recognize this and do the moderating for you, only if things have got to the point where you guys can't handle it ofc.
To that I have to say "he" is a bot and you are petty humans xD

The guy created a different username. Same thread posted again. ;D


IiiiGotKillllledBY_KNC18 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=585420)

Lols, this maybe is caused because his thread are reported as soon as they appear or the real guy is suffering from huge despair

We are working on solutions. You can't expect us to come up with a bot that is working and bug free so quickly either. We can take shifts since there is a lot of us, that's not the problem. He can not automate the process since he's getting nuked. He needs many IPs.
What I meant was his post usually gets deleted within minutes. It's not that big of a deal.

Anyway the fact is still that bots somehow are still appearing and now i can't even see what is normal or not,
let me explain:

- In the past there were those various spam threads about the incoming death of bitcoin, all made by users with random letters and numbers
- Then it appeared this one (MrFudged [IDK if we can add even the new nick he is using]) that complains about a scam but in the wrong way (Maybe the original thread if self-modered or he doesn't know the existance of the scam accusation section?)
- Just this morning the Off-topic section got invaded of 3 (Maybe more but all got deleted) of another random thing (Not even connected to something real after all, all voodoo and stuff like that)

Anyway i was thinking... Nukes happens only if the bot is detected, what if there is somekind of checks on the first thread/post everybody makes? I know that may sound a bit hard but is what i was thinking until now

Well I didn't want to sound as hurried as you make it seem from your post, just suggesting that as the topic title is always the same in the spam threads, so maybe you/botmaker should focus on that aspect as it would be less time consuming to do so I believe.

dosent looks like that, he is raping theymos brutally by those off-topicking..

can some one quote this post ,seems like hilar is cheating his signature by keeping the size to 1 pt.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1217017.msg12764370#msg12764370

edit:- BUSTED hilarious... ??? :o >:( :-[ :-\

#AbuseOfPower

This is getting me angry when i check new posts in forum.
How smart is the man that is creating these kind of users.
Or he is creating these from multiple IPs or maybe he found a bug in forum.

Nothing special in my opinion. He's just creating a lot more accounts than the usual spammers. When it comes to the number of posts, it isn't that much higher. He has not found a bug, I doubt that. We know how he's doing it. Don't worry about it. Just report if you encounter a post and ignore it.

^^
I guess that depends on how you define 'a bug.' Pretty sure captchas aren't meant to be bot solvable/bypassable at what? like 2-3 accounts a minute?
BTW, have you tried not deleting the single post he keeps trying to post? Seems like your time could be better spent, but just guessing here.

scammer ....sandco

Anyway our friend doesn't want to give up seems.... I found 2 new thread made from his bots and other 2 that aren't connected to this case but to another case (The post is all in korean and is always 2-3 words [I think] on a long loop).

And, about all this, why there isn't a single thread where we collect all the info about those spammers and their modus operandi? Maybe can help to find them and report them before somebody answers to them

Update:

Our dear friend now started even using the following nick: KNCFracksTheWorld23 (Of course the 23 is just the ID of that bot)

I reported two over in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=14.0 spam from a variant of this name.

It makes no sense if you read the spam.  It's something lost tons due to btc.... btc is a failure.... but here a address to send me BTC.  Just makes no sense call it a failure then ask for BTC to build up what you lost.

I reported something like 12-15 users of MrFudged and i agree on the fact that his posts doesn't make any sense.... But even the fact that some of the links doesn't match with what he was talking about

This guy simply doesn't stop. It's getting rather annoying, but mods are doing a great job. He's now under the name of "BtcCoScammedMe" and using the same "numerals" style after the nickname (something like X_XXXX). I'll keep reporting him/her/it...

He's registering a load of accounts. He either has a nice bot or a lot of time.

Well is true that maybe he has both the things but at least now is going a bit creative about what is visible... but still remain a big bloody spammer, he will stop soon enough
but something bother me more

1. Somebody checked the BTC adress he put on every single thread? Just to be sure that nobody given money to he
2. Maybe he changed the style because the mods applied some kind of filter on the new threads?

I hope we end all this soon because seriously.... I'm getting a bit bored to see on the unread posts since last visit page spammed things.... it makes almost a bad ad for the forum....

Our friend MrFudged is starting again the bot seems.... I just noticed that is making more accounts with the nick BtcCoScammedMeXX_XXXX (Where the X are random numbers), why he refuses to give up? because the bot is too cheap or because doesn't really have a social life?

He started the mass spamming again and this time with a different nick

TheyDidWhat

Anyway seems that he got some BTC on his address but both are from the same person.... somebody has some idea about it because at the same time seems that is from a different wallet and not the same one

Looks like they burn a new account roughly every 4 to 5 minutes.

3 accounts are usually posting every 5 minutes, most of them in Bitcoin Discussion section and the Mining section. He recently changed the message but the links are still there and the word KNC. Sounds like this guy have an axe to grind against the KNC guys.

Yeah but still... nobody knows somebody about the address that paid twice the address cited in all the messages? I don't know but i think maybe can let us see if is connected so something else too....

It appears a new name is being used there were 2 threads under names like "KNCEvilUponUs2088" and second it was like it but different numbers.

Basically a updated message looks with different font in places and a tad of ascii art now.   So changing a little bit.

somehow i think we need to update the op adding all the nicks he is using but not the specific one (because you cited twice KNCEvilUponIs2088) and even start to give a look about who exaclty is this son of a spammer that doesn't want to give up

I dont think we need a list of the names. Due to the message you know when you see one.

I wonder though whether the twitter account they link (well actually they link a message) is involved, but I did not contact them. Maybe I will when I see the next spam post.

We are aware of his (new) naming patterns. I'm still not sure what he thinks he is achieving with this. Anyhow, this is usually dealt with swiftly and is not a big issue at the moment.

I see... anyway some kind of checks to see which kind of bot is using for creating/posting all those things is being done? because he seems using a good bot that knows how to turn around and make another wave...


If you want i will try to contact them to see what the hell is going on and see if are connected or not, even if i would like to see from where he is doing all this dirty things

Why waste your time? He's not going to respond as they are all unmanned bot accounts and it's quite clear they all belong to the same person. There's nothing you can do about it so just let the staff deal with them as they appear.

i think you misunderstood what i wrote before, the bot cites not only an bitcoin address but even twitter account, and i was going to ask to the twitter account and not to one of those bots

Is it possible for you guys to IP ban this guy? Or is he using a VPN? This guy seems pretty sus to me...

Who the heck needs so many accounts? If he's going to sell them, he should at least come up with some good names, not Mrfudged****** (where * is a random number)

Isn't it obvious? I think I've even answered that question here already. A bot in addition to TOR and multiple IPs is what the persom behind it is using. You can't simply IP ban him and get rid of him.

Then if you say he is using TOR and multiple IP why there isn't some kind of filter for spam threads? At the end he posts almost the same thing over and over and if there is a filter it could be possible to slow he down a bit don't you think?

I already have a bot running that nukes all his accounts that aren't proxybanned (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=711968.msg8044683#msg8044683), so the spam should stop (until he switches username, as I don't check the patrol page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent;patrol) yet, but it will do so in the next update). My bots nukes his new accounts within 2 minutes, usually within 1.

Spam filters would slow down the forum and very hard to keep up with. People will always find ways to bypass them or trick them. So you are wasting resources on a losing battle.

I see anyway i'm surprised that at least there is some kind of filter for the accounts of those spammers, i hope in the future i would not see another thread of that guy.... because seriously, i was almost on the edge of a rage attack against that guy

Ok i started checking the twitter account (that was @davidpate8 and @Kncclassaction at the end so i'm going to refer to he using that nick)

The whole thing started as a deal between KncMiners and @davidpate8, this last told that spent +300.000,00$ (I'm not sure if is even true because is tons of money even for me at the end) for the titan machine that was sold by KncMiners, on October 10 2014 (So this fact is one year old, but somehow all the spam for doing so started only this month) he told that wasn't good stuff but was used.

On october 19, @Kncclassaction twitter account appeared and starting with refering an investigation done from the Californa Attorneys for an class action (In fact there is even a website for that class action, but we are going to talk better later)

On october 21 he made a post about MagicalTux suspecting that he is actually running KncMiners and adding the hashtag bankrupt.

On october 23 through @Kncclassaction he used a random news of KncMiners to increase the visibility of his kncclassaction hashtag (and this is the last activity that could need some attention because somehow the only things that happened are some random retwitts and nothing more, i must add that @Kncclassaction last twit was on Febbrary 6)

On november 18 @davidpate8 states that even in the EU he started talking with lawyers for the lawsit against Kncminers

From there on seems that he forgot of the classaction against KncMiners until gen 29 where he tells that he did a partnership with coindesk to cover 1.9 million dollar law suit against KncMiners then another stop talking until April 13 where he says that his lawyers was going to have a talk with Kncminers Lawyer (Because i'm doing the check only on MrFudged aka David pate i'm not gonna check), then another silence break until May 25 where he posts the link to the website (remember that @Kncclassaction last tweet was only on Febbrary 6)

And that's all what i could get from his post history... if somebody notices something else please tell me but let me say 3 things about

1. He states that he paid over 300.000$ for the miners, is that amount of money normal for someone? I don't get the idea of the actual price but it is already a sum of money that could be used for something else or at least he could spent something less.
2. Seems that only he got problems with KncMiners because the only one who spoke after all the media attention was a certain Rune Bergh (Which i can't check because i don't know his language)
3. at the end the hashtag of the class action was used by the @Kncclassaction account and another guy @fudgeyp who seems to be most likely our man but still nothing concrete as a proof that means that he is right....

Damn you guys are fast, I am not even getting a chance to report the posts even if I try doing it in 10 seconds after the thread is made, are you guys running a bot to monitor those threads finally?

I think Mitchell answer your question directly.... Anyway seems that he doesn't want to give up but i will try to contact the supposed class action admin and explain that one of his friends is spamming the whole thing making the class action more like a try to extorce money, even if still spending over 400.000$ for some miners sounds impossible without getting some kind of big job or big loan

Time to add another username to the nuking bot: help******

It's already in my list and already being nuked. ;)

Now that the bot is handling those spam threads, should I stop reporting them?
P.S: Would be great if you could reply to my PM.

Do as you please, but the bot will take care of an account within ~1 minute of it's creation.

i think that mexxer-2 is launching a challenge to your bot Mitchell to see if he can be faster and i have to admit that even i have stopped at reporting all the threads because i don't have even the time to press the report button that is already removed

Just reporting new naming patterns or posts that have been there for a bit longer (e.g. 5 minutes) is enough. There's no need to make this some sort of competition. There are other things that might need more attention.

i know kauda but is what i understood from mexxer-2 message and anyway if this spam campaign now is under control of the nuke bots why the thread isn't locked yet? because there is a possibility that he changes patterns about both nickname and thread?

p.s. i will even try to contact the class action mod so we see if they knows how the credibility of their class action is getting more like to nothing

I'll lock this thread for now since this issue has been addressed and moderators have come up with a good solution to stop this MrFudged guy from posting

Good idea. Now we just need a bot that stops yobit posters  ;D