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Title: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: coinyoo on October 23, 2015, 07:09:21 PM
Hello,

I started an auction over a week ago. The auction is over since a couple of days but the winner does not pay and does not respond to my private messages although he is online every day. What options do I have? Restarting the auction or is there another option? Thanks for your advices.


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on October 23, 2015, 07:12:26 PM
Hello,

I started an auction over a week ago. The auction is over since a couple of days but the winner does not pay and does not respond to my private messages although he is online every day. What options do I have? Restarting the auction or is there another option? Thanks for your advices.

Maybe he decided to not take the thing that you are selling anymore , but it's not really very polite from him to not respond . What you can do now is take the last Bid (the one before the winner) and consider him as the new winner of the auction , if there isn't any you should make another auction .


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: achow101 on October 23, 2015, 07:34:05 PM
You can restart the auction or declare the next highest bidder the winner.


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: notlist3d on October 23, 2015, 08:02:52 PM
You can restart the auction or declare the next highest bidder the winner.

That is assuming next highest bidder still want's it.  They could have moved on since they did not win.  So really this situation could be different in a lot of cases.

Was the winner a low activity account?  Or what kind of account are we talking about?  As you can prevent some by saying if under "X" level contact first before bid.  Prevents a newbie account from messing up a auction.

But there is not much you can do to hold someone to buying if they decided not to.


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: steveds on October 23, 2015, 08:04:01 PM
Hello,

I started an auction over a week ago. The auction is over since a couple of days but the winner does not pay and does not respond to my private messages although he is online every day. What options do I have? Restarting the auction or is there another option? Thanks for your advices.
that was the only bid made in your auction so you have no option left other than making a new thread .
good luck on your sale ...you can leave a neutral feedback on that user about his actions.


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: coinyoo on October 23, 2015, 08:19:59 PM
Exactly, that is the problem. There was only one bid, so i can not claim the next high bidder as the winner.
Why neutral feedback? Actually, he deserves a negative feedback or is negative feedback not allowed for such cases?

Hello,

I started an auction over a week ago. The auction is over since a couple of days but the winner does not pay and does not respond to my private messages although he is online every day. What options do I have? Restarting the auction or is there another option? Thanks for your advices.
that was the only bid made in your auction so you have no option left other than making a new thread .
good luck on your sale ...you can leave a neutral feedback on that user about his actions.


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: Possum577 on October 23, 2015, 08:57:09 PM
I'd also hit him/her up with some negative trust on this Forum. It's lets people know that he/she has backed out on deals.

Then relist your auction and ban this member from making bids (i.e., ignore their bids)


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: vendetahome on October 23, 2015, 08:58:59 PM
i think you should allow to buy it the second bet shouldnt you? though its just my opinion i dont really know how it works


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: jt byte on October 23, 2015, 09:10:12 PM
I also searched few months ago about this,
But didn't find any concrete answers, personally i would put neutral trust.
If that member still continues then he deserve a negative trust at least.
This is more common to newbie which make high bids.


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: boliu on October 23, 2015, 09:12:16 PM
restart the auction, maybe include a disclaimer that if none payment, negative feedback will be left.


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: jackg on October 23, 2015, 09:14:11 PM
Hello,

I started an auction over a week ago. The auction is over since a couple of days but the winner does not pay and does not respond to my private messages although he is online every day. What options do I have? Restarting the auction or is there another option? Thanks for your advices.

If the auction was closed over a week ago. The declared winner and rightful owner of the items, provided they pay, is the second highest bider. If there isn't one then you must restart the action or keep the item(s) for yourself.


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: jt byte on October 23, 2015, 09:20:49 PM
restart the auction, maybe include a disclaimer that if none payment, negative feedback will be left.

If an auction has been for a week or two does it worth restarting it?
It is really annoying and maybe the product you are selling does not worth that much.
And maybe you loose a bit the reputation because of these newbies that bid high.


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: smiletyson on October 23, 2015, 10:39:32 PM
1st: open a scam accusation against that user, and ask for neg trust given to this user from trusted members.
2nd: try to contact 2nd best bidder to sell the product
3rd: if 2nd step fails, then reopen the product for auction.


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: bitbaby on October 24, 2015, 03:49:47 AM
Next time arrange an escrow and ask the bidders to pay a token before they're allowed to bid, this way you can differentiate between real people who are interested in buying the product and trolls. And if the product is still available re-start the auction again.


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: christycalhoun on October 24, 2015, 04:55:47 AM
Hello,

I started an auction over a week ago. The auction is over since a couple of days but the winner does not pay and does not respond to my private messages although he is online every day. What options do I have? Restarting the auction or is there another option? Thanks for your advices.
I would start a new auction if I were you. You can also pm previous bidders if they want to make an offer.


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: Amph on October 24, 2015, 06:26:03 AM
if you're not satisfied with the price besides the winner that is not paying, you have an excuse to have anothr auction and hope for a bigger price

what kind of auction is this ebay ones?


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: coinyoo on October 24, 2015, 07:06:01 AM
Thanks, your first point is very useful. I am going to open an accusation thread [edit: btw, where can i open an accusation thread?]. Second point is not possible, I described it previously, because there is only one bid. Third point will likely be happen :)

1st: open a scam accusation against that user, and ask for neg trust given to this user from trusted members.
2nd: try to contact 2nd best bidder to sell the product
3rd: if 2nd step fails, then reopen the product for auction.


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: mark coins on October 24, 2015, 08:09:53 AM
Thanks, your first point is very useful. I am going to open an accusation thread [edit: btw, where can i open an accusation thread?]. Second point is not possible, I described it previously, because there is only one bid. Third point will likely be happen :)

1st: open a scam accusation against that user, and ask for neg trust given to this user from trusted members.
2nd: try to contact 2nd best bidder to sell the product
3rd: if 2nd step fails, then reopen the product for auction.

post you accusation in this section
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

with this format

Code:
[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]
Copy and paste it in new thread then fill all data.



Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: coinyoo on October 24, 2015, 11:28:11 AM
Thanks for sharing! I pm'ed him a last time. If he do not react at all, I will make a post at the accusation thread.

Thanks, your first point is very useful. I am going to open an accusation thread [edit: btw, where can i open an accusation thread?]. Second point is not possible, I described it previously, because there is only one bid. Third point will likely be happen :)

1st: open a scam accusation against that user, and ask for neg trust given to this user from trusted members.
2nd: try to contact 2nd best bidder to sell the product
3rd: if 2nd step fails, then reopen the product for auction.

post you accusation in this section
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

with this format

Code:
[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]
Copy and paste it in new thread then fill all data.




Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: Laosai on October 24, 2015, 11:37:53 AM
1st: open a scam accusation against that user, and ask for neg trust given to this user from trusted members.
2nd: try to contact 2nd best bidder to sell the product
3rd: if 2nd step fails, then reopen the product for auction.

I doubt that bidder will get a negative trust for such action , I guess that dishonest bidder will get only a neutral feedback from DT with a warning not to accept his/her bid or something like that.
Offtopic: I like your avatar ;D

@OP since you made already an accusation thread, kindly lock this one and people will continue on your new thread. ;)


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: Small on October 24, 2015, 11:58:50 AM
Restart the auction and place a neutral trust against him/her. This would prevent further similar incidents as people are more likely to require a deposit first.


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: michietn94 on December 13, 2015, 03:12:39 AM
I think it is better to start a new auction, and for the person that didnt pay you,

 report it to admin so for next time nobody is scam by tht person


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: Loimu on December 13, 2015, 03:32:34 AM
Yeah there is not really much you can do in this.. Sadly placing a bid on bitcointalk auction doesn't legally bind you to anything. Simply start a new action and get over it.


Title: Re: Auction winner does not pay. What to do?
Post by: notlist3d on December 13, 2015, 04:58:32 AM
I think it is better to start a new auction, and for the person that didnt pay you,

 report it to admin so for next time nobody is scam by tht person

Why did you bump a few month old thread?  There really is not a need of it as this was months ago....

Am I missing something?