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Title: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: namley on June 05, 2011, 06:18:53 AM
Hey I was just curious if anyone has pushed their 5830's over the 311MHash/s Mark.

I have two Sapphire 5830's

Core Clock: 1000MHz
Memory Clock: 320MHz
Average Temp : 60-66C Depending on the Time of day.

Getting 311.4->311.89 using Pheonix Miner in Win7 without Aero

Pheonix settings.
=================
POCLBM
VECTORS
AGGRESSION=12
BFI_INT
WORKSIZE=128
FASTLOOP



Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's
Post by: namley on June 05, 2011, 06:25:18 AM
Sorry, I mean 256WorkSize not 128


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: gigabytecoin on June 05, 2011, 06:41:03 AM
Can you seriously sustain those speeds? Are you changing the voltages?

I can only sustain 950mhz core/300mhz memory at the most.. and even that cuts out after a few hours (with stock voltages).

Are the cards all squeezed into one motherboard or are they separated from each other with cables?


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: namley on June 05, 2011, 06:44:53 AM
Both cards on 1 motherboard no volt mods stock (1.163).

Very tempted to try and see what 1.25V will allow me to overclock the card to, STABILY.

GA P55-USB3 no separation cables. I have Sustained these speeds for about 2 days now.

I ran the cards solid at 1000/300 for about 2weeks, with no issues. Couple days ago decided to try Phoenix miner. After some trial and error found out that POCLBM gives me about 5-8Mhash more then phatk.

I have the Mobo on a tabletop, no case with two 120MM Fans blowing on the cards, with the GPU Cooling Fans at 80%.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: PcChip on June 05, 2011, 06:48:31 AM
Gigabytecoin: TriXX will let you up the voltage to sustain those speeds

Namley: If you're getting more with poclbcm than with PhatK, maybe you have the old Stream SDK? Try 2.4 instead of 2.1


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: SgtSpike on June 05, 2011, 06:53:48 AM
What software did you use to overclock?  Trixx only overclocks one of the cards...


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: gigabytecoin on June 05, 2011, 06:55:24 AM
Both cards on 1 motherboard no volt mods stock (1.163).

Very tempted to try and see what 1.25V will allow me to overclock the card to, STABILY.

GA P55-USB3 no separation cables. I have Sustained these speeds for about 2 days now.

I ran the cards solid at 1000/300 for about 2weeks, with no issues. Couple days ago decided to try Phoenix miner. After some trial and error found out that POCLBM gives me about 5-8Mhash more then phatk.

I have the Mobo on a tabletop, no case with two 120MM Fans blowing on the cards, with the GPU Cooling Fans at 80%.


What operating system are you using?

I am using linuxcion.. and if you set multiple cards to 950/300 then it will freeze guaranteed within a few hours (for myself at least).

How hot are your cards running at full speed?


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: namley on June 05, 2011, 06:57:01 AM
Trixx will only overclock one of the cards, due to the fact, that It would only pair profiles if the card's are Crossfired. I used ATI Tray Tools.

Gigabytecoin: TriXX will let you up the voltage to sustain those speeds

Namley: If you're getting more with poclbcm than with PhatK, maybe you have the old Stream SDK? Try 2.4 instead of 2.1

I'm using SDK 2.1

I actually had issues with 2.4 and my Cards not showing up at all, but that was back using GUIMiner, I'd had to test it out with Phoenix.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: namley on June 05, 2011, 06:58:07 AM
Both cards on 1 motherboard no volt mods stock (1.163).

Very tempted to try and see what 1.25V will allow me to overclock the card to, STABILY.

GA P55-USB3 no separation cables. I have Sustained these speeds for about 2 days now.

I ran the cards solid at 1000/300 for about 2weeks, with no issues. Couple days ago decided to try Phoenix miner. After some trial and error found out that POCLBM gives me about 5-8Mhash more then phatk.

I have the Mobo on a tabletop, no case with two 120MM Fans blowing on the cards, with the GPU Cooling Fans at 80%.


What operating system are you using?

I am using linuxcion.. and if you set multiple cards to 950/300 then it will freeze guaranteed within a few hours (for myself at least).

How hot are your cards running at full speed?

My Cards are running between 62-66C on Full Load


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: pokermon919 on June 05, 2011, 10:27:58 AM
Subscribed to this thread. Interested in 5830 settings as my next rig will consist mostly of them.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's
Post by: gigabytecoin on June 05, 2011, 09:46:12 PM
Sorry, I mean 256WorkSize not 128

There is an "edit" button for every post you create ;)


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: SomeoneWeird on June 05, 2011, 09:49:12 PM
Hey I was just curious if anyone has pushed their 5830's over the 311MHash/s Mark.

I have two Sapphire 5830's

Core Clock: 1000MHz
Memory Clock: 320MHz
Average Temp : 60-66C Depending on the Time of day.

Getting 311.4->311.89 using Pheonix Miner in Win7 without Aero

Pheonix settings.
=================
POCLBM
VECTORS
AGGRESSION=12
BFI_INT
WORKSIZE=128
FASTLOOP



Nice, just ordered 2 of these myself :)

--edit, if your aggression is >7 you should remove fastloop


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: srty on June 06, 2011, 03:21:29 AM
So if I were to get some 5830s, what it the current recommended config?

Catalyst 10.11 with sdk 2.1?
Newest catalyst with sdk 2.4?
linux/windows?

And, under each of those settings, would you be using poclbm or phatk?

I only ask because as time progresses, I notice that what people do changes, and I'm wondering what has been established as "best".


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: jfourmo on June 06, 2011, 04:09:05 AM
So if I were to get some 5830s, what it the current recommended config?

Catalyst 10.11 with sdk 2.1?
Newest catalyst with sdk 2.4?
linux/windows?

And, under each of those settings, would you be using poclbm or phatk?

I only ask because as time progresses, I notice that what people do changes, and I'm wondering what has been established as "best".

I have the same question, but only consider Ubuntu a reasonable option since it's free.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Aqualung on June 06, 2011, 04:11:52 AM
with MSI Afterburner i can set only 885MHz on my 5830.... and get 270MHash/s with phoenix -pathk w=128 agression=12 bfi_int
i think i should try Sapphire Trixx with voltage control...


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: ace24 on June 07, 2011, 01:36:51 AM
So if I were to get some 5830s, what it the current recommended config?

Catalyst 10.11 with sdk 2.1?
Newest catalyst with sdk 2.4?
linux/windows?

And, under each of those settings, would you be using poclbm or phatk?

I only ask because as time progresses, I notice that what people do changes, and I'm wondering what has been established as "best".

Haven't done extensive testing but I'm currently getting about 300Mh/s +/- a few with:

Win 7 x64
Catalyst 11.5
phoenix 1.48/phatk
TriXX to adjust to 996/300 (MSI afterburner couldn't underclock my memory nearly that far)

It's been stable for 24+ hours. Would attempt slightly higher clocks, but I'm not sure its worth it.... already near 25% overclock.

Would love to see some linux results, but as near as I can tell, the clocks I'm getting in windows require a BIOS flash to attain in linux, which just isn't a risk I'm willing to take.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Freakin on June 07, 2011, 02:21:18 AM
Someone hit 320 on this forum. 311 is good


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: donotdisassemble on June 07, 2011, 02:58:10 AM
I have one rig with 2 5830s and just ordered my second with 4 of them... :) 

The two I have were unstable anytime I tried to clock above 970, or memory below its normal 1000... what gives...  how are you guys able to OC them so high and they last for days.  (shrug)


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Freakin on June 07, 2011, 03:05:49 AM
I have one rig with 2 5830s and just ordered my second with 4 of them... :) 

The two I have were unstable anytime I tried to clock above 970, or memory below its normal 1000... what gives...  how are you guys able to OC them so high and they last for days.  (shrug)

different brands overclock differently.  Almost everyone posting the 300+ scores is using the Sapphire card that newegg had on sale for $99-109. 


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: inlikeflynn on June 07, 2011, 03:56:20 AM
At night time when i'm not going to be using my computer, I can crank the Sapphire 5830 up to 319MH/sec running at 62-65C with 1030core/315memory/1174mv
This is only stable if mining is the only thing happening. When in use for other things, I bump it down to 312MH/sec which is stable with other apps running.
I'm curious if this card will even go higher, as it really doesn't have any good airflow at the moment, just a low room temp from being in a basement. 


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Aqualung on June 07, 2011, 04:08:55 AM
with new difficulty i am running my sapphire 5830 at 950/400 with 73C right now... seems stable and gives 290MHashs... don't want to go higher  :)


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: donotdisassemble on June 07, 2011, 03:11:58 PM
I have one rig with 2 5830s and just ordered my second with 4 of them... :) 

The two I have were unstable anytime I tried to clock above 970, or memory below its normal 1000... what gives...  how are you guys able to OC them so high and they last for days.  (shrug)

different brands overclock differently.  Almost everyone posting the 300+ scores is using the Sapphire card that newegg had on sale for $99-109. 

The two I have are sapphires, the ones from newegg...

Quote
with new difficulty i am running my sapphire 5830 at 950/400 with 73C right now... seems stable and gives 290MHashs... don't want to go higher 

I must be going something wrong.  Every time I use Afterburner or trixx to move the Memory clock at all (anything below its default) the whole system freezes and I have to hard reset.  :'(


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: phantastisch on June 07, 2011, 03:19:28 PM
with new difficulty i am running my sapphire 5830 at 950/400 with 73C right now... seems stable and gives 290MHashs... don't want to go higher  :)

My sapphire 5830 runs at 973/325 with 63C , 295 MH/S.
I cant keep her stable after 990.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: AngelusWebDesign on June 07, 2011, 03:27:05 PM
My Sapphire 5830 is at 960/600 @ 70C, getting 290 MHash/s with Phoenix & PhatK, Windows XP

Sapphire is definitely a good manufacturer.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: inlikeflynn on June 07, 2011, 09:00:42 PM

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I must be going something wrong.  Every time I use Afterburner or trixx to move the Memory clock at all (anything below its default) the whole system freezes and I have to hard reset.  :'(

I had the same problem initially and determined it was the full Catalyst Control Center running and not allowing this to happen.
disable it from running on start up and the problem goes away. Enable it again and the who system freezes pretty much instanly
https://i.imgur.com/IhPi1.png


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: AngelusWebDesign on June 07, 2011, 09:04:51 PM
Just to point out something (no one else has)

You seem to be using something more recent than Windows XP.

Am I the only XP user on this forum?

At any rate, I have Catalyst installed -- I installed the whole enchilada -- Catalyst 11.5. And though I'm clocked 965/550, I'm not having any problems at all.

Maybe it's a Windows 7 thing and no one has realized it yet.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: donotdisassemble on June 07, 2011, 09:18:37 PM

Quote
I must be going something wrong.  Every time I use Afterburner or trixx to move the Memory clock at all (anything below its default) the whole system freezes and I have to hard reset.  :'(

I had the same problem initially and determined it was the full Catalyst Control Center running and not allowing this to happen.
disable it from running on start up and the problem goes away. Enable it again and the who system freezes pretty much instanly
https://i.imgur.com/IhPi1.png

thanks, I thought I had done that already.  ill have to double check later, as im away from home and froze my rig up trying something remotely earlier today :(  im losing hashing time here gaddammmmnit.  waiting for my GF to get home and press "reset" for me so I can get back in, lol.  I need a pet monkey or something for this kind of stuff.  ;D


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: d3athrow on June 07, 2011, 09:31:33 PM
my xfx 5830 has been running for 3 weeks at stock voltage 400mhz memory and 1ghz core. never goes over 68c i only get 300mh/s though with phoenix with phatk.

edit: tried worksize 256 and i got 10mh/s more! weird poclbm gave me less with ws at 256.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: donotdisassemble on June 07, 2011, 09:37:27 PM
my xfx 5830 has been running for 3 weeks at stock voltage 400mhz memory and 1ghz core. never goes over 68c i only get 300mh/s though with phoenix with phatk.

edit: tried worksize 256 and i got 10mh/s more! weird poclbm gave me less with ws at 256.

sweet... I hope I can do the same.  ill be very happy if I can get 300mhs out of each of them 24/7 with no issues..


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: kirby9058 on June 07, 2011, 09:46:13 PM
my xfx 5830 has been running for 3 weeks at stock voltage 400mhz memory and 1ghz core. never goes over 68c i only get 300mh/s though with phoenix with phatk.

edit: tried worksize 256 and i got 10mh/s more! weird poclbm gave me less with ws at 256.
My XFX seems to get REALLY unstable after 925mhz core, and I've tried lowering my memory clock to 275mhz. Can I ask what driver version and stream SDK you're using? What software did you use to overclock, and what miner are you using? Trying to push the most out of it if at all possible.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: twitcoins on June 07, 2011, 11:20:15 PM
Yeah, this sounds just about right.  In theory if you supply more voltage this card should be able to hit 1200 core, if you can cool it :D  I'm thinking about taking one of my cards out of the production rig and seeing just how far I can push it.  350 Mhash/s seems just -barely- doable, but would be horrendous for juice and cooling.

I'm also using 2.1 and poclbm, haven't had enough time to play with the latest miner/SDK combos under Ubuntu.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: innervisi0nn on June 07, 2011, 11:46:29 PM
im doing 300 mhashes for each 5830 card via xfx or sapphire with phoenix -phatk.

now on my testbed machine, HAF 922 with 3x sapphire 5830s, check out the temps:

1st card (Top) 73 celcius
2nd card (Middle) 87 celcius
3rd card (Bottom) 65 celcius

What the hell is going on? I get the 2nd card is in the middle and cant breathe, but i have 3x200MM fans blowing and the HAF case is made just for air flow, any ideas?

running 950/320 =\


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: twitcoins on June 07, 2011, 11:54:00 PM
You've got it, that middle card can't breathe.  If the different cards have different types of blowers, might be worth switching up the order.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: innervisi0nn on June 08, 2011, 12:03:54 AM
You've got it, that middle card can't breathe.  If the different cards have different types of blowers, might be worth switching up the order.

They are all duplicate cards, 3x sapphire 5830's. Such a waste if I can get these 3 working. Im doing fine 2x on each machine for 2  machines, but this 3rd rig wont work, 83+ now, totally need to figure something out. How the hell are people shoving 3-4 cards in a case?


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: twitcoins on June 08, 2011, 12:07:26 AM
A lot of people are using cases with more spacing (or no case at all), so they can leave empty slots between the double-wide cards.

Have you manually ramped that hot card to 100% fan?  It's noisy, but it might help you out.  You can also clock it differently than your other two, and spend that juice/cooling on bumping the cooler ones.

I'd imagine a good balance would be where all three temps even out at a level you're comfortable with.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: innervisi0nn on June 08, 2011, 12:12:12 AM
A lot of people are using cases with more spacing (or no case at all), so they can leave empty slots between the double-wide cards.

Have you manually ramped that hot card to 100% fan?  It's noisy, but it might help you out.  You can also clock it differently than your other two, and spend that juice/cooling on bumping the cooler ones.

I'd imagine a good balance would be where all three temps even out at a level you're comfortable with.

That's a good idea. I've messed with the clock rates/mem rates, but it applies it to all 3 cards, need to remove sync.
I couldn't find any mobos out there that have enough space to fit 3 cards + leaving room between cards, this is about 1/2 inch apart if any from each-other.

I've ramped it up to 90%, but I dont want to do 100% if im running 24/7 because the amount of cycles in a fan (itll die on short notice if I do 100% compared to 80/90%) More in it for the long run than short, Ill mess with the middle card clock rates, thanks again buddy!


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Internet151 on June 08, 2011, 02:45:56 AM
I'm trying to overclock my quad Sapphire 5830's with Trixx, yet my changes are only being applied to my 4th gpu. Synchronize cards in multi-gpu configuration is checked in the trixx settings, but doesn't seem to be working. Any ideas?


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: namley on June 08, 2011, 02:55:19 AM
I have one rig with 2 5830s and just ordered my second with 4 of them... :) 

The two I have were unstable anytime I tried to clock above 970, or memory below its normal 1000... what gives...  how are you guys able to OC them so high and they last for days.  (shrug)

different brands overclock differently.  Almost everyone posting the 300+ scores is using the Sapphire card that newegg had on sale for $99-109. 

The two I have are sapphires, the ones from newegg...

Quote
with new difficulty i am running my sapphire 5830 at 950/400 with 73C right now... seems stable and gives 290MHashs... don't want to go higher 

I must be going something wrong.  Every time I use Afterburner or trixx to move the Memory clock at all (anything below its default) the whole system freezes and I have to hard reset.  :'(

Have you tried waiting about 20seconds after the screen freezes? Sometimes its just a driver crash, unless the screen goes black as well.



Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: namley on June 08, 2011, 03:04:18 AM
I have one rig with 2 5830s and just ordered my second with 4 of them... :) 

The two I have were unstable anytime I tried to clock above 970, or memory below its normal 1000... what gives...  how are you guys able to OC them so high and they last for days.  (shrug)

Make sure when your dropping the memory, between 400-600 the card is extremely unstable. The Sapphire 5830, has a power save mode, which underclocks the card to 157/400 I think. ** I know the Core Clock speed is for sure, not the memory clock speeds in powersave mode **

Drop the memory clock all the way down to 300, make sure that the card is running above the powersave 0.9V


MSI Afterburner - Can't do it ** not that I know of anyway **

If your using ATI Tray Tools, set the Voltage profile from 0.9 to 1.163 then save the core clock somewhere between 800-1000 or where every you want, and the memory down to 300

If you bump the core above 828 I found that the card hardlocks using the 0.9V card profile.


Start by adjusting it at 5MHz increments and test for a couple minutes mining, making sure you keep your temps below 80C. You can run the Temps higher, but its not recommended for long term use, especially 24/7 100% utilization lol
When the card starts to studder back it off by 20MHz, then start playing with the AGGRESSION and WORKSIZE and other RPC Miner options.

It takes some playing around with to find the sweet spot for the card in your system, but when you find that hotspot, she's good to go for a long time :), unless some fails of course :P


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: namley on June 08, 2011, 03:13:06 AM
im doing 300 mhashes for each 5830 card via xfx or sapphire with phoenix -phatk.

now on my testbed machine, HAF 922 with 3x sapphire 5830s, check out the temps:

1st card (Top) 73 celcius
2nd card (Middle) 87 celcius
3rd card (Bottom) 65 celcius

What the hell is going on? I get the 2nd card is in the middle and cant breathe, but i have 3x200MM fans blowing and the HAF case is made just for air flow, any ideas?

running 950/320 =\


The HOT back of hte PCB of card 3 is right on top of the intake of the Sapphire Card 2 :)
Card 3 Is Breathing Good and, top is getting ambient temps from card 2.

The bizzare thing I found with Sapphires Cooling system is it exhausts out both back and front. Very odd.


Perhaps invest in a PCIe Riser?
http://cgi.ebay.com/PCI-E-16X-Slot-Riser-Card-Extension-Flex-Relocate-Cable-/160569002257?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2562a88911#ht_2615wt_1139


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: innervisi0nn on June 08, 2011, 06:51:04 AM
im doing 300 mhashes for each 5830 card via xfx or sapphire with phoenix -phatk.

now on my testbed machine, HAF 922 with 3x sapphire 5830s, check out the temps:

1st card (Top) 73 celcius
2nd card (Middle) 87 celcius
3rd card (Bottom) 65 celcius

What the hell is going on? I get the 2nd card is in the middle and cant breathe, but i have 3x200MM fans blowing and the HAF case is made just for air flow, any ideas?

running 950/320 =\


The HOT back of hte PCB of card 3 is right on top of the intake of the Sapphire Card 2 :)
Card 3 Is Breathing Good and, top is getting ambient temps from card 2.

The bizzare thing I found with Sapphires Cooling system is it exhausts out both back and front. Very odd.


Perhaps invest in a PCIe Riser?
http://cgi.ebay.com/PCI-E-16X-Slot-Riser-Card-Extension-Flex-Relocate-Cable-/160569002257?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2562a88911#ht_2615wt_1139

Thanks, never used a PCI-E riser before, ill give it a try, but that means its going to have to sit somewhere else :( bah humbug!

BTW, how many cards you running to get 1,200 mhash/s?

I have to run 2 xfx 5830 and 2 sapphire 5830s, all running 301 mhash each 975/340


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: namley on June 08, 2011, 07:46:42 AM
4x 5830's and more comin


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: thundertoe on June 08, 2011, 07:51:30 AM
Interesting... Is GUIminer holding me back?
i am stable at  -v -w128 1015/300 stock voltage 55c 85% fan  290Mhash. old cheap ass case with 1 good case fan. i will push this card more tomorrow any ideas on getting more Mhash out of it?  multicard setup should go together tomorrow afternoon


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: namley on June 08, 2011, 08:36:35 AM
Interesting... Is GUIminer holding me back?
i am stable at  -v -w128 1015/300 stock voltage 55c 85% fan  290Mhash. old cheap ass case with 1 good case fan. i will push this card more tomorrow any ideas on getting more Mhash out of it?  multicard setup should go together tomorrow afternoon


you can try -v -w128 -r2 -f1, but your machine will become unusable :P

Try Phoenix miner, play around with the settings. In GUI Miner I was able to get 304/s running at 1000/300, what else do you have running? Any maybe cards are getting hot?


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Aqualung on June 08, 2011, 08:47:00 AM
for me the best settings in phoenix are VECTORS BFI_INT AGRESSION=11 and that is it :) no -w 256 or 128, no fastloop
at 950/400 i'm getting 291Mhash


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: zvs on June 08, 2011, 09:32:00 AM
im doing 300 mhashes for each 5830 card via xfx or sapphire with phoenix -phatk.

now on my testbed machine, HAF 922 with 3x sapphire 5830s, check out the temps:

1st card (Top) 73 celcius
2nd card (Middle) 87 celcius
3rd card (Bottom) 65 celcius

What the hell is going on? I get the 2nd card is in the middle and cant breathe, but i have 3x200MM fans blowing and the HAF case is made just for air flow, any ideas?

running 950/320 =\

I have a similar issue w/ two cards, but not so bad.  I have to have my sound card squeezed between my two 5830's so the top card has little airflow.   I just open the case up and put a small floor fan angled to blow air out the back... works wonders.  Probably doesn't even cost a whole lot more in electricity either, since you can lower the fan speed on your cards quite a bit.    Like when my cards were running 63o/72o, that floor fan dropped them to 60o/64o within a minute.  Just like some $15 fan or something that doesn't draw a huge amt of power.

The highest I've ever gotten on my 5830 was ~330 (1050 core).  That only lasted about a few minutes before it froze though, haha.  It'll run "stable" at 1030 core as long as I do absolutely nothing else with my computer, at about 318-319.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: thundertoe on June 08, 2011, 09:36:42 PM
Still stable at 1015/300 55c with 80% fan. squeeked out a few more mhash.. staying over 300 now. changed some extra flags -v -w256 -f5. also turned off aero and other fancy windows stuff. still able to surf the net read the forums etc with some lag. vista64, guiminer.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: sang on June 09, 2011, 02:11:28 AM
1005/300 stock voltage 65c stable. Hitting 310mhash/sec with phoenix and the following attributes:

"-k poclbm DEVICE=1 VECTORS AGGRESSION=12 BFI_INT WORKSIZE=256 FASTLOOP"

Tried lots of combinations, that seemed to be the best. SDK 2.1 w/ 11.5 Cat drivers on Windows 7 64bit.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: fascistmuffin on June 09, 2011, 03:15:07 AM
Trixx will only overclock one of the cards, due to the fact, that It would only pair profiles if the card's are Crossfired. I used ATI Tray Tools.


How were you able to change both cards in ATI Tray Tools? I can only seem to change the card in position 0, and I have the same Sapphire 5830 as you. The cards don't have a crossfire bridge on them, which I'm assuming is what you're doing too, since crossfire doesn't help btc mining.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: kbs2011 on June 09, 2011, 01:06:30 PM
Trixx will only overclock one of the cards, due to the fact, that It would only pair profiles if the card's are Crossfired. I used ATI Tray Tools.


How were you able to change both cards in ATI Tray Tools? I can only seem to change the card in position 0, and I have the same Sapphire 5830 as you. The cards don't have a crossfire bridge on them, which I'm assuming is what you're doing too, since crossfire doesn't help btc mining.

I would also love to know how you can overclock multiple 5830s as I read Trixx only does one.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: airdata on June 09, 2011, 01:23:23 PM

Quote
1st card (Top) 73 celcius
2nd card (Middle) 87 celcius
3rd card (Bottom) 65 celcius

What the hell is going on? I get the 2nd card is in the middle and cant breathe, but i have 3x200MM fans blowing and the HAF case is made just for air flow, any ideas?

running 950/320 =\

I got my new 3x 5830 system up last night and ran into the same problem.

Can somebody suggest how to cool these?  Here's my setup

http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad245/airdatasolutions/IMG_1326-1.jpg


I added a 20-24'' box fan behind the setup but it didn't do much to help the temps.  One of the cards is around 65-70 and the other 2 are high 80's low 90's.

I'm also interested in how I should overclock all of them together.   

Thanks.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: nazgulnarsil on June 09, 2011, 01:37:56 PM
ahhhhhh! get that middle card out of there with a riser!


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: airdata on June 09, 2011, 01:47:28 PM
ahhhhhh! get that middle card out of there with a riser!

:P

Thanks for the response.  I'll see what I can do when I get home.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: SomeoneWeird on June 09, 2011, 01:51:47 PM

Quote
1st card (Top) 73 celcius
2nd card (Middle) 87 celcius
3rd card (Bottom) 65 celcius

What the hell is going on? I get the 2nd card is in the middle and cant breathe, but i have 3x200MM fans blowing and the HAF case is made just for air flow, any ideas?

running 950/320 =\

I got my new 3x 5830 system up last night and ran into the same problem.

Can somebody suggest how to cool these?  Here's my setup

http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad245/airdatasolutions/IMG_1326-1.jpg


I added a 20-24'' box fan behind the setup but it didn't do much to help the temps.  One of the cards is around 65-70 and the other 2 are high 80's low 90's.

I'm also interested in how I should overclock all of them together.   

Thanks.

Yeah, rise the middle card, and buy a desk fan or something and point that at them.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: srty on June 09, 2011, 06:38:24 PM
Im going to be putting my 3 card rig together later today. Do you recommend 64 bit or 32 bit Windows 7?  I can do Ubuntu/Vista/XP/any other OS, but I was getting the gist that Windows 7 was easiest to overclock on...


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: donotdisassemble on June 09, 2011, 10:54:08 PM
I have one rig with 2 5830s and just ordered my second with 4 of them... :) 

The two I have were unstable anytime I tried to clock above 970, or memory below its normal 1000... what gives...  how are you guys able to OC them so high and they last for days.  (shrug)

Make sure when your dropping the memory, between 400-600 the card is extremely unstable. The Sapphire 5830, has a power save mode, which underclocks the card to 157/400 I think. ** I know the Core Clock speed is for sure, not the memory clock speeds in powersave mode **

Drop the memory clock all the way down to 300, make sure that the card is running above the powersave 0.9V


MSI Afterburner - Can't do it ** not that I know of anyway **

If your using ATI Tray Tools, set the Voltage profile from 0.9 to 1.163 then save the core clock somewhere between 800-1000 or where every you want, and the memory down to 300

If you bump the core above 828 I found that the card hardlocks using the 0.9V card profile.


Start by adjusting it at 5MHz increments and test for a couple minutes mining, making sure you keep your temps below 80C. You can run the Temps higher, but its not recommended for long term use, especially 24/7 100% utilization lol
When the card starts to studder back it off by 20MHz, then start playing with the AGGRESSION and WORKSIZE and other RPC Miner options.

It takes some playing around with to find the sweet spot for the card in your system, but when you find that hotspot, she's good to go for a long time :), unless some fails of course :P


YES, Double YES!  thank you.  I can finally clock both cards the way I want and without crashing them.  the key was removing all the crappy tools like afterburner, trixx.  disabling ATI's own processes, and then removing UAC and installing ATI Tray tools as admin on win 7.  Upping the voltage FIRST before playing with RAM speed was the trick! kudos!  im at 980:180:1.163v and runnig stable at about 304Mhs on each card ... woo hoo.   ;D

--edit: Namely: I just sent you a little token of appreciation.  thanks much for the help. -John


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: airdata on June 11, 2011, 06:06:42 AM
Ok... Upon advice here I did remove the middle 5830 and swapped it w\ the 5770 i had in the system next to it.

This didn't help temps at all.

Went to microcenter earlier today and got 2 of these :  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103091  for $5.96ea.  Because of the size of the fans and the orientation of the power plugs, I couldn't put both the same way.  I have the one in the front exhausting hot air upwards and the one in the back is blowing downwards.  Current temps under load are : 53, 61, 79.  Previously it was 91,7X,8X.

http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad245/airdatasolutions/miner.jpg


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Chick on June 11, 2011, 06:33:51 AM
Ok... Upon advice here I did remove the middle 5830 and swapped it w\ the 5770 i had in the system next to it.

This didn't help temps at all.

Went to microcenter earlier today and got 2 of these :  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103091  for $5.96ea.  Because of the size of the fans and the orientation of the power plugs, I couldn't put both the same way.  I have the one in the front exhausting hot air upwards and the one in the back is blowing downwards.  Current temps under load are : 53, 61, 79.  Previously it was 91,7X,8X.

http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad245/airdatasolutions/miner.jpg

I have 3 fans for a 4 5830s with no extenders, doing really well.

I have a 120mm fan sitting on top of the 4 fans, blowing cool air into the seams of cards.
Another fan blowing the hot air from the front exhaust.
And another huge fan (vertical) blowing the back and the heat from the top.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Lightspeed on June 11, 2011, 06:44:14 AM
both of my 5830s are at 990/1000

i have a 5870 + 2x 5830s going on my main pc atm

i put a cunt of plastic between the 5830s and pushed them apart, then i put a noctua 120mm fan blowing down over the intake fans, the 120mm is resting on these awesome rubber mounting things, that happen to be perfect for sitting on hardware... noctua is way to expensive for a BTC rig though


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: BitMinerN8 on June 11, 2011, 08:06:39 PM
I'm trying to overclock my quad Sapphire 5830's with Trixx, yet my changes are only being applied to my 4th gpu. Synchronize cards in multi-gpu configuration is checked in the trixx settings, but doesn't seem to be working. Any ideas?

Yes I am wondering that as well. Does anyone know the best tool to overclock multiple GPUs on Win 7 x64? ???

I have used ATI Tray Tools which works great, got my 5830 to about 303 MHash/s with 300/1000 stable with temps around 68-70, but would like to get the 2nd GPU in the system OC'd as well.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: aceman1011 on June 11, 2011, 08:17:41 PM
I get 325 mh/s with only 850 clock speed. Running poclbm.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: SomeoneWeird on June 12, 2011, 12:32:14 AM
I get 325 mh/s with only 850 clock speed. Running poclbm.

Wow. Nice.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: FreeJAC on June 12, 2011, 12:45:03 AM
These ATI tray tools where do you find them? Is it better or about as good as Trixx?


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: BitMinerN8 on June 12, 2011, 01:32:03 AM
These ATI tray tools where do you find them? Is it better or about as good as Trixx?

I found them here.
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=733

So my rigs are very clean, nothing but Win7x64, ATI drivers and AMD APP SDK Runtime. Then I turn off UAC and install ATI Tray Tools. Then make sure on the Hardware Overclocking you turn up the voltage to 1.163 and hit apply before you start moving the sliders. On my HD 5830 I am stable at Core 1001 and Mem Speed 300, temps stay around 70 to 72 but I do have moderate airflow.

After you get it all dial in and stable you should make a profile by checking the "Include clocks in profile" then clicking save icon. You can then select that profile to load on startup. With this method I am getting 303 MHash/s running Phoenix/phatk with these options:
-k phatk PLATFORM=0 DEVICE=1 VECTORS BFI_INT FASTLOOP=false WORKSIZE=128 AGGRESSION=12

I know other people are getting more, but this is what is stable and has the most yield for me at this time. (And I am way happy with 303 MHash/s as compared to my 6970s which cost like >$200 over the 5830s and barely get 78 MHash/s more...)

The question I have is does anyone know of a OC'ing tool that will handle multiple GPUs?


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: teflone on June 12, 2011, 01:41:20 AM
These ATI tray tools where do you find them? Is it better or about as good as Trixx?

I found them here.
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=733

So my rigs are very clean, nothing but Win7x64, ATI drivers and AMD APP SDK Runtime. Then I turn off UAC and install ATI Tray Tools. Then make sure on the Hardware Overclocking you turn up the voltage to 1.163 and hit apply before you start moving the sliders. On my HD 5830 I am stable at Core 1001 and Mem Speed 300, temps stay around 70 to 72 but I do have moderate airflow.

After you get it all dial in and stable you should make a profile by checking the "Include clocks in profile" then clicking save icon. You can then select that profile to load on startup. With this method I am getting 303 MHash/s running Phoenix/phatk with these options:
-k phatk PLATFORM=0 DEVICE=1 VECTORS BFI_INT FASTLOOP=false WORKSIZE=128 AGGRESSION=12

I know other people are getting more, but this is what is stable and has the most yield for me at this time. (And I am way happy with 303 MHash/s as compared to my 6970s which cost like >$200 over the 5830s and barely get 78 MHash/s more...)

The question I have is does anyone know of a OC'ing tool that will handle multiple GPUs?



YES!!! why is it so hard to find a simple concise answer about over clocking multi gpu WITHOUT crossfire?

Does MSI do it ?, I know trixx dosent cause Im running it


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: BitMinerN8 on June 12, 2011, 02:05:46 AM
These ATI tray tools where do you find them? Is it better or about as good as Trixx?

-SNIP-
I know other people are getting more, but this is what is stable and has the most yield for me at this time. (And I am way happy with 303 MHash/s as compared to my 6970s which cost like >$200 over the 5830s and barely get 78 MHash/s more...)

The question I have is does anyone know of a OC'ing tool that will handle multiple GPUs?


YES!!! why is it so hard to find a simple concise answer about over clocking multi gpu WITHOUT crossfire?

Does MSI do it ?, I know trixx dosent cause Im running it

MSI seems to have a feature when pressing the "Settings" button that allows you to "Synchronize setting for similar graphics processors". My issue is that I am working with multiple type GPUs in one rig and need to OC/change the settings for the 2nd GPU or 3rd GPU if I decide to go crazy with an extender cable to bring out the PCI-E x1 slot. Not sure if I want to go down that road yet for the 3rd. I'm trying to see how much savings I would have just running multiple rigs vs. trying to pack more GPU then two on 1 motherboard. Stability and cooling comes into play, and having to get 1000 Watt power supplies. I guess I'm just old school and like my systems in closed cases with mega fans for air flow. As long as I keep them under 75 to 78 degrees, I think I'm good.

So any OC'ers out there know of this magical tool we seek?  ::)


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: teflone on June 12, 2011, 02:13:51 AM
These ATI tray tools where do you find them? Is it better or about as good as Trixx?

-SNIP-
I know other people are getting more, but this is what is stable and has the most yield for me at this time. (And I am way happy with 303 MHash/s as compared to my 6970s which cost like >$200 over the 5830s and barely get 78 MHash/s more...)

The question I have is does anyone know of a OC'ing tool that will handle multiple GPUs?


YES!!! why is it so hard to find a simple concise answer about over clocking multi gpu WITHOUT crossfire?

Does MSI do it ?, I know trixx dosent cause Im running it

MSI seems to have a feature when pressing the "Settings" button that allows you to "Synchronize setting for similar graphics processors". My issue is that I am working with multiple type GPUs in one rig and need to OC/change the settings for the 2nd GPU or 3rd GPU if I decide to go crazy with an extender cable to bring out the PCI-E x1 slot. Not sure if I want to go down that road yet for the 3rd. I'm trying to see how much savings I would have just running multiple rigs vs. trying to pack more GPU then two on 1 motherboard. Stability and cooling comes into play, and having to get 1000 Watt power supplies. I guess I'm just old school and like my systems in closed cases with mega fans for air flow. As long as I keep them under 75 to 78 degrees, I think I'm good.

So any OC'ers out there know of this magical tool we seek?  ::)

HELP US!!!! might be worth some coinage!!!!!! ;)


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Orcworm on June 12, 2011, 02:41:56 AM
I get 325 mh/s with only 850 clock speed. Running poclbm.

How can that be possible? I'm hitting only 270mh with poclbm on both my 5830s clocked at 900 core, using Afterburner to overclock but anything past 900 (Enabling 'unofficial' overclocking in the config) puts the system in an endless BSOD loop.

Am using these for what it's worth: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-xfx-hd-5830-pci-e-21-%28x16%29-4500mhz-gddr5-gpu-840mhz-1120-cores-dp-2xdl-dvi-i-hdmi


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Fakeman on June 12, 2011, 10:33:48 AM
Must be a different card than the 5830. Maybe 5850?


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: aceman1011 on June 13, 2011, 05:41:40 PM
Sapphire 5830s. I do have PCIE 2.0 2x 16 slots with out extenders. I'm using XP and CCC with the stream kernel analyzer. I can show you my script if you would like.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Fakeman on June 13, 2011, 07:08:23 PM
Yes, please explain further.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: aceman1011 on June 13, 2011, 07:21:09 PM
Ok, I'll post the script in a minute.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: PC Surgeon on June 15, 2011, 03:52:58 AM
From what research I've done in order to overclock multiple GPU's (different clocks, some get better than others) you will have to flash each BIOS individually with the settings desired.

Might want to read up here: http://benchmarks.gr/676/radeon-bios-editor-v127/ and http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/154


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: nixxle on June 15, 2011, 12:16:22 PM
I used to run two seperate boards with both 1x 5830 and got around 290M/s each.

Now, I tied them together with crossfire on a single board, getting 234M/s max on each. Which is bad.

I hope to put in some VGA-dummy-plugs tomorrow, maybe the crossfire is messing things up.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Jdumond on June 16, 2011, 07:44:57 PM
These ATI tray tools where do you find them? Is it better or about as good as Trixx?

-SNIP-
I know other people are getting more, but this is what is stable and has the most yield for me at this time. (And I am way happy with 303 MHash/s as compared to my 6970s which cost like >$200 over the 5830s and barely get 78 MHash/s more...)

The question I have is does anyone know of a OC'ing tool that will handle multiple GPUs?


YES!!! why is it so hard to find a simple concise answer about over clocking multi gpu WITHOUT crossfire?

Does MSI do it ?, I know trixx dosent cause Im running it

MSI seems to have a feature when pressing the "Settings" button that allows you to "Synchronize setting for similar graphics processors". My issue is that I am working with multiple type GPUs in one rig and need to OC/change the settings for the 2nd GPU or 3rd GPU if I decide to go crazy with an extender cable to bring out the PCI-E x1 slot. Not sure if I want to go down that road yet for the 3rd. I'm trying to see how much savings I would have just running multiple rigs vs. trying to pack more GPU then two on 1 motherboard. Stability and cooling comes into play, and having to get 1000 Watt power supplies. I guess I'm just old school and like my systems in closed cases with mega fans for air flow. As long as I keep them under 75 to 78 degrees, I think I'm good.

So any OC'ers out there know of this magical tool we seek?  ::)

HELP US!!!! might be worth some coinage!!!!!! ;)


I am in this same situation 2x 5830's one at 304 mh the other at 260 mh they are nto crossfired and I can only get the OC setting to apply to one of the cards

Perhaps we should throw together a bounty for a detailed explanation on how to overclock multiple cards on the same board without crossfire. I only have 2x 5830's but i would thrown in .5 btc.





dumb Question but, If i were to attach the crossfire cable, and then disable it within CCC, and load trixx to OC both? would the cable merely being their aide in the duplication of the settings? or would be disabling crossfire make the cable and setting adjustments pointless?


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: namley on June 16, 2011, 09:53:00 PM
If your only using 2 Cards, Use ATI Tray Tools.

It allows you to apply requested clocks to 2 Cards, I have not tested it with anymore.

xFire is a bad idea, you loose precious Mhash's


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: sang on June 16, 2011, 11:46:09 PM
Guys... MSI Afterburner supports 2+ cards.

In the settings you can select the card to adjust.

And if all else fails, set the clocks manually with AMD GPU Clock Tool (this is what I use when my other tools fail).


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: kokojie on June 17, 2011, 03:50:53 PM
These ATI tray tools where do you find them? Is it better or about as good as Trixx?

-SNIP-
I know other people are getting more, but this is what is stable and has the most yield for me at this time. (And I am way happy with 303 MHash/s as compared to my 6970s which cost like >$200 over the 5830s and barely get 78 MHash/s more...)

The question I have is does anyone know of a OC'ing tool that will handle multiple GPUs?


YES!!! why is it so hard to find a simple concise answer about over clocking multi gpu WITHOUT crossfire?

Does MSI do it ?, I know trixx dosent cause Im running it

MSI seems to have a feature when pressing the "Settings" button that allows you to "Synchronize setting for similar graphics processors". My issue is that I am working with multiple type GPUs in one rig and need to OC/change the settings for the 2nd GPU or 3rd GPU if I decide to go crazy with an extender cable to bring out the PCI-E x1 slot. Not sure if I want to go down that road yet for the 3rd. I'm trying to see how much savings I would have just running multiple rigs vs. trying to pack more GPU then two on 1 motherboard. Stability and cooling comes into play, and having to get 1000 Watt power supplies. I guess I'm just old school and like my systems in closed cases with mega fans for air flow. As long as I keep them under 75 to 78 degrees, I think I'm good.

So any OC'ers out there know of this magical tool we seek?  ::)

What the hell are you talking about? with MSI afterburner you can easily select exactly which GPU you want to adjust, from the settings menu. There's no need to use "synchronize settings for similar gpu".


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Mousepotato on June 22, 2011, 08:38:23 PM
These ATI tray tools where do you find them? Is it better or about as good as Trixx?

I found them here.
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=733
PMI, but where in the ATI Tray Tools do I find the OC area?


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: teflone on June 22, 2011, 10:18:49 PM
These ATI tray tools where do you find them? Is it better or about as good as Trixx?

I found them here.
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=733
PMI, but where in the ATI Tray Tools do I find the OC area?

in the Performance tab, first option.. overdrive or something like that


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Mousepotato on June 22, 2011, 10:26:41 PM
Thanks I will try that when I get home!


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: murfshake on June 22, 2011, 11:18:53 PM
2x 5830 Sapphire with GUIMiner "-k phatk VECTORS AGGRESSION=12 FASTLOOP WORKSIZE=256 BFI_INT" getting ~290Mhash/s per card 930/300 with open case and a fan blowing on it, staying at 60c.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: trueimage on June 23, 2011, 05:56:19 PM
2x 5830 Sapphire with GUIMiner "-k phatk VECTORS AGGRESSION=12 FASTLOOP WORKSIZE=256 BFI_INT" getting ~290Mhash/s per card 930/300 with open case and a fan blowing on it, staying at 60c.

quoted so I can find this later. ;)


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: trueimage on June 23, 2011, 06:07:10 PM
Ok, I'll post the script in a minute.

in for script running a 5830 @ 325 Mhash/s @ 850 MHz


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: aceman1011 on June 23, 2011, 07:36:04 PM
I was actually using the standard script for poclbm, -v -w 128. I don't think that that was correct because that's deepbit said 650, and when I checked it half an hour later it said 450. Probably just a bad measuring script.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Mousepotato on June 23, 2011, 07:54:10 PM
Ok I got things running with my 5830.  Results so far: 305MH/s @ 990/355, Phoenix 1.50, Catalyst 11.5, SDK 2.4. 


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Mousepotato on June 23, 2011, 07:56:39 PM
I was actually using the standard script for poclbm, -v -w 128. I don't think that that was correct because that's deepbit said 650, and when I checked it half an hour later it said 450. Probably just a bad measuring script.
So you're going by the MH/s average that Deepbit displays?  No wonder you're getting 325 :)


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: styrfoem on June 23, 2011, 08:01:07 PM
Both cards on 1 motherboard no volt mods stock (1.163).

Very tempted to try and see what 1.25V will allow me to overclock the card to, STABILY.

GA P55-USB3 no separation cables. I have Sustained these speeds for about 2 days now.

I ran the cards solid at 1000/300 for about 2weeks, with no issues. Couple days ago decided to try Phoenix miner. After some trial and error found out that POCLBM gives me about 5-8Mhash more then phatk.

I have the Mobo on a tabletop, no case with two 120MM Fans blowing on the cards, with the GPU Cooling Fans at 80%.


from my experience on the Sapphire cards, the voltage cannot be overclocked without manually modding the board... if anyone knows differently please enlighten me.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Roland68 on June 23, 2011, 08:05:14 PM
Trixx software version 4.1 let us change voltage at 5830 ...

(that is what the software says ...=) i don't know if it really change it !


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: gigica viteazu` on June 23, 2011, 10:10:48 PM
Trixx software version 4.1 let us change voltage at 5830 ...

(that is what the software says ...=) i don't know if it really change it !

where did you find 4.1, because on the official page i can only see 4.0.1


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: styrfoem on June 23, 2011, 11:42:43 PM
see...
http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/708571-sapphire-blue-pcb-5830-5850-5870-a.html (http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/708571-sapphire-blue-pcb-5830-5850-5870-a.html)
i realize this is an old original post, but you might find it helpful and informative like i have

:)
let me know if anyone is successful with this mod


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Elanzer on June 24, 2011, 12:13:03 AM
Just built a system with 4 of these cards with a sempron 140 yesterday, built in a HAF-X case with a 1000w 80PLUS Gold OCZ PSU.

Modified the voltage of each card to 1.0v voltage via using RBE to edit existing bios, the 4 cards are running 860/280 across the board (for now, still stability testing, stable for over 24 hours atleast). Fan speed set to 60% across the board.. room temp of 26'c, hottest card about 78'c, coolest card about 50'c. Power draw measured from wall: 480w.

Seems like I could have built this system with a 600w PSU after the undervolting. System total is about 1060mhash/sec (~265 per card using poclbm phatk), build cost was about $900 before tax as I got each card for $103, but if I knew the power draw was going to be this low I could have opted for a PSU that wasn't $150.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Mabsark on June 24, 2011, 01:16:03 AM
Will one of you guys who are running at 300 mem clock and worksize=256 give 225 mem clock and worksize=128 a try, and let me know your before and after results.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: smoki on June 24, 2011, 05:56:13 AM
Will one of you guys who are running at 300 mem clock and worksize=256 give 225 mem clock and worksize=128 a try, and let me know your before and after results.
I don't have any 5830s, but all 58xx cards should behave similarly. On my 5870s I noticed that below ~250 mem clock worksize=128 works better. In fact, the optimal settings I've found we're at mem=186, worksize=128. That gives a few Mhash/s more than worksize=256 and mem anywhere between 250 and 400.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Mabsark on June 24, 2011, 06:50:09 AM
Will one of you guys who are running at 300 mem clock and worksize=256 give 225 mem clock and worksize=128 a try, and let me know your before and after results.
I don't have any 5830s, but all 58xx cards should behave similarly. On my 5870s I noticed that below ~250 mem clock worksize=128 works better. In fact, the optimal settings I've found we're at mem=186, worksize=128. That gives a few Mhash/s more than worksize=256 and mem anywhere between 250 and 400.

The conclusion I came to with the 6870 was that the sweetspot was between 180 and 240. I was thinking the 5800s should be similar. There seemed to be a nice spike between those values, then below 180 the hash rates fell off rapidly. Did you find a similar pattern?


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: pennytrader on June 24, 2011, 07:02:34 AM
Will one of you guys who are running at 300 mem clock and worksize=256 give 225 mem clock and worksize=128 a try, and let me know your before and after results.
I don't have any 5830s, but all 58xx cards should behave similarly. On my 5870s I noticed that below ~250 mem clock worksize=128 works better. In fact, the optimal settings I've found we're at mem=186, worksize=128. That gives a few Mhash/s more than worksize=256 and mem anywhere between 250 and 400.

The conclusion I came to with the 6870 was that the sweetspot was between 180 and 240. I was thinking the 5800s should be similar. There seemed to be a nice spike between those values, then below 180 the hash rates fell off rapidly. Did you find a similar pattern?

Only work for worksize=128.

My best setting (5830) is memclcok = 300 with default worksize (SDK 2.1 + poclbm), which gave me 6 mhs more. Of course, setting memclock to 200 will lower the electr bill. :)


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: SomeoneWeird on June 24, 2011, 07:07:28 AM
Running my Sapphire 5830, 317.2mh/s 1025/300.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: gigica viteazu` on June 24, 2011, 07:38:40 AM
i`m doing 301.xx Mh/s with my Sapphire 5830 (http://"http://www.pureoverclock.com/images/review/video_cards/sapphire_5830x/sapphire_5830x_3.jpg") set at 970/300 stable 24/7


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Roland68 on June 24, 2011, 08:18:39 AM
2x 5830 Sapphire with GUIMiner "-k phatk VECTORS AGGRESSION=12 FASTLOOP WORKSIZE=256 BFI_INT" getting ~290Mhash/s per card 930/300 with open case and a fan blowing on it, staying at 60c.

quoted so I can find this later. ;)
Trixx software version 4.1 let us change voltage at 5830 ...

(that is what the software says ...=) i don't know if it really change it !

where did you find 4.1, because on the official page i can only see 4.0.1

you right!

sorry was 4.0.1 official on saphire web page ....


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: SomeoneWeird on June 24, 2011, 08:19:47 AM
2x 5830 Sapphire with GUIMiner "-k phatk VECTORS AGGRESSION=12 FASTLOOP WORKSIZE=256 BFI_INT" getting ~290Mhash/s per card 930/300 with open case and a fan blowing on it, staying at 60c.

quoted so I can find this later. ;)
Trixx software version 4.1 let us change voltage at 5830 ...

(that is what the software says ...=) i don't know if it really change it !

where did you find 4.1, because on the official page i can only see 4.0.1

you right!

sorry was 4.0.1 official on saphire web page ....
[/quoge]

Yep, 4.0.1 lets me change the voltage aswell, although if i go over 1030 and try to mine, gpu cracks a shit.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: smoki on June 24, 2011, 10:23:22 AM
Will one of you guys who are running at 300 mem clock and worksize=256 give 225 mem clock and worksize=128 a try, and let me know your before and after results.
I don't have any 5830s, but all 58xx cards should behave similarly. On my 5870s I noticed that below ~250 mem clock worksize=128 works better. In fact, the optimal settings I've found we're at mem=186, worksize=128. That gives a few Mhash/s more than worksize=256 and mem anywhere between 250 and 400.

The conclusion I came to with the 6870 was that the sweetspot was between 180 and 240. I was thinking the 5800s should be similar. There seemed to be a nice spike between those values, then below 180 the hash rates fell off rapidly. Did you find a similar pattern?
Pretty much spot-on. At worksize=128, between 180 and 250 the hashrate varies by a couple Mh/s, below 180 it drops fast and above 250 it starts decreasing slowly. By mem clock 300, worksize=256 is ~10 Mh/s faster and peaks at mem clock 354. But the worksize=256 peak @ mem clock 354 is still about 5 Mh/s lower than the worksize=128 peak at mem clock 186.

If this is not a dedicated rig though, then there is one issue with using mem clocks as low as ~200. Any load on the video card, such as playing video or flash, will lower the hashrate a lot more than at higher mem clocks.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Mabsark on June 24, 2011, 11:17:10 AM
Pretty much spot-on. At worksize=128, between 180 and 250 the hashrate varies by a couple Mh/s, below 180 it drops fast and above 250 it starts decreasing slowly. By mem clock 300, worksize=256 is ~10 Mh/s faster and peaks at mem clock 354. But the worksize=256 peak @ mem clock 354 is still about 5 Mh/s lower than the worksize=128 peak at mem clock 186.

I wonder why the hashrate is spiking at those values? It seems extremely odd to me that there should be performance spikes at such low clocks. I'd expect them to be at the high end.

If this is not a dedicated rig though, then there is one issue with using mem clocks as low as ~200. Any load on the video card, such as playing video or flash, will lower the hashrate a lot more than at higher mem clocks.

Yeah, I noticed that. I got around the flash problem by disabling hardware acceleration for flash. I also noticed that avi files had no effect on the hash rate but mkv's dropped it to about 50 Mh/s. I'm only downloading xvids from now on, they seem to play ok with AGRESSION set to 6 and I'm trying to avoid or disable anything that uses hardware acceleration.



Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: pennytrader on June 24, 2011, 04:06:52 PM
Will one of you guys who are running at 300 mem clock and worksize=256 give 225 mem clock and worksize=128 a try, and let me know your before and after results.
I don't have any 5830s, but all 58xx cards should behave similarly. On my 5870s I noticed that below ~250 mem clock worksize=128 works better. In fact, the optimal settings I've found we're at mem=186, worksize=128. That gives a few Mhash/s more than worksize=256 and mem anywhere between 250 and 400.

The conclusion I came to with the 6870 was that the sweetspot was between 180 and 240. I was thinking the 5800s should be similar. There seemed to be a nice spike between those values, then below 180 the hash rates fell off rapidly. Did you find a similar pattern?
Pretty much spot-on. At worksize=128, between 180 and 250 the hashrate varies by a couple Mh/s, below 180 it drops fast and above 250 it starts decreasing slowly. By mem clock 300, worksize=256 is ~10 Mh/s faster and peaks at mem clock 354. But the worksize=256 peak @ mem clock 354 is still about 5 Mh/s lower than the worksize=128 peak at mem clock 186.

If this is not a dedicated rig though, then there is one issue with using mem clocks as low as ~200. Any load on the video card, such as playing video or flash, will lower the hashrate a lot more than at higher mem clocks.

Same observation with 5830. The only difference here is worksize=256 peak @ mem clock 354 is about 5 Mh/s faster than the worksize=128 peak at mem clock 186.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Xenomorph on June 24, 2011, 06:13:01 PM
Sapphire 5830, model 100297L (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102878) ($110 shipped)

I'm using the latest Catalyst 2.4 drivers (which include OpenCL), and using Sapphire TriXX to control settings.

1000/300, 1.2v, 65% fan.

phoenix miner:
-k phatk vectors bfi_int aggression=12

~310 Mhash

When I push it to 1033/300, I get ~320 Mhash.

----------

Edit: This has been brought up before in other threads (or so I've been told). While TriXX lets you adjust the voltage of the Sapphire 5830 cards, many programs that monitor your video card may NOT actually be reading the correct voltage.

For example, pushing the voltage from ~1.16 default to ~1.20 in TriXX may still show up as ~1.16 in GPU-Z, GPU Caps Viewer, HWMonitor, etc, etc - which gives you the impression that TriXX didn't work.

There is one program I know of that reads the voltage correctly. HWiNFO  http://www.hwinfo.com/ (http://www.hwinfo.com/)

On load, it displays the voltage of 1.156v (1163 in TriXX). When I set it to "1200" in TriXX, HWiNFO then reads 1.195v. So I know TriXX is working.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: gigica viteazu` on June 24, 2011, 07:38:03 PM

Edit: This has been brought up before in other threads (or so I've been told). While TriXX lets you adjust the voltage of the Sapphire 5830 cards, many programs that monitor your video card may NOT actually be reading the correct voltage.

For example, pushing the voltage from ~1.16 default to ~1.20 in TriXX may still show up as ~1.16 in GPU-Z, GPU Caps Viewer, HWMonitor, etc, etc - which gives you the impression that TriXX didn't work.

There is one program I know of that reads the voltage correctly. HWiNFO  http://www.hwinfo.com/ (http://www.hwinfo.com/)

On load, it displays the voltage of 1.156v (1163 in TriXX). When I set it to "1200" in TriXX, HWiNFO then reads 1.195v. So I know TriXX is working.


i can confirm this, thank you Xenomorph


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: FreeJAC on June 28, 2011, 03:54:41 PM
Windows 7 Areo off with only one Sapphire 5830 ATM.


Using latest ATI driver 11.6 Phoenix phatk AOCLBF front end and I'm getting 305 Mh/s

Trixx Settings

Core Clock 1010

Memory Clock 625 (cant seem to go lower)

GPU Voltage 1200 (Mhs were all over the map before tweaking the voltage that made things settle to 305 although I was hesitant to tweak)

Temp 68c

AOCLBF 1.72 settings

(check) Vectors

(check) HD5xxx

(check) Fastloop

(check) phatk

Agression 12

Worksize 128

GPU - Z

Shows 99 - 100% GPU Load

Fan Speed 65%

Does not show the tweaked Trixx voltage





Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: airdata on June 29, 2011, 05:39:46 AM
Has anybody else had an issue w\ invalid/stale shares?

I noticed that my 3x5830 rig had a 1/7 ratio w\ my cards oc'd to 975/300 ( no voltage increase ).  I had around 7000 valid shares per card and then 1000-1200 stales :X.

Went back to stock bios and stale ratio went way down.   


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: SomeoneWeird on June 29, 2011, 05:47:11 AM
Has anybody else had an issue w\ invalid/stale shares?

I noticed that my 3x5830 rig had a 1/7 ratio w\ my cards oc'd to 975/300 ( no voltage increase ).  I had around 7000 valid shares per card and then 1000-1200 stales :X.

Went back to stock bios and stale ratio went way down.   

Nope, i have 1 running and im only getting <0.05% stale. 1015/300.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: LehmanSister on June 30, 2011, 01:58:32 AM
Update:

GPUs:
2x Gigabyte 5830's 1GB
Core: 975Mhz
Mem: 340Mhz
Fan: 85%
Temp: ~69.0C (top card sometimes 1C higher)

System
OS: Ubunturd 11.04 - Linux [REDACTED] 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
SDK: ati-stream-sdk-v2.1-lnx64
CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor
RAM: 4G

(tempted to consider trying out 2.4, but meh)

Latest poclbm from June 27th, 2011 (https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm): poclbm/2011.b7

./poclbm.py -u [REDACTED] --pass=[REDACTED] -o [REDACTED] -p [REDACTED] --verbose -d 1 -a 2 -w 256 --backup=[REDACTED] --tolerance=4 --failback=2 -r 5 -f 1 -v

Stable at 312.5Mhps.

Previously was around 304 with either kernels optimized in Phoenix. Has been up about 3ish weeks with these overclock settings.

GPU / System Stats:
Code:
Adapter 0 - ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series  
            Sensor 0: Temperature - 69.00 C

Adapter 1 - ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series 
            Sensor 0: Temperature - 68.50 C
*** Clocks ***

Adapter 0 - ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series 
                            Core (MHz)    Memory (MHz)
           Current Clocks :    975           340
             Current Peak :    975           340
  Configurable Peak Range : [600-875]     [900-1200]
                 GPU load :    99%

Adapter 1 - ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series 
                            Core (MHz)    Memory (MHz)
           Current Clocks :    975           340
             Current Peak :    975           340
  Configurable Peak Range : [600-875]     [900-1200]
                 GPU load :    99%
*** GPU #0 Stats ***
Fan speed query:
Query Index: 0, Speed in percent
Result: Fan Speed: 85%

Temperature for thermal controller 0 is 69.000000
Current Activity is Core Clock: 975MHZ
Memory Clock: 340MHZ
VDDC: 1163
Activity: 99 percent
Performance Level: 2
Bus Speed: 5000
Bus Lanes: 16
Maximum Bus Lanes: 16

*** GPU #1 Stats ***
Fan speed query:
Query Index: 0, Speed in percent
Result: Fan Speed: 85%

Temperature for thermal controller 0 is 68.500000
Current Activity is Core Clock: 975MHZ
Memory Clock: 340MHZ
VDDC: 1163
Activity: 98 percent
Performance Level: 2
Bus Speed: 5000
Bus Lanes: 16
Maximum Bus Lanes: 16

*** CPU and Misc Sensors ***
atk0110-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
Vcore Voltage:         +1.44 V  (min =  +0.80 V, max =  +1.60 V)
CPU/NB Voltage:        +1.15 V  (min =  +0.80 V, max =  +1.60 V)
CPU VDDA Voltage:      +2.49 V  (min =  +2.00 V, max =  +3.00 V)
DRAM Voltage:          +1.55 V  (min =  +1.40 V, max =  +1.90 V)
HT Voltage:            +1.20 V  (min =  +0.80 V, max =  +1.50 V)
NB Voltage:            +1.10 V  (min =  +0.90 V, max =  +1.35 V)
SB Voltage:            +1.11 V  (min =  +0.80 V, max =  +1.50 V)
+3.3V Voltage:         +3.36 V  (min =  +2.97 V, max =  +3.63 V)
+5V Voltage:           +5.06 V  (min =  +4.50 V, max =  +5.50 V)
+12V Voltage:         +12.00 V  (min = +10.20 V, max = +13.80 V)
CPU Temperature:       +38.0°C  (high = +40.0°C, crit = +90.0°C) 
MB Temperature:        +40.0°C  (high = +35.0°C, crit = +95.0°C) 
NB Temperature:        +49.0°C  (high = +65.0°C, crit = +95.0°C) 
SB Temperature:        +44.0°C  (high = +35.0°C, crit = +75.0°C) 
OPT_TEMP1 Temperature:  +0.0°C  (high =  +0.0°C, crit = +90.0°C) 
OPT_TEMP2 Temperature:  +0.0°C  (high =  +0.0°C, crit = +90.0°C) 
OPT_TEMP3 Temperature:  +0.0°C  (high =  +0.0°C, crit = +90.0°C) 

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +0.0°C  (high = +70.0°C, crit = +90.0°C) 


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: FreeJAC on June 30, 2011, 03:21:32 AM
Just to update on my above post, I did this.

"Same observation with 5830. The only difference here is worksize=256 peak @ mem clock 354 is about 5 Mh/s faster than the worksize=128 peak at mem clock 186."

and ended up with the 312 Mhashes/sec on my 5830 Win7 box.  :P

*EDIT* Now I made this change #define Ma(x, y, z) amd_bytealign( (z^x), (y), (x) )

to phatk kernel.cl and am now getting 316 - 319 Mhashes/sec :P :P

 


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: hennessy on June 30, 2011, 01:11:02 PM

Update:

GPUs:
2x Gigabyte 5830's 1GB
Core: 975Mhz
Mem: 340Mhz
Fan: 85%
Temp: ~69.0C (top card sometimes 1C higher)

System
OS: Ubunturd 11.04 - Linux [REDACTED] 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
SDK: ati-stream-sdk-v2.1-lnx64
CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor
RAM: 4G

(tempted to consider trying out 2.4, but meh)

Latest poclbm from June 27th, 2011 (https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm): poclbm/2011.b7

./poclbm.py -u [REDACTED] --pass=[REDACTED] -o [REDACTED] -p [REDACTED] --verbose -d 1 -a 2 -w 256 --backup=[REDACTED] --tolerance=4 --failback=2 -r 5 -f 1 -v

Stable at 312.5Mhps.
312Mh/s @ 975Mhz core??? Thats impressive.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: LehmanSister on July 03, 2011, 09:36:06 PM
312Mh/s @ 975Mhz core??? Thats impressive.

Thank you. I'm probably a little closer to 313.5, but I don't want to have people get their panties in if they clone my setup and can't match it. Looking to push it higher, but as always, taking the rigs offline for tweaking costs more then it's sometimes worth with difficulty changes.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: sang on July 05, 2011, 03:22:12 AM
330mhash/sec with my HIS 5830 card  @ 1040/340

300mhash/sec with my 2 Sapphire 5830 cards (they are in my game rig so i'm not pushing them hard) @ 950/340

All stock voltages and stable.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: LehmanSister on July 05, 2011, 03:38:41 AM
330mhash/sec with my HIS 5830 card  @ 1040/340

If I may ask, what's your ambient room temp for this mine, and how hot are the chips getting? Is your 'stock' voltage 1.163?


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: pdawg on July 05, 2011, 03:49:18 AM
The conclusion I came to with the 6870 was that the sweetspot was between 180 and 240. I was thinking the 5800s should be similar. There seemed to be a nice spike between those values, then below 180 the hash rates fell off rapidly. Did you find a similar pattern?

How did you get your mem down that low on the 6870?  Did you flash the bios?


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: sang on July 05, 2011, 04:49:32 AM
330mhash/sec with my HIS 5830 card  @ 1040/340

If I may ask, what's your ambient room temp for this mine, and how hot are the chips getting? Is your 'stock' voltage 1.163?

On the one running at 1040/340: 70-75deg F. Open comp case with a big fan blowing air in and the card's fan on 80%. By stock voltage I mean it's factory default (not exactly sure and i'm too lazy to reopen the remote session to check). This HIS card is a champ. Chip stays below 70c.

On the two sapphires, they are in a regular pc case and run a little warmer. They are running at about 80c with 65% fan.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: LehmanSister on July 05, 2011, 05:48:03 AM

On the one running at 1040/340: 70-75deg F. Open comp case with a big fan blowing air in and the card's fan on 80%. By stock voltage I mean it's factory default (not exactly sure and i'm too lazy to reopen the remote session to check). This HIS card is a champ. Chip stays below 70c.

On the two sapphires, they are in a regular pc case and run a little warmer. They are running at about 80c with 65% fan.

Thanks for the info. My 2 5830's are in about the same ambient temp and setup (they are in a case, but I've got external fans going on them).

I wrote a little monitor that will help tell ya the info in a screen session (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=13855.msg188817#msg188817), or if you you have access to a terminal:

Code:
DISPLAY=:0.[whichever]; aticonfig --pplib-cmd "get activity"

Up to you if you're in the mood to do it :P

The HIS sounds nice. I'm going to try to replicate your results on my Sapphires next chance I get.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: Mabsark on July 05, 2011, 10:18:54 AM
The conclusion I came to with the 6870 was that the sweetspot was between 180 and 240. I was thinking the 5800s should be similar. There seemed to be a nice spike between those values, then below 180 the hash rates fell off rapidly. Did you find a similar pattern?

How did you get your mem down that low on the 6870?  Did you flash the bios?

MSI Afterburner. Enable unofficial overclocking by editing the config file. (http://vivithemage.com/2011/03/enabling-unofficial-overclocking-in-msi-afterburner-2-1/) Afterburner will appear to only let you take the memory so low, around 525 Mhz at first. Close it down then reopen it. Now you can take it down even lower, to around 260 MHz. Close it down, reopen it, set to 225 Mhz.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: hennessy on July 09, 2011, 12:23:03 PM
oc'd to 900 mhz on my core and memory is a stock 1000

anyone know what i should do to get even faster while staying reasonable? i spent most of the money i've collected the past few years since i don't get an allowance so i don't want to fry this card

also, swinging around from 265 mh/s to 277.9 mh/s

bring the memory clocks down to 300-350Mhz. Saves a lot of power and the card stays cooler. You should also apply the phoenix tweaks to speeze out more MH/s or try playing around with agression and worksize. My cards are giving me 285MH/s @ 900Mhz core.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: srty on July 09, 2011, 01:51:14 PM
294mhash at 950 core and 650 mem with tags -v -w128 -f15 AGGRESSION=12

You should really try using poclbm.  With 930 core and 190 mem I can get 297mhash.  By the time I bump it up to 960 core, I'm just over 300mhash.  I just use the standard settings for a 5xxx card on the GUI miner.  For whatever reason, 180-190 mem was a sweet spot on my card.  If the card isn't next to another one, I can get it up to 970 core, getting 312mhash.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: vivithemage on July 12, 2011, 04:49:17 PM
how does one downclock the memory, to save on power consumption but keeping output high?

I do not want to flash em, I have 4 running in a rig.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: airdata on July 12, 2011, 08:00:54 PM
how does one downclock the memory, to save on power consumption but keeping output high?

I do not want to flash em, I have 4 running in a rig.

Vivi : you can use msi afterburner.  Follow this guide : http://bitclockers.com/forums/index.php?topic=5.0

It requires you to install msi afterburner and then edit a couple of lines of the cfg file.  To get the memory clock below 500 you may have to move it to 500 and then close the program and open it back up to get it to lets say 300 or below.



Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: vivithemage on July 12, 2011, 08:12:37 PM
Yup, but what should I clock down to save power, but keep up mhash?


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: ihokamik on July 12, 2011, 09:03:33 PM
Yup, but what should I clock down to save power, but keep up mhash?

I run my Sapphire 5830 core at 966 MHz and the Memory art 325 MHz.   I actually get faster hashing speed when the memory runs between 300 and 350 MHz than the default but it crashes if I launch a game.   I think that the sweet spot is tightly related to your core speed.  Some people are obtaining better performance at other mem speed but 325 works best for me.

I haven't changed the voltage, MSI afterburner won't let me do it on this card.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: vivithemage on July 12, 2011, 09:04:53 PM
Thanks, i'll play with it when I get home ... i'll have 4 cards in one rig, so we'll see what happens :).


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: vivithemage on July 14, 2011, 04:14:08 AM
I have 2 5830's running at 311~mhash as well now, thanks :)

I made a quick guide to MSI Afterburner unlocking extra OC features ... very simple :

http://vivithemage.com/2011/03/enabling-unofficial-overclocking-in-msi-afterburner-2-1/


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: ssateneth on July 31, 2011, 10:24:18 AM
325.2 MHash/sec
Sapphire 5830 Extreme
1010/370/1.175v
70c
GUIMiner v2011-07-01 / phoenix / diapolo modded phatk 7-17
VECTORS BFI_INT WORKSIZE=256 FASTLOOP=false AGGRESSION=14


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: mike678 on July 31, 2011, 04:25:02 PM
325.2 MHash/sec
Sapphire 5830 Extreme
1010/370/1.175v
70c
GUIMiner v2011-07-01 / phoenix / diapolo modded phatk 7-17
VECTORS BFI_INT WORKSIZE=256 FASTLOOP=false AGGRESSION=14
You shouldn't have to change voltages in order to get that speed. I have 1030/350 for the same card as yours with no overvolt and I'm getting 333.88. If I go with your speed no overvolt I get 327.36. Try these settings:
phoenix 1.5
phatk from Phateus(7-29)


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: ssateneth on August 01, 2011, 12:00:46 AM
325.2 MHash/sec
Sapphire 5830 Extreme
1010/370/1.175v
70c
GUIMiner v2011-07-01 / phoenix / diapolo modded phatk 7-17
VECTORS BFI_INT WORKSIZE=256 FASTLOOP=false AGGRESSION=14
You shouldn't have to change voltages in order to get that speed. I have 1030/350 for the same card as yours with no overvolt and I'm getting 333.88. If I go with your speed no overvolt I get 327.36. Try these settings:
phoenix 1.5
phatk from Phateus(7-29)


Stock voltage 1.163v, maximum stable core is 985 at same temperature. I needed the bump to get it stable.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: mike678 on August 01, 2011, 01:15:09 AM
325.2 MHash/sec
Sapphire 5830 Extreme
1010/370/1.175v
70c
GUIMiner v2011-07-01 / phoenix / diapolo modded phatk 7-17
VECTORS BFI_INT WORKSIZE=256 FASTLOOP=false AGGRESSION=14
You shouldn't have to change voltages in order to get that speed. I have 1030/350 for the same card as yours with no overvolt and I'm getting 333.88. If I go with your speed no overvolt I get 327.36. Try these settings:
phoenix 1.5
phatk from Phateus(7-29)


Stock voltage 1.163v, maximum stable core is 985 at same temperature. I needed the bump to get it stable.
That's weird maybe I just got a good batch?


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: lowlevel on August 01, 2011, 02:13:44 AM
Hey I was just curious if anyone has pushed their 5830's over the 311MHash/s Mark.
Getting 311.4->311.89 using Pheonix Miner in Win7 without Aero

I'm getting about 311.6 to 312.2 or so sustained on one of my 5830's.
975mhz gpu, 320mhz ram, stock voltage.

My other two are in the same box and I have trouble with them past 960mhz.. so those I get 305ish on.
I'm sure if I was willing to up the voltage and push the clock harder, I could get 320mhashes... but I'm not really into frying video cards.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: ssateneth on August 01, 2011, 03:53:06 AM
325.2 MHash/sec
Sapphire 5830 Extreme
1010/370/1.175v
70c
GUIMiner v2011-07-01 / phoenix / diapolo modded phatk 7-17
VECTORS BFI_INT WORKSIZE=256 FASTLOOP=false AGGRESSION=14
You shouldn't have to change voltages in order to get that speed. I have 1030/350 for the same card as yours with no overvolt and I'm getting 333.88. If I go with your speed no overvolt I get 327.36. Try these settings:
phoenix 1.5
phatk from Phateus(7-29)


Stock voltage 1.163v, maximum stable core is 985 at same temperature. I needed the bump to get it stable.
That's weird maybe I just got a good batch?

It's very likely. I bought 5 cards. One is good to 1025MHz stock volts, other is only good to 955MHz, regardless of voltage.


Title: Re: Good Speeds on Sapphire 5830's 311.4MHash/s
Post by: SolidBitShop on August 01, 2011, 09:25:45 AM
The stable core clock is i think by luck. I have 6 of them and not everyone runs at the same speed. For example

1015/325 - 323M#/s 74C Fan 60% - unstable for 1020+ (freezes the PC)
975/325 - 311M#/s 76C Fan 66% - unstable for longer period of time from 985+ (The drivers turn off and the card is not mining. stays on 0% GPU load)
965/325 - 308M#/s 78C Fan 69% - above 965 it gets unstable

These above are in one case. From top - the cards have better air flow. Space between is one pci/pcie slot. Two 120mm fans blowing out the hot air from the back end of the cards. If there is one 120mm fan blowing in the air on a side of a card to the fans on the cards it gets - 2/4 C depends on card (the first cards temp stays the same)

The other rig is

930@275 - 298M#/s 77 - 80 C (depends on the outside temperature) Fan 76% - Can't really tell whats the stable core clock (its running at low core clock because the heat is killing the card, its in close position to another cards so the temps are very high)
1006@315 - 319-321 M#/s 76 - 78C Fan at 66% (Its stable above these settings but the efficiency is poor (it gets less accepted and many rejected)
1015@315 - 321 - 324 M#/s 72 - 74 C Fan 54% ( unstable for 1020 +)

For this configuration there is only one 120mm fan blowing out the heat from the first and second card. ( i found that blowing out air is better than blowing in - of course best combination is blowing out and blowing in - but I dont have a fan for that jet.

Anyway if someone would be interested in software settings they are the same for all rigs:

Win7 64x
Phoenix 1.5 with phatk kernel 2011-07-17

-a 5 -k phatk VECTORS BFI_INT AGGRESSION=13 FASTLOOP=false (for phoenix worksize is default for the cards witch is 256)

catalyst 11.6 SDK 2,4 (tryed 11,7 sdk2,5 but one of my card didnt worked and the speed was poor for my settings)


PS. ohh and the voltage is stock