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Who cares really...

Some idiots like you might not care. But those who are doing the ground job of taking bitcoin mainstream, do care.

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That was quite a success. How many people do you figure bought bitcoins because Microsoft started accepting it? One, two...three?

Xbox monthly tax payer ... don't miss that hotmail/outlook/microsoft account is a wallet for Xbox games.

FTFY

Dont forget the media effect that started when Microsoft started to accept bitcoin. It might not make any difference to drug addicts. But, for wage slaves in mainstream world, brand Microsoft brings in a notion of safety.

Really bad to know they've taken it off for now... Hope it comes back soon, and for all regions!

ups, that is bad news as for mainstream adoption. Let's hope is precisely that, that they are doing adjustments to accept it in all regions.

I, personally believe, it has something to do with BitPay. They're probably somewhat disappointed with BitPay for some reason. Alternatively, they might be checking their legal standing regarding the various bitcoin licenses popping up across the states.

Well someone had complaint about how legal is that option about bitcoin soo they must be looking deeply how those can affect them,one thing is knowed that bitcoin needs to achieve new users and using microsoft as big company would be great since they has a huge market under their control.

Microsoft never accept Bitcoin, what are you talking about? ???

Unexpected from a Hero Member. You might have been under the rock for some time. Or is it a sold account used for sig campaigns ?

https://commerce.microsoft.com/PaymentHub/Help/Right?helppagename=CSV_BitcoinHowTo.htm

https://blogs.microsoft.com/firehose/2014/12/11/now-you-can-exchange-bitcoins-to-buy-apps-games-and-more-for-windows-windows-phone-and-xbox/

http://www.coindesk.com/microsoft-adds-bitcoin-payments-xbox-games-mobile-content/

I didn't remember I see these news. Microsoft is not used a lot in my country. Probably all Windows OS'es are pirated here. They also can't sell any consoles here.

Does anybody know what's the reasoning begging this decision? Is it economic decision, eg, they didn't have enough interest by the people so they just ditched it or is it a more political decision where they just make sure not to promote us as their payment option so people would forget about us.

Or is it to early to know all this?

It was probably a beta test to see that if MS gamers will choose bitcoin or not. Most of bitcoiners are not game players so their btc income was pretty low I assume.

Imagine they sell Windows license keys just for 10$ (when they did to upgrade to 8) and accept bitcoins. I believe some somalian pirate will buy one too.

Well she did say temporarily so I hope it comes back up as an option
Was considering it as a way to reload my Microsoft balance but last I recalled it was US only so couldn't take advantage of it.

This is exactly what i'm thinking, they didn't say they won't return it as an option. I keep remembering that interview of Bill Gates when he was
asked about bitcoin; and the way he tried to avoid the question of backing it up himself personally. I think there's more to it both from him and microsoft.

this is very bad news, probably will not using microsoft service until they accept bitcoin again  ??? ,will be looking forward for alternative if there's any

I fail to understand you; you will try to find an alternative selling Microsoft software for bitcoin ?
Anyways, just google a bit about the issue, or read the thread throughly - the issue is just temporary.

i dont know instead, that microsoft accept bitcoin  :D

I hope after they returned the service, it would be available in all regions. As a pirate, I also want to experience using legit OS and services from them too, and I'm willing to pay with bitcoin.

A user on the reddit reported that he had a chat with their support and they confirmed that it is temporary and I am guessing they must have had some trouble with the BitPay service, so maybe this time when they start to re-accept it, they'll accept it directly without any third party service.

Maybe the process was too complicated on a large scale to continue accepting BTC payments? Not sure how easy/difficult accepting BTC is.

maybe no one were using it, like it was said, it's not important if they accept it or not, if afterward no one will use, it would be pointless anyway

I guess it was just a experimental move for them to see if it will be used or not.And maybe now they decided it's not worth it.
Or soon they will come up with an own version.I wouldn't be surprised.

That could be due to the fact that not many people use bitcoin in Microsoft sites. If bitcoin is adopted more widely, Microsoft will come back.

A non-definitive way to sponsorising Microsoft even more?
Here we have a nice strategomind.
They probably stopped it because they don't like more updates than they usually do on their systems?


Please don't buy Windows 10, if you really want to buy original of something, go for 8.

I will stop spending anything with Microsoft until they accept Bitcoin again.

It's not difficult at all. That's definitely not an excuse nor reason to stop offering Bitcoin payments to its users. They don't have to do anything as every Bitcoin sale gets converted into fiat currency. I think the reason for Microsoft to temporarily not offer Bitcoin payments is more due to the lack of interest from people. They are simply not using it enough.

So You bought from them already on a regular basis?

Shame they removed the option, but it is most likely due to limited use of the option.

Maybe those is connected to openbazar that is getting near the big opening ,those will change the way to buy and sell,soo maybe they are waiting to see how it will go on,and then return the bitcoin option.But one thing is well knowed already the openbazar should strike a part of ebay costumers ,since some are here and well lets see what will happen.

Yes. When it is worth it, MS will come back.

Keep calm guys, this is just temporary.
It's very influential tho

The question is for how long ::)
I think Bitcoin won't be available for a really long time ::)
And as far as i know Bitcoin payment is only available to US citizens :(
So i don't really care about them pulling this one off ;)

I hope they return the service. I am more comfortable using bitcoin as payment method specially when transacting online. This is a huge setback if other companies also stop accepting bitcoins as payment.

Actually I think a lot more than that. Not because they are using Microsoft products and want to buy them with Bitcoin, but because Microsoft is a big company which is talked about in the news 24/7 and if such a big company is related to Bitcoin somehow this is a good thing for BTC.

There was a pump when the news that Microsoft had started accepting Bitcoin reached this forum. People were buying thousands of Bitcoins, not a few. I remember the price going up at that time because of people speculating on the news, not buying Microsoft products.

Having Microsoft on board is excellent news, so stop being delusional by thinking this isn't negative news. Of course, at the end of the it doesn't matter, because Bitcoin will infect everyone's minds one way or another and it will finally be accepted worldwide, forcing every single merchant to accept them unless they want to look like morons, just like a company without a website and an email address nowadays would be seen as morons.

I read an article a while back about BitPay getting hacked and laying off a bunch of people. Part of the article was about them losing merchants too. I think the reason given was the inability of merchants to give refunds back to customers because the transaction is irreversible. The only way the merchant could give a refund was to wait for the transaction to clear then refund in fiat and pay any fees out of pocket. Maybe that's what happened to Microsoft.

if they dont accept it anymore its kinda bad as less people will be interested in bitcoins and its price will not go up that much

Knowing Microsoft's history, they have something up their sleeve, and I guess it's their own version of the "private blockchains" popping up everywhere. Bill Gates has no more say

in the company decisions being made, even though he supports the idea. The pressure from banks and PayPal can also not be discounted as a possible reason.

Microsoft has always been a Honeypot for USA security agencies anyway... Most of the US companies are closely linked to the US government. The recent classification of

Bitcoin as a commodity and not a currency in a sense, might just have a influence too.  ::)

The reason behing such action can be the low interest on using bitcoin as most of us are saving bitcoin waiting it get more value and just a few spending it,openbazar should show what will happen.

They're usually selling keys from MSDN accounts. These aren't supposed to be resold by account holders and they'll stop working if the account is closed. You might get lucky and it'll stay activated. You may well not and your activation might only last a few weeks or months.

Yes. "most of us are saving bitcoin waiting it get more value", but there are still many people use bitcoin to purchase goods. If salary is paid with bitcoin, it is better for bitcoin as a currency.

It's normal that the majority of people solely buy Bitcoins for investment purposes. They are hoping for something similar to happen as in 2013 when the price went to over $1000. I'm sure with major internet companies such as Amazon and Ebay on board where they are offering Bitcoin payments, people would be more likely to spend their coins.

Perhaps they were not getting enough sales so they scrapped the idea.

Interesting, if this is true, I could see more merchants that stop accepting Bitcoin payments.

The thing is it only costs so little to keep accepting bitcoin as a payment option. Why would they remove something that gives their customers more choices to reach their products and a far better customer experience?

What's the reason for removing bitcoin as a payment option? It should be back soon as even I need to purchase a license key of Microsoft Office 2013 and checked that they removed bitcoin payment method from the list :(

probably few people were using it, and the whole point of accepting bitcoin is hoping that someone use it, otherwise it's better to remove it

people are already aware about bitcin, but they choose deliberately to not use it

the question here is, why would anyone want to buy something from microsoft? :P

nah seriously, i'm sure that they remove it because few/none people were using it, strange but true, maybe 2015 is not a good year to sold his products for bitcoin, but believe me, soon it will change ;)

Yeah, if there was not enough interest, it could be more work than it was worth for them to upkeep the APIs and such.

But you should look on it from opposite way. 2015 was godo year to spend Bitcoins. So people would buy mountain of Microsoft products for Bitcoin. In 2016 when price wil styrt climbing peopel will rather hold bitcoins and pay with fiat.

Good perspective. For the spending year we had option of bitcoin to buy microsoft products.I believe in 2016 also with higer prices more people will buy more things with less amount of satoshi comparatively if the prices will be peaking in 2016.

Microsoft option to pay with bitcoin for sure were an advantage to us,but we will have an marketing to buy and sell all for bitcoins ,openbazar can bring others companies to accept bitcoin as i know at openbazar will be only bitcoin payments.

Are you sure?
I thought when you did anything with Microsoft they asked a few intrusive questions.

No worries. I am very soon they will embrace bitcoin and perhaps integrate bitcoin in their latest windows??

It's funny to see companies going back and for with their Bitcoin approval. Thing is so new and disruptive, that they have second thoughts all the time. In no time we will see them accepting it again once other companies accept it. They are coward pussies that backed off thinking "maybe we were to quick to accept this, let's wait to see what happens".

Can't see them accept Bitcoin payments for anything other than xbox subscribtions, etc, at this point. I am more interested to know the reason for not accepting Bitcoin anymore.

Microsoft bundling a Bitcoin client with Windows would be very bad.

• It probably violates anti-trust laws, previously Microsoft got into a lot of trouble for including Internet Explorer with Windows.
• The client they ship with Windows may be backdoored/bugged/insecure.
• It's not good to have a single client that everybody uses.

well imagine a big corporation like google and microsoft aceping BTC and even apple the btc will rule we wait,

It probably doesn't make any difference anyway whether they accept bitcoin or not. Nobody is forcing them to and nobody needs it anyway. But in few more years down the road when bitcoin finally gained mainstream they will automatically or willingly add bitcoin as one of the payment option for sure.

well they have dropped it this is the point, and apple is against bitcoin, i remember when someone destroyed is applephone because they removed the possibily to have bitcoin client on their iphone or something

and then they have applepay which is against bitcoin, they somehow realized the potential with bitcoin, when they delivered that way of payment...

If companies like MS, Apple, G, Adobe etc accept Bitcoin then it can really become mainstream and finally a viable currency to own. However this move by MS hits this notion where it hurts the most.

They don't need to bundle bitcoin client with it, they could just add bitcoin to microsoft payments, which would be even a bigger thing.
There's no legal issues for them to add it to their own payment system, atleast not that i can think of.
Other points you listed i agree on, it's better for individual user to pick a wallet on their own, but doubt there's justified fear of backdors..

Apple pay can integrate bitcoin. The next big revenue generation would be fees generated from apple pay. It will cost very little to transact bitcoin compared to fiats.

It's a shame they have dropped bitcoin, it was great news when they accepted it and it surely must have increased their sales, I wonder why have have dropped it on a temp basis.

Take a look at this,

http://www.coindesk.com/microsoft-rolls-out-ethereum-toolkit-for-business-users/


I m sure Microsoft has got a lot of interest in crypto and BTC especially. If they dropped it, it s just temporary. It was clearly stated in that tech support conversation.

Bitcoin and its tech are 2 different things. No corporation needs BTC. Maybe they need parts of BTC tech and nothing more.

The mobile payments are the future. BTC is a niche e-currency. I don't understand why you are dreaming to non senses :)

Debit cards/credit cards along with the mobile payments are the future. Period.
Why would I use BTC when I have USD/EURO, etc? I can use my debit card with ZERO fees for any online/offline purchase and more than that, the transactions are instant.

Also, I can use hundreds of payment processors like Paypal if I really want an intermediary and to pay fees. Again, the transactions are instant.

Bitcoin is not free and it's slow like a snail.

Why would I switch to Bitcoin? For what? Give me a reasonable reason for doing that :)

Yes, BTC can be used for speculative trading, buying weed and staff but that's all.

Microsoft dropped BTC and joined ETH bandwagon.

Of course that a lot of people cares. Microsoft getting in the Digital Currency industry is a very good thing. It means that the confidence in this new technology is growing.
They even have recently signed a partnership to start using the Ethereum platform for developing new tools and smart assets using the blockchain.

I know bitcoin is convenient and all, but funding your Microsoft account. I don't really think that it is that a big of a deal. You can still fund your account in other ways, its not like you can't fund your account anymore. At the same time, Microsoft are the ones losing out. Bitcoin is steadily rising and they would make a decent profit from it. I think it's a lose lose situation for both sides.

If the bitcoin wallet included with all Windows products, then that must be a very good booster for bitcoin ecosystem and we can see very good price appreciation with this of bitcoin value. I wish that could happen in very near future.

Even better if Microsoft provide the bitcoin wallet with some bitcoin in it. Even it is 0.00001, it is good for the adoption of bitcoin.

It would only introduce dust inputs with Windows users. Probably no one would use those BTC and it would just harm Microsoft's profit.

I personally wouldn't like it if they really do it. Afterall, users should be choosing their own wallet and not be given a wallet to use. There is always a possibility of it getting backdoors. It would also use unnecessary space for non-Bitcoin users.

You're just buying stuff. I've never been asked an intrusive question by any type of store other than name and address if they needed to send me something. If they did then they wouldn't get my business.

They will work with bitcoin in the future ,banks working in their blockhain ,they will maybe allow costumers to be part of it,paying each people a fee to keep blockhain their safe,otherwise someone can attack them and steal the money and gone.Apple and other will use bitcoin as this is already a way to pay ,money with value.

IMO, it would just be like insurance to insure your Bitcoins. IMO, this is quite redundant with the amount of hardware wallets coming out and paper wallets are already quite safe. The attacks that users are exposed to is mostly malware attacks which can be prevented with good security measures.