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Title: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: ElEcTrOnEeZ on October 24, 2015, 10:20:46 PM
I am thinking of creating an email list of subscribers using GetResponse where people will be asked to subscribe and after that do a 30-minute of surfing my website *everyday*. If I get several thousand of subscribers and daily surfers to my website daily, then I will create a lottery and pay X number of random people with $50 or $100 cash everyday.

Do you think that this idea will be a success ?

Do you think that I will get enough number of subscribers ?

PLEASE TAKE THE ABOVE POLL, I WILL GIVE YOU A BTC-CANDY.
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Thanks in advance,

Sanjay


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: shorena on October 24, 2015, 10:23:03 PM
I am thinking of creating an email list of subscribers using GetResponse where people will be asked to subscribe and after that to a 30-minute of surfing my website everyday. If I get several thousand of subscribers and surfers of my website daily, then I will create a lottery and pay X number of random people with $50 or $100 cash everyday.

Do you think that this idea will be a success ?

Do you think that I will get enough number of subscribers ?

PLEASE TAKE THE ABOVE POLL, I WILL GIVE YOU AN e-CANDY.

Thanks in advance,

Sanjay

What would you consider a success? A high number of bots that subscribe to your list? Because thats whats going to happen.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: ElEcTrOnEeZ on October 24, 2015, 10:29:30 PM
I am thinking of creating an email list of subscribers using GetResponse where people will be asked to subscribe and after that to a 30-minute of surfing my website everyday. If I get several thousand of subscribers and surfers of my website daily, then I will create a lottery and pay X number of random people with $50 or $100 cash everyday.

Do you think that this idea will be a success ?

Do you think that I will get enough number of subscribers ?

PLEASE TAKE THE ABOVE POLL, I WILL GIVE YOU AN e-CANDY.

Thanks in advance,

Sanjay

What would you consider a success? A high number of bots that subscribe to your list? Because thats whats going to happen.

GetResponse won't allow automated bots to subscribe and my site is not browsable by automated bots.
So do you mean that my idea is appealing enough ?


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: knowhow on October 24, 2015, 10:44:41 PM
I am thinking of creating an email list of subscribers using GetResponse where people will be asked to subscribe and after that do a 30-minute of surfing my website *everyday*. If I get several thousand of subscribers and daily surfers to my website daily, then I will create a lottery and pay X number of random people with $50 or $100 cash everyday.

Do you think that this idea will be a success ?

Do you think that I will get enough number of subscribers ?

PLEASE TAKE THE ABOVE POLL, I WILL GIVE YOU A BTC-CANDY.
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Thanks in advance,

Sanjay

Well make us join something and stay on the website for some seconds sounds good but were will the income come youtube? You know that most advertising companies ban the accounts ,and those who incentive users to click or watch that looks what you offering here,a return to some lucky person.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: ElEcTrOnEeZ on October 24, 2015, 10:50:45 PM

Guys n' Gals, Please Take The Above Poll Truthfully.



Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: Pab on October 25, 2015, 01:16:31 AM
 Do you think that several thouesends of people will stay on your website 30 min and subscribe for your list
if you really think like that that you are kind of blind.people are staying on new website 30 sec
 Also you will need to advertise that your website to that several thousends of people
What for thay have to stay,for some future lotto,done by who,one guy
not succes,be real


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: Amph on October 25, 2015, 07:46:37 AM
it was done several tiem in the past, and it faded away quickly, some of those i think are rigged in some way, maybe the owener is running alt or bot to have better chance to wint he prize himself


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: Kprawn on October 25, 2015, 07:55:03 AM
Most lottery services I have seen, has no confirmed anti-cheat mechanism to prevent the owner from cheating. These sites start out by being honest and you see a couple of

winners and then the owner gets greedy and start to rig the games. If you can find a way to make the lottery draws cheat-free, you might get a lot of subscribers. There are

just too many people who do not trust lottery systems, because there were so many rigged games before.  >:(


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: lottery248 on October 25, 2015, 09:13:47 AM
this kind of lottery will not be a really good thing.
unless it contains a high security, or good standing, otherwise we won't know if it would be a success.
lottery database is hard to form, mate.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: crairezx20 on October 25, 2015, 10:03:27 AM
What do you mean success? do you mean making a lottery website that you can huge of money by using your fake lottery numbers then you will cheat to because your the owner you can easily put your own lottery numbers?.
I think if you making a lottery website make sure you are registered to pcso or international lottery. before making your own website.... with you personal imformation...
Making owner of lottery is not easy because you need more security and function anti bot or any against the cheat.. I think no one can be success in lottery... maybe if its giveaway...


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: SFR10 on October 25, 2015, 10:24:23 AM
It could be a success in the long run but you need to improve on a lot of terms before starting this kind of lottery

1) Decrease the 30 minute time to at least 10 minutes or even 5 minutes would be better
2) Add stuff so it would be worth while for the surfers to surf on the website for that long
3) Hire someone to do the following: a) Checks each IP as there are tools to find which one is trying to use a program into being from another proxy
                                                   b) Some sort of escrow that your not associated with so there will be a transparency of your lottery
                                                   C) Someone to make sure you won't turn out to cheat yourself would be a big plus


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: NorrisK on October 25, 2015, 10:28:06 AM
People will develop page crawler scripts to get around this, acting like real clickers.

As for payout, it should probably be coupled to a certain block and predetermined values (public) beforehand to determine a publically verifiable winner.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: freedomno1 on October 25, 2015, 10:33:57 AM
Sort of reminds me of surf4bitcoin
The service  died out a long time ago to my knowledge but it did grow.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150753.msg1601882#msg1601882


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: knowhow on October 25, 2015, 12:21:39 PM
Well those looks like faucet  and not lottery since we would need to see some page for 30 seconds,this happen with faucet where you can win 0.007 or above it im out of faucets but i know there is some big faucets with such reward from claim soo is lottery .


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: ElEcTrOnEeZ on October 25, 2015, 12:49:17 PM
It could be a success in the long run but you need to improve on a lot of terms before starting this kind of lottery

1) Decrease the 30 minute time to at least 10 minutes or even 5 minutes would be better
2) Add stuff so it would be worth while for the surfers to surf on the website for that long
3) Hire someone to do the following: a) Checks each IP as there are tools to find which one is trying to use a program into being from another proxy
                                                   b) Some sort of escrow that your not associated with so there will be a transparency of your lottery
                                                   C) Someone to make sure you won't turn out to cheat yourself would be a big plus

Hi SFR10,

Thanks very much for your valuable inputs, specially reducing the 30-minutes/day to 10-minutes/day.

Thanks again,

Sanjay Das


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: apriyani420 on October 25, 2015, 02:58:09 PM
i doubt that it might be successful as people are not too interested in real life lotteries nowadays so with bitcoins they wouldnt play it either


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: montreal on October 25, 2015, 02:58:51 PM
I doubt it. not enough people will trust the person running it.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: FaucetWorld on October 25, 2015, 03:00:08 PM
There have been several Bitcoin lottery projects. Some were better, some were worse, but so far, none of them managed to be popular enough to survive.

Idea is not bad but probably it is too early to make it succeed.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on October 25, 2015, 03:06:09 PM
It sounds like a good idea, but have in mind taht the ultimate incentive for someone to keep visiting a webpage is that the person enjoys the content. The idea of doing this for a small chance of winning 50-100 dollars may not be enough without the good content.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: devil11 on October 25, 2015, 03:27:26 PM
In my opinion it will be helpful to you :)


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: Slark on October 25, 2015, 03:42:19 PM
Right number of subscriber is enough if you are able to finance prize money directly through earning from your subscribers base.
If you are adding your own money to the prize pool for an extended period of time, then you probably failed.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: ElEcTrOnEeZ on October 25, 2015, 05:50:41 PM
I think BTC Lottery will be success because bitcoin user happy to do gambling. :D
But sooner or later you can feel loss and do it some cheat, after that is fade way. :P

No, I am here to stay. Not fade-away. :-D


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: isvicre on October 25, 2015, 05:55:00 PM
It sounds good but I don't people would trust and join your campaigns. You need to gain more trust over internet doing some other things.
Maybe content creating.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: bit2015 on October 25, 2015, 05:56:36 PM
May be.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: Pab on October 25, 2015, 07:33:55 PM
It has to be vey good developer,real service other way you will veryfastgain negative reputation
For now you are showing nothing,you dont have even your own website
So what we are talking about
To give you 200$


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: crairezx20 on October 25, 2015, 08:20:03 PM
For me maybe because if you have much security they can trust you. and you certification like PCSO..


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: visual111 on October 25, 2015, 08:23:49 PM
Probably. People seem to like gambling. If you're investing in BTC, you've probably got some gambler's blood in you anyways.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: zimmah on October 25, 2015, 10:41:25 PM
Well, faucets and gambling are popular, and this idea kind of combines the two, so i'd think it might work.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: Hugroll on October 25, 2015, 10:48:40 PM
personally i dont think so, ive seen plenty of bitcoin lotteries these days, but no one seems to give it any attention. if u can manage to catch the interest of a lot of people and they all participate maybe youll be succesfull


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: Hellacopter on October 25, 2015, 11:50:59 PM
I think there is a possibilty to success if your lottery offer will be attractive with huge amounts as prizes and with a big number of winners. Otherwise you just waste your time and effort with this work
You should make your offer exceptional and different


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: Rude Boy on October 26, 2015, 02:41:33 AM
I am thinking of creating an email list of subscribers using GetResponse where people will be asked to subscribe and after that do a 30-minute of surfing my website *everyday*. If I get several thousand of subscribers and daily surfers to my website daily, then I will create a lottery and pay X number of random people with $50 or $100 cash everyday.

Do you think that this idea will be a success ?

Do you think that I will get enough number of subscribers ?

PLEASE TAKE THE ABOVE POLL, I WILL GIVE YOU A BTC-CANDY.
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Thanks in advance,

Sanjay

Well make us join something and stay on the website for some seconds sounds good but were will the income come youtube? You know that most advertising companies ban the accounts ,and those who incentive users to click or watch that looks what you offering here,a return to some lucky person.
true!
If you use google adsense and doing this lottery system, sure you'll be banned. Because, google(most of the advertising companies) doesn't support this.
And what will make a user to stay 30 minutes on your website? Is your website is something like gambling? Or what about the contents of your website?


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: eternalgloom on October 26, 2015, 02:54:30 AM
You should have posted this in Project Development I think.
But anyway, I don't think a project like this is really sustainable, I think it's difficult to get a userbase that's active enough.

People get tired of autosurf and I would guess even faster when there is no certain incentive involved, but only a possible reward if you're lucky.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: knowhow on October 26, 2015, 11:50:52 PM
You should have posted this in Project Development I think.
But anyway, I don't think a project like this is really sustainable, I think it's difficult to get a userbase that's active enough.

People get tired of autosurf and I would guess even faster when there is no certain incentive involved, but only a possible reward if you're lucky.

Which information or game should be on those website that would make the most people stand atleast 30 minutes daily ,super mario were a good game ,listen music? Or other area the fact is to make all people stay those time will be impossible,or the most would be with a window open doing their stuff,but well the sucess you must try to make it live.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: bitbaby on October 27, 2015, 02:27:53 AM
May be.

Voted this as well. Seriously, there is no way of knowing in advance whether an idea is going to work or not, the only sure way of knowing is, give it a shot!. Make such website and try your best to make it work but make sure that results of lottery is verifiable otherwise people will suspect cheating and stop visiting your site. And this should go in Project Development, you can move it from the bottom left of this page.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: btcdevil on October 27, 2015, 03:36:18 AM
Most lottery services I have seen, has no confirmed anti-cheat mechanism to prevent the owner from cheating. These sites start out by being honest and you see a couple of

winners and then the owner gets greedy and start to rig the games. If you can find a way to make the lottery draws cheat-free, you might get a lot of subscribers. There are

just too many people who do not trust lottery systems, because there were so many rigged games before.  >:(

what you replied is correct if you want to start a new lottery site then you have to take lot of steps towards it negative points what everyone have pin pointed you, idea is not bad because their are lot of user who know that it will not give them profit then also they play like in dice gambling even knowing that house is the winner in the last then also so many players are gambling.

idea is good but check the all negative points from the replys you received and follow it then i think you can make a good site with cheat free.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: cloverme on October 27, 2015, 12:24:06 PM
I am thinking of creating an email list of subscribers using GetResponse where people will be asked to subscribe and after that do a 30-minute of surfing my website *everyday*. If I get several thousand of subscribers and daily surfers to my website daily, then I will create a lottery and pay X number of random people with $50 or $100 cash everyday. Do you think that this idea will be a success ? Do you think that I will get enough number of subscribers ?


In general most people dislike the stick/carrot model in order to win something, some people will do it though. This is very similar to the timeshare presentation model where people get invited to a 2 hour high pressure sales presentation then get a prize at the end of it. Only your offer is less attractive because you "may" win something with the random giveaway. In general, these websites / ad watching schemes were done quite bit in the past, so many of them didn't work, people developed a mindset to stay away from them. "Fill out this survey and will an xbox" kind of offers really turn people away now, unless your 14 and like your mobile phone ringing all day with more special offers.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: knowhow on October 27, 2015, 08:05:10 PM
The thing that should make people use is the fact that they can win something,but well i dont know till when it can be the reason to all keep supporting,and trying the big prize.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: crazyivan on October 28, 2015, 06:10:51 AM
You d need to really increase the prize cause I don't think people ll come back that much for just $50.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: allyouracid on October 28, 2015, 02:02:36 PM
Do you think that several thouesends of people will stay on your website 30 min and subscribe for your list
if you really think like that that you are kind of blind.people are staying on new website 30 sec
 Also you will need to advertise that your website to that several thousends of people
What for thay have to stay,for some future lotto,done by who,one guy
not succes,be real
Absolutely true. My website's (it has information/content) users are there for approx 3-5 minutes. Built some scripts to analyze that. They come, take the information they need and leave.

Just the chance to maybe win a price won't keep them there. Getting visitors to stay is hard work.


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: BitMaxz on October 28, 2015, 04:44:39 PM
I am thinking of creating an email list of subscribers using GetResponse where people will be asked to subscribe and after that do a 30-minute of surfing my website *everyday*. If I get several thousand of subscribers and daily surfers to my website daily, then I will create a lottery and pay X number of random people with $50 or $100 cash everyday.

Do you think that this idea will be a success ?

Do you think that I will get enough number of subscribers ?

PLEASE TAKE THE ABOVE POLL, I WILL GIVE YOU A BTC-CANDY.
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Thanks in advance,

Sanjay
For me no because $50 to $100 is low if got a huge traffic then if you got thousands of betters Do you think got a profit for that? the owner? so for me no...


Title: Re: Do You Think This BTC Lottery Idea Will Be A Success ?
Post by: unununium on October 29, 2015, 01:05:26 AM
How many earn now? 200-300$ ?