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Title: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: jacee on October 25, 2015, 12:04:41 AM
How long will this be confimed?
I don't normally wait this log to receive any transaction. Is this something wrong with this?  :(

https://blockchain.info/tx/75000172afb7bea5b532555350c298826d3c87ec3536aede13e5d74a48ee632e (https://blockchain.info/tx/75000172afb7bea5b532555350c298826d3c87ec3536aede13e5d74a48ee632e)


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: worhiper_-_ on October 25, 2015, 12:12:44 AM
There's a ton of inputs in your transaction and the fee doesn't meet the current requirement for your transaction to be of high priority. If your wallet gives you an option to set fees on your own, either try setting your fees higher or adjusting them on a case by case basis.

You can use this services to see how the network handles transaction priority at the moment. 
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC

Cointape shows the fee required for a transaction to be of high priority.
http://www.cointape.com/



Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: alani123 on October 25, 2015, 12:16:48 AM
Calculating transaction size each time you want to send one can be tedious, setting fees in the wallet settings could lead you to spending more than needed.

If you're not sure about what to do, I think it's worth mentioning that there are some easy to use wallets that will automatically handle fees for you. Coinbase for example, whilst not the most "respectful" wallet when it comes to freedom, doesn't even require you to pay any transaction fees at all. The downside is that your account might get closed if you do "illegal transactions" so avoid using it if you're concerned about your privacy and your transactions are of questionable legality. 


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: jacee on October 25, 2015, 12:31:08 AM
Calculating transaction size each time you want to send one can be tedious, setting fees in the wallet settings could lead you to spending more than needed.

If you're not sure about what to do, I think it's worth mentioning that there are some easy to use wallets that will automatically handle fees for you. Coinbase for example, whilst not the most "respectful" wallet when it comes to freedom, doesn't even require you to pay any transaction fees at all. The downside is that your account might get closed if you do "illegal transactions" so avoid using it if you're concerned about your privacy and your transactions are of questionable legality. 

I use Mycelium wallet and set the miner fee to normal or High priority.
The transaction was from someone else. I lend some coins and expecting that I will get it sooner because I really need at the moment(that's why I lend). Now I just want to know until when do I have to wait for it to be confirmed. Will it take days or something? :(


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: alloffmyhate on October 25, 2015, 12:38:16 AM
 ;D you get bad node and your transaction on medium block dont worry


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: rkandrades on October 25, 2015, 12:43:08 AM
I had this problem recently too.

You should not make any new transfer ultin the bitcoin network reject this stuck transaction.

In 24 or 48h this transaction will be cancelled.

Remember to set your wallet to pay normal fees at least.

Good luck!


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: worhiper_-_ on October 25, 2015, 12:59:03 AM
Calculating transaction size each time you want to send one can be tedious, setting fees in the wallet settings could lead you to spending more than needed.

If you're not sure about what to do, I think it's worth mentioning that there are some easy to use wallets that will automatically handle fees for you. Coinbase for example, whilst not the most "respectful" wallet when it comes to freedom, doesn't even require you to pay any transaction fees at all. The downside is that your account might get closed if you do "illegal transactions" so avoid using it if you're concerned about your privacy and your transactions are of questionable legality.  

I use Mycelium wallet and set the miner fee to normal or High priority.
The transaction was from someone else. I lend some coins and expecting that I will get it sooner because I really need at the moment(that's why I lend). Now I just want to know until when do I have to wait for it to be confirmed. Will it take days or something? :(

40 minutes to infinity, that's what the math says. Personal experience I have tells me it could take up to a few hours. If you're unlucky it'll take more. If the sender has bitcoin core installed and synced he could reverse the transaction while it's still unconfirmed. That's gonna take extra effort though. Here's a guide anyway

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=231309.0


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: VirosaGITS on October 25, 2015, 01:01:01 AM
Calculating transaction size each time you want to send one can be tedious, setting fees in the wallet settings could lead you to spending more than needed.

If you're not sure about what to do, I think it's worth mentioning that there are some easy to use wallets that will automatically handle fees for you. Coinbase for example, whilst not the most "respectful" wallet when it comes to freedom, doesn't even require you to pay any transaction fees at all. The downside is that your account might get closed if you do "illegal transactions" so avoid using it if you're concerned about your privacy and your transactions are of questionable legality.  

I use Mycelium wallet and set the miner fee to normal or High priority.
The transaction was from someone else. I lend some coins and expecting that I will get it sooner because I really need at the moment(that's why I lend). Now I just want to know until when do I have to wait for it to be confirmed. Will it take days or something? :(

40 minutes to infinity, that's what the math says. Personal experience I have tells me it could take up to a few hours. If you're unlucky it'll take more. If the sender has bitcoin core installed and synced he could reverse the transaction while it's still unconfirmed. That's gonna take extra effort though. Here's a guide anyway

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=231309.0

Thats a very low fee. I did one with similar fee and it took 1 week to confirm. The transactions being cancelled and returned in 48hours... i never seen that happen. But yeah this is probably going to take a while.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: worhiper_-_ on October 25, 2015, 01:08:19 AM
Thats a very low fee. I did one with similar fee and it took 1 week to confirm. The transactions being cancelled and returned in 48hours... i never seen that happen. But yeah this is probably going to take a while.

I've had this happen to me once. I was sending a transaction that contained coins from unconfirmed transactions.

I used bitcoin core to 'double spend' the unconfirmed transactions, this time setting a high fee and it confirmed just normally.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: jacee on October 25, 2015, 06:33:33 AM

Thats a very low fee. I did one with similar fee and it took 1 week to confirm. The transactions being cancelled and returned in 48hours... i never seen that happen. But yeah this is probably going to take a while.

Thanks man, this answers my question.
Well it looks like I will not be getting my coins anytime soon. :(
Now I regret borrowing those coins. I need those to purchase something and it looks like I will not make use of it if it'll take a week.
Btw, the transaction will be cancelled?, does that really works or not? Never heard of that happened before.. :(


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: Small on October 25, 2015, 06:38:38 AM

Thats a very low fee. I did one with similar fee and it took 1 week to confirm. The transactions being cancelled and returned in 48hours... i never seen that happen. But yeah this is probably going to take a while.

Thanks man, this answers my question.
Well it looks like I will not be getting my coins anytime soon. :(
Now I regret borrowing those coins. I need those to purchase something and it looks like I will not make use of it if it'll take a week.
Btw, the rejection, does that really works or not? Never heard of that happened before.. :(

Transactions never get rejected. They can get dropped from the mempool and it would be the same as if the transaction has never been initiated before. It depends on your client policy. Some clients continuously rebroadcast the transactions and it would never get dropped. If you control the private key of the output addresses, try using CPFP and hope that Eligius would accept your transaction.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: shorena on October 25, 2015, 08:31:31 AM
You can also rebroadcast the TX yourself from time to time.

You can find the raw TX here -> https://blockchain.info/tx/75000172afb7bea5b532555350c298826d3c87ec3536aede13e5d74a48ee632e?format=hex

Code:
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Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: jacee on October 25, 2015, 09:16:41 AM
You can also rebroadcast the TX yourself from time to time.

You can find the raw TX here -> https://blockchain.info/tx/75000172afb7bea5b532555350c298826d3c87ec3536aede13e5d74a48ee632e?format=hex

Code:
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Shorena, sorry but I don't have any idea on how to do that. Can you please explain it to me or point me to a guide created for it or something? I will really appreciate this. Thanks.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: shorena on October 25, 2015, 09:20:50 AM
You can also rebroadcast the TX yourself from time to time.

You can find the raw TX here -> https://blockchain.info/tx/75000172afb7bea5b532555350c298826d3c87ec3536aede13e5d74a48ee632e?format=hex

Code:
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Shorena, sorry but I don't have any idea on how to do that. Can you please explain it to me or point me to a guide created for it or something? I will really appreciate this. Thanks.

If you have bitcoin core you do it via the console:

Code:
sendrawtransaction 01000000315516b99366b6c762c76-snip rest of raw tx-

it will return the ID: https://i.imgur.com/fzMwmRB.png

If you dont run bitcoin core you can use an online service, e.g.:

https://insight.bitpay.com/tx/send
https://coinb.in/#broadcast
https://btc.blockr.io/tx/push
http://webbtc.com/relay_tx
https://blockchain.info/pushtx

Not all of them might relay it, due to the low fees or because they already know about it, but its still worth a shot.

If you want the network to forget about the transaction you should not do this obviously.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: jacee on October 25, 2015, 09:33:03 AM
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it will return the ID: https://i.imgur.com/fzMwmRB.png

If you dont run bitcoin core you can use an online service, e.g.:

https://insight.bitpay.com/tx/send
https://coinb.in/#broadcast
https://btc.blockr.io/tx/push
http://webbtc.com/relay_tx
https://blockchain.info/pushtx

Not all of them might relay it, due to the low fees or because they already know about it, but its still worth a shot.

If you want the network to forget about the transaction you should not do this obviously.

If I do this, will the chance of the transaction to be confirmed immediately will rise? I had done it using blockr.io because I don't have pc so I don't have bitcoincore.
Also how often should I repeat this?


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: shorena on October 25, 2015, 10:37:15 AM
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it will return the ID: https://i.imgur.com/fzMwmRB.png

If you dont run bitcoin core you can use an online service, e.g.:

https://insight.bitpay.com/tx/send
https://coinb.in/#broadcast
https://btc.blockr.io/tx/push
http://webbtc.com/relay_tx
https://blockchain.info/pushtx

Not all of them might relay it, due to the low fees or because they already know about it, but its still worth a shot.

If you want the network to forget about the transaction you should not do this obviously.

If I do this, will the chance of the transaction to be confirmed immediately will rise? I had done it using blockr.io because I don't have pc so I don't have bitcoincore.
Also how often should I repeat this?

It will improve propagation which in turn makes sure your TX is known to miners, which in turn is the basis for a confirmation. The time it takes still depends on the settings of the miners and what other TX they know about. Its commonly believed that they sort by fee per byte as it maximizes their revenue. Thus you are pretty low in the queue anyway. There are not that many TX besides the spam though, so it might work out in your favour.

It should be enough to do this once a day.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: crairezx20 on October 25, 2015, 11:09:13 AM
I think you can recieve it on 8 hrs because its medium priority like mine. if you got still unconfirm after the 8 hrs you can recieve back your transaction 4 days before it came back..


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: jacee on October 25, 2015, 11:32:59 AM
It will improve propagation which in turn makes sure your TX is known to miners, which in turn is the basis for a confirmation. The time it takes still depends on the settings of the miners and what other TX they know about. Its commonly believed that they sort by fee per byte as it maximizes their revenue. Thus you are pretty low in the queue anyway. There are not that many TX besides the spam though, so it might work out in your favour.

It should be enough to do this once a day.

Transaction got confirmed after I did what you suggested shorena. Thanks! I just checked my wallet now and the coins are already there.

I think you can recieve it on 8 hrs because its medium priority like mine. if you got still unconfirm after the 8 hrs you can recieve back your transaction 4 days before it came back..

It 24 hours bro (I'm not sure). It got confirmed eventually tho.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: shorena on October 25, 2015, 04:43:18 PM
It will improve propagation which in turn makes sure your TX is known to miners, which in turn is the basis for a confirmation. The time it takes still depends on the settings of the miners and what other TX they know about. Its commonly believed that they sort by fee per byte as it maximizes their revenue. Thus you are pretty low in the queue anyway. There are not that many TX besides the spam though, so it might work out in your favour.

It should be enough to do this once a day.

Transaction got confirmed after I did what you suggested shorena. Thanks! I just checked my wallet now and the coins are already there.

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Good, sometimes they just need a little push :)


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: Bifta on October 25, 2015, 06:05:54 PM
I know that you got the coins, but all of you are wrong as to what happened. What actually happened was that your transaction got malleated. The original transaction (75000172afb7bea5b532555350c298826d3c87ec3536aede13e5d74a48ee632e) you linked to is actually still not confirmed (and it never will be). The same transaction but with a different txid (aff1698bfba65cdebce3e6b4b8cb975656124cfc3291a4b3022d594f1e2f0ac7) was confirmed which is why you see the coins in your wallet now. The delay was of course due to the reasons people said above, but the original transaction will never confirm.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: vendetahome on October 25, 2015, 07:25:36 PM
to get your transaction confirmed you need to include bigger fees if with lower ones your transaction takes a lot of time to be confirmed


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: BitMaxz on October 26, 2015, 08:16:40 PM

I think you can recieve it on 8 hrs because its medium priority like mine. if you got still unconfirm after the 8 hrs you can recieve back your transaction 4 days before it came back..

It 24 hours bro (I'm not sure). It got confirmed eventually tho.
Bro just wait 4 days it will arrive back to your wallet. if still didnt confirmed just like mine bro i send bitcoins to online wallet then after 2 to 3 hrs its still have no comnfirmation until 24 hrs so i just wait the confirmation after 4 days the transaction is rejected and your bitcoind send arrive back to your wallet.
I do again send the bitcoin with the low fee but i was changed the transaction fee per kb to 1. after that its working again even my fee is low i cant send it and recieve but not fast 1 or 2hrs will arrive and sent...


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction
Post by: bitcoin1900 on October 26, 2015, 10:46:25 PM
What fees did you use, when i send big amounts i double the fee to be safe.