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Title: (Medium Priority) this transaction has a very small output and is non standard
Post by: rafanadal on October 25, 2015, 12:54:39 PM
I need help , please
i received a transaction , and it is still unconfirmed after 12 hours
it says  (Medium Priority) this transaction has a very small output and is non standard

what can i do here , can i send it to another wallet
or  am i simply screwed  :(


Title: Re: (Medium Priority) this transaction has a very small output and is non standard
Post by: Small on October 25, 2015, 01:30:14 PM
The reference client do not relay transactions with dust. Dust is defined as transactions which has outputs less than 2730satoshis. Which fits one of your outputs. This would result in miner having less probability of seeing and including your transactions and not accepting it if they accept dust transactions.


Title: Re: (Medium Priority) this transaction has a very small output and is non standard
Post by: rafanadal on October 25, 2015, 01:35:52 PM
The reference client do not relay transactions with dust. Dust is defined as transactions which has outputs less than 2730satoshis. Which fits one of your outputs. This would result in miner having less probability of seeing and including your transactions and not accepting it if they accept dust transactions.

can i do anything about this man ?
please help


Title: Re: (Medium Priority) this transaction has a very small output and is non standard
Post by: rafanadal on October 25, 2015, 02:08:19 PM
can i get any help please


Title: Re: (Medium Priority) this transaction has a very small output and is non standard
Post by: rafanadal on October 25, 2015, 02:11:04 PM
the coins are in my wallet , but unconfirmed


Title: Re: (Medium Priority) this transaction has a very small output and is non standard
Post by: SFR10 on October 25, 2015, 02:15:20 PM
Don't worry, your not yet screwed AFAIK  ;) I've seen similar situations where it stays unconfirmed for the longer time than usual, but within hours it gets confirmed and also make sure you don't leave your wallet open in case your using blockchain.info or any online wallets


Title: Re: (Medium Priority) this transaction has a very small output and is non standard
Post by: rafanadal on October 25, 2015, 02:23:17 PM
if it stays unconfirmed , the coins will be charged back to the original wallet?  :-[

why cant i leave my wallet open?


Title: Re: (Medium Priority) this transaction has a very small output and is non standard
Post by: achow101 on October 25, 2015, 02:28:12 PM
if it stays unconfirmed , the coins will be charged back to the original wallet?  :-[
Not charged back, but the transaction will be dropped from the network, as long as no one is broadcasting it. Then it essentially becomes able to do a double spend since virtually no one will have that transactions

why cant i leave my wallet open?
Your wallet will continue to broadcast the transaction while it is open, thus making it impossible for the transaction to drop. Since you are actually the receiver, you need to tell the sender to do that and then resend it.

As the receiver of the transaction, there is absolutely nothing you can do. You must wait for it to be confirmed, or wait for the sender to do a double spend and send the transactions but without the dust output.


Title: Re: (Medium Priority) this transaction has a very small output and is non standard
Post by: rafanadal on October 25, 2015, 02:38:06 PM
knightdk

thanks for your help
what are the chances , that my transaction will confirm in your experience  :( , it's been more than 12 hours


Title: Re: (Medium Priority) this transaction has a very small output and is non standard
Post by: achow101 on October 25, 2015, 02:43:55 PM
knightdk

thanks for your help
what are the chances , that my transaction will confirm in your experience  :( , it's been more than 12 hours
The chances are very low. The dust output is considered dust under the new defaults (2730 satoshis) and under the old defaults (546 satoshis) so I am surprised that you even received it. Most new nodes would not relay a transaction with such a small output. I highly doubt that it will every get confirmed.


Title: Re: (Medium Priority) this transaction has a very small output and is non standard
Post by: rafanadal on October 25, 2015, 02:49:40 PM
 :( what can one do , to avoid this dust bullshit
high fees ?


Title: Re: (Medium Priority) this transaction has a very small output and is non standard
Post by: achow101 on October 25, 2015, 03:03:59 PM
:( what can one do , to avoid this dust bullshit
high fees ?
Use a wallet that does not send dust. Most wallets will give you a warning if you attempt to send a dust output. It is up to you to heed that warning and not send a dust output. Fees don't matter if there is a dust output.


Title: Re: (Medium Priority) this transaction has a very small output and is non standard
Post by: DannyHamilton on October 25, 2015, 04:30:09 PM
:( what can one do , to avoid this dust bullshit
high fees ?

As the receiver of a transaction, you have no direct control over how the transaction is formed.  However, you can do the following:
  • Verify that a transaction is not poorly formed before providing anything of value in exchange for an unconfirmed transaction
  • Refuse to do business with someone that sends poorly formed transactions.
  • Explain to the sender what they have done wrong so that they can learn to do it right



Title: Re: (Medium Priority) this transaction has a very small output and is non standard
Post by: crairezx20 on October 25, 2015, 08:47:57 PM
Dont worry if its medium priority you can recieve it but very long time or maybe you will recieve it in 1 day.. just like mine before...


Title: Re: (Medium Priority) this transaction has a very small output and is non standard
Post by: BitMaxz on October 26, 2015, 06:44:54 AM
Dont be sad sir you your bitcoin transaction has to destination either you will recieve it back or transaction will complete.So just wait 4 days. Because i got this issue before my transaction has not confirmed and my bitcoin back after 4 days... so just wait dont be worry.