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Title: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: TheIrishman on October 27, 2015, 02:02:39 AM
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Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/oct/26/bacon-ham-sausages-processed-meats-cancer-risk-smoking-says-who (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/oct/26/bacon-ham-sausages-processed-meats-cancer-risk-smoking-says-who)

<< Bacon, ham and sausages rank alongside cigarettes as a major cause of cancer, the World Health Organisation has said, placing cured and processed meats in the same category as asbestos, alcohol, arsenic and tobacco. The report from the WHO's International Agency for Research on Cancer said there was enough evidence to rank processed meats as group 1 carcinogens because of a causal link with bowel cancer. It places red meat in group 2A, as "probably carcinogenic to humans". Eating red meat is also linked to pancreatic and prostate cancer, the IARC says. The IARC's experts concluded that each 50-gram (1.8-ounce) portion of processed meat eaten daily increased the risk of colorectal cancer by 18%.

"For an individual, the risk of developing colorectal cancer because of their consumption of processed meat remains small, but this risk increases with the amount of meat consumed", said Dr Kurt Straif, head of the IARC monographs programme. "In view of the large number of people who consume processed meat, the global impact on cancer incidence is of public health importance."

The decision from the IARC, after a year of deliberations by international scientists, will be welcomed by cancer researchers but it triggered an immediate and furious response from the industry, and the scientists it funds, who rejected any comparison between cigarettes and meat. >>


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: skeet on October 27, 2015, 06:21:39 AM
I would be more impressed if they found something that didn't cause cancer. like 'eat this one thing and you'll NEVER get cancer' but since anyone and everyone can get it that will never happen.


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: freedomno1 on October 27, 2015, 06:51:14 AM
Everything causes cancer these days. :(

I wonder how many will turn vegan after reading this.

In response the meat and dairy organization in Canada pointed to a study that Vegans have higher rates of complications that put them at risk due to the lack of vitamins in their diet that primarily come from meat  ;D
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/89/5/1627S.short

Bacon its one of the things worth dying a slow death for  ;)
An average of 24,000 people are KILLED by lightening each year. Not linked....KILLED. I'll take my chances with bacon.

Oh and the Hot Dog Report :)
http://www.clearfood.com/food_reports/2015/the_hotdog_report


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: kydranel on October 27, 2015, 07:28:09 AM
well it was processed so it makes sense. its still better if u saw how it was butchered then eat it.


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: saddampbuh on October 27, 2015, 08:12:28 AM
who the fuck wants to live until their 80s? can you imagine what it would be like not being able to do things for yourself and walking around vulnerable to whoever decides to rob you? eat and smoke what you like and stop being pussies.


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: Snail2 on October 27, 2015, 09:39:52 AM
Perhaps not using GMO stuff (with lots of residual insecticides and herbicides) in animal feed, and properly smoking and curing meat instead of using "smoke flavour" and God knows what else would help a lot.


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: Tzupy on October 27, 2015, 03:30:13 PM
This has been known for several years. And it's not a direct cause for colon cancer, but increases risks.
That's why I have been using for years the Meriva Curcumin, for prevention of colon cancer, works very well, regresses pre-cancerous lesions.


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: pilscoop on October 27, 2015, 05:26:20 PM
Also being alive is a cause of cancer...
Every day there's a study saying this or that causes cancer. I say just eat healthy and you'll be ok


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: danel on October 28, 2015, 01:37:00 AM
Everything causes cancer. We breath in cancer we eat things that cause cancer. Our soil has been polluted over the years and all the additives added to the feed for animals is causing cancer, not just bacon and ham. Yes anything used to preserve meats will cause cancer.

Stop blaming one thing because it is everything that causes cancer. We need something to break down all the cancer causing properties in our foods because it will take a lot of years to clean our water, soil and animals of the cancer causing genes.


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: gogxmagog on October 28, 2015, 04:25:11 AM
most processed foods are unhealthy. processed meats are disgusting (except bacon) but the WHO is a sham. its like the UN of health care.  not worth listening to


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: Gronthaing on October 29, 2015, 03:51:33 AM
^ the world health organization is part of the united nations. Not sure about not being worth listening to though. But I agree with the rest. And this is nothing new and no one will stop eating processed meat now.


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: vero on October 31, 2015, 12:39:57 PM
Your going to die no matter what you eat, drink, smoke or screw! When, is just a number! You really think they care? Screw it all!


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: Pierre 2 on November 01, 2015, 11:25:07 AM
Your going to die no matter what you eat, drink, smoke or screw! When, is just a number! You really think they care? Screw it all!

I agree. When people tries to warn me about dangers of cigars or anything like that I basically think "what is the meaning of life when you can't just enjoy it?"
Well I don't actually smoke but I cannot stop eating meat. I love it.


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: Nimbulan on November 01, 2015, 11:47:12 AM
I'm pretty sure it all depends on what meat are you eating. If you are able to get high quality meat from countryside (pigs, that were not fed by GMO stuff and etc.), the risk of cancer won't get any higher. Just main problem is, that most of meat that is selled in supermarkets is litterally garbage.


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: BitHappy24 on November 02, 2015, 11:05:10 AM
I'm pretty sure it all depends on what meat are you eating. If you are able to get high quality meat from countryside (pigs, that were not fed by GMO stuff and etc.), the risk of cancer won't get any higher. Just main problem is, that most of meat that is selled in supermarkets is litterally garbage.
This, it depends where you get your meat and where it came from and if it has been processed or not and how much. All those stuff counts in.

Even if all the meat causes cancer, more than a quarter of the human race is already diagnosed with cancer.  :-\


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: InvoKing on November 02, 2015, 02:40:33 PM
Smoking can cause too many cancers including: Bladder, Cervix, Colon and rectum, Esophagus, Kidneys and ureters, Larynx, Liver, Lungs, Mouth, nose, and throat, Pancreas, Stomach, Trachea..
While meats can increase the risk of colon, stomach..

No comparison between the two!


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: Coinonomous on November 03, 2015, 12:28:59 AM
Doesn't pretty much everything including breathing give you cancer unless it's like a vegetable? Lol. :D


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: gentlemand on November 03, 2015, 02:10:48 AM
If I cared any less I'd develop cancer of not giving a shit so I'm fucked either way.


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: bitrev on November 03, 2015, 10:32:35 AM
We're all gonna die anyway sooner or later. I don't wanna live my life in fear. Not every meat causes cancer, just pay attention as to what you put in your mouth and know where it came from.


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: Andrelvogue on November 03, 2015, 10:37:11 AM
IDC I will still eat it, Bcuz is delicious.


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: de_bit on November 03, 2015, 12:46:43 PM
It is better to eat whole unprocessed foods in general.


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: pattu1 on November 03, 2015, 02:25:19 PM
It is better to eat whole unprocessed foods in general.

It definitely would be healthy. The only problem is that they tend to be more expensive.
Even organic foods tend to be more expensive.


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: Ulloa on November 03, 2015, 02:40:58 PM
I don't think all meat causes cancer just the processed ones are the ones you gotta look out for.

Stay with chicken and fish, like me. And you are healthy.


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: panju1 on November 03, 2015, 03:28:41 PM
I don't think all meat causes cancer just the processed ones are the ones you gotta look out for

Processed meat comes under level 1 carcinogens.
Red meat comes under level 2A.
So it is not just processed meat.


Title: Re: Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO
Post by: bryant.coleman on November 04, 2015, 02:40:45 PM
The risk is minuscule. If you are vegetarian, then your risk of getting colo-rectal cancer once in your lifetime is somewhere around 56 per 1,000. And if you take an average 70 grams of processed meat a day (honestly, who takes that much every day?), then your chances jump to 66 per 1,000. So the increase in risk is just 10 per 1,000 people. I am not going to throw away my bacon and sausages.