Title: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: sron on November 06, 2012, 08:09:50 AM How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash in the mail?
SRON Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: Jutarul on November 06, 2012, 08:14:22 AM How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash in the mail? you can't. Only option is to employ proxies (real people) on both sides, who organize a real life meeting and exchange cash with BTC.SRON Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: sron on November 06, 2012, 08:22:09 AM How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash in the mail? you can't. Only option is to employ proxies (real people) on both sides, who organize a real life meeting and exchange cash with BTC.SRON Proxies? Hmm... Now that's a thought... Could you elaborate please? Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: Jutarul on November 06, 2012, 08:35:07 AM How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash in the mail? you can't. Only option is to employ proxies (real people) on both sides, who organize a real life meeting and exchange cash with BTC.SRON Proxies? Hmm... Now that's a thought... Could you elaborate please? Anything else than real life meeting has the problem of being asymmetric. That means someone has to provide trust. Alternatively the two parties could work through the same proxy which they meet at different times and locations. Why do you ask? Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: Stephen Gornick on November 06, 2012, 10:18:16 AM How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash in the mail? There's a reason why cash-in-the-mail is well used ... privacy for the sender remains intact. So if you are buying bitcoins with cash-in-the-mail, your transaction remains quite private. But if you are cashing out your coins, cash-in-the-mail to you does not necessarily protect your privacy from the sender knowing who you are. The challenge in trying to transfer a physical item without the sender knowing the recipient is something seen quite often in spy movies. The same techniques applies though for truly anonymous cash transfers, including the tactic of employing a dead drop: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_drop There are secure communications methods (e.g., GibberBot + Orbot on an Android mobile) that can let two counterparties conduct a trade without ever needing to directly interact. Certainly though, there could be restrictions against transferring cash in this manner in many jurisdictions -- particularly with larger amounts of cash. Now if in instead you simply meant how can you trade without showing an ID, there are many methods. Bitcoins Direct now takes cash deposit at several banks. BitMe.com accepts cash deposits at Chase. Individual traders on LocalBitcoins.com can be found. And for cashing out, LocalBitcoins.com works for that as well. Another option instead of simply converting to cash for everything, bitcoins can be spent when making purchases. If the places you would consider spending your coins at don't currently accept bitcoin, each reminder the merchant receives about bitcoin will help make the day where they do accept bitcoins come sooner. Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: sron on November 07, 2012, 03:55:43 AM How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash in the mail? There's a reason why cash-in-the-mail is well used ... privacy for the sender remains intact. So if you are buying bitcoins with cash-in-the-mail, your transaction remains quite private. But if you are cashing out your coins, cash-in-the-mail to you does not necessarily protect your privacy from the sender knowing who you are. The challenge in trying to transfer a physical item without the sender knowing the recipient is something seen quite often in spy movies. The same techniques applies though for truly anonymous cash transfers, including the tactic of employing a dead drop: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_drop There are secure communications methods (e.g., GibberBot + Orbot on an Android mobile) that can let two counterparties conduct a trade without ever needing to directly interact. Certainly though, there could be restrictions against transferring cash in this manner in many jurisdictions -- particularly with larger amounts of cash. Now if in instead you simply meant how can you trade without showing an ID, there are many methods. Bitcoins Direct now takes cash deposit at several banks. BitMe.com accepts cash deposits at Chase. Individual traders on LocalBitcoins.com can be found. And for cashing out, LocalBitcoins.com works for that as well. Another option instead of simply converting to cash for everything, bitcoins can be spent when making purchases. If the places you would consider spending your coins at don't currently accept bitcoin, each reminder the merchant receives about bitcoin will help make the day where they do accept bitcoins come sooner. Nice reply, informative. Hmm... There should be a more convenient solution for this. Perhaps as localbitcoins.com grows it will become easier and easier. Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: Fjordbit on November 07, 2012, 05:50:22 AM It's up to everyone to improve localbitcoins.com. If you think you might want to buy bitcoins, then you should list yourself.
Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: BTCHybrid on November 07, 2012, 04:03:27 PM Yes I think local bitcoins is the best way to stay anonymous.
Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: sron on November 08, 2012, 06:20:01 AM What about bank transfers?
Do banks in general accept that you send money from their office without asking for ID? Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: Rudd-O on November 08, 2012, 06:33:29 AM Cash? LocalBitcoins. Not anonymous.
Cash equivalents that you can use online? Bitcoin-OTC. Anonymous. Pick one or the other :-) Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: SurReality89 on November 08, 2012, 08:35:45 AM Cash? LocalBitcoins. Not anonymous. Cash equivalents that you can use online? Bitcoin-OTC. Anonymous. Pick one or the other :-) hmm i had the idea that localbitcoins was anonymous, i mean they only will meet you and take/give cash. if its not anonymous why don't they accept electronic payments? Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: bitcats on November 08, 2012, 09:18:13 AM Cash equivalents that you can use online? Any examples, suggestions?Pick one or the other :-) Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: Rudd-O on November 08, 2012, 09:30:05 AM Cash? LocalBitcoins. Not anonymous. Cash equivalents that you can use online? Bitcoin-OTC. Anonymous. Pick one or the other :-) hmm i had the idea that localbitcoins was anonymous, i mean they only will meet you and take/give cash. if its not anonymous why don't they accept electronic payments? According to my definition of anonymous, showing your face to another person is the opposite of anonymity. Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: Proxiebuier on November 08, 2012, 03:22:16 PM Meet with eachother in person, Both wearing Guy Fawkes masks.
Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: templeofboom on November 08, 2012, 05:03:15 PM What about CashU / UKash?
Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: Rudd-O on November 08, 2012, 08:08:14 PM Meet with eachother in person, Both wearing Guy Fawkes masks. But how would they recognize each other? ;-) Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: SurReality89 on November 09, 2012, 03:55:01 AM Cash? LocalBitcoins. Not anonymous. Cash equivalents that you can use online? Bitcoin-OTC. Anonymous. Pick one or the other :-) hmm i had the idea that localbitcoins was anonymous, i mean they only will meet you and take/give cash. if its not anonymous why don't they accept electronic payments? According to my definition of anonymous, showing your face to another person is the opposite of anonymity. well at least its off the record, right? and yea if you really wanted to be that anonymous you could wear a costume, fake mustache, wig. be creative i'm sure all they care about is the cash/btc and not what you look like its not a dating service. Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: sron on November 15, 2012, 02:27:55 PM What about anonymous debit cards/gifts cards?
I know there's been talk before on this forum about e. g. a Polish bank which issues anonymous debit cards. Anyone know a good one, if existing? Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: TimeFlies on November 15, 2012, 02:39:33 PM How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash in the mail? Excellent question mate. At the moment I am running an exchanging service for which we exchange BTC for cash or WU with a 5% return increase. Let me know if interested.SRON Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: Rising on November 15, 2012, 03:21:19 PM I don't really understand the question.
You want to exchange cash for BTC, but you don't want to mail it, and you don't want a face-to-face meeting either. So how is the exchange going to work? The only way I could imagine would be a Bitcoin vending machine, but as far as I know such a thing doesn't exist. Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: TimeFlies on November 15, 2012, 03:37:50 PM I don't really understand the question. No, i am saying i can mail you cash or send you western union overnight delivery, anywhere in the worldYou want to exchange cash for BTC, but you don't want to mail it, and you don't want a face-to-face meeting either. So how is the exchange going to work? The only way I could imagine would be a Bitcoin vending machine, but as far as I know such a thing doesn't exist. Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: Rising on November 15, 2012, 03:38:53 PM I was talking to OP, not to you.
Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: TimeFlies on November 15, 2012, 03:48:38 PM I was talking to OP, not to you. ....rude.Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: Bitexchange on November 15, 2012, 05:02:35 PM For buying Bitcoins:
We exchange Ukash or Paysafecard to Bitcoin, both can be bought at local gas stations and supermarkets etc. Check http://bitexchange.biz/ Title: Re: How can I anonymously exchange BTC for cash and vice versa without sending cash Post by: DeathAndTaxes on November 15, 2012, 05:18:32 PM Your right, spamming your scamming garbage everywhere is rude. So how about you stop? |