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Title: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: Elwar on November 07, 2012, 02:37:29 PM
Way to go America. You just elected a guy who:

Passed socialized health care forcing people to get insurance at the point of a gun.

Top financial supporters were Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo, JP Morgan Chase, and supported the bank bailout.

Increased spending while in office.

Supports the war in Afghanistan.

Supports same sex marriage

Is anti-gun rights.

Supports the NDAA (allows military to arrest US citizens without a warrant, trial or lawyer) also allows Internet censorship

Opposed Bush's tax cuts.

Supported "Cap and Tax" as a way to fight global warming.

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Please change that first line to "re-elected" if Obama wins.


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: RodeoX on November 07, 2012, 02:39:00 PM
Thank you.  :)


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: DannyHamilton on November 07, 2012, 03:03:50 PM
Way to go America. You just re-elected a guy who:
You may want to check your facts.  Some of them are wrong, some are misleading, and some aren't necessarily a bad thing.


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: koin on November 07, 2012, 03:10:15 PM
Way to go America. You just elected a guy

whose policies are setting the stage where Bitcoin will play a major role.


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: blablahblah on November 07, 2012, 03:19:53 PM
Supports same sex marriage
Is anti-gun rights.
Supported "Cap and Tax" as a way to fight global warming.

Phew! At least he's not ALL bad. :D
News flash:
The developed world thinks US are retarded about their precious gun rights.
Same sex marriage is no big deal. Many hetero marriages are a sham anyway, only done for financial reasons, and it has been that way for centuries.
Global warming is a scam. If you can't fight it, you might as well put it to good use.


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Passed socialized health care forcing people to get insurance at the point of a gun.
You seem confused. Many other threads have discussed the pros and cons of private vs social health care. Keep drinking the Aspartame Kool-Aid. Yes, your US healthcare is cheaper and more effective than all those horrible Communist systems in Europe and other parts of Africa. ;)


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: Elwar on November 07, 2012, 04:13:05 PM
Way to go America. You just re-elected a guy who:
You may want to check your facts.  Some of them are wrong, some are misleading, and some aren't necessarily a bad thing.

For Romney or Obama?


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: Lethn on November 07, 2012, 04:14:22 PM
Let me guess, you voted Republican?


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: Elwar on November 07, 2012, 04:14:45 PM
Supports same sex marriage
Is anti-gun rights.
Supported "Cap and Tax" as a way to fight global warming.

Phew! At least he's not ALL bad. :D
News flash:
The developed world thinks US are retarded about their precious gun rights.
Same sex marriage is no big deal. Many hetero marriages are a sham anyway, only done for financial reasons, and it has been that way for centuries.
Global warming is a scam. If you can't fight it, you might as well put it to good use.


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Passed socialized health care forcing people to get insurance at the point of a gun.
You seem confused. Many other threads have discussed the pros and cons of private vs social health care. Keep drinking the Aspartame Kool-Aid. Yes, your US healthcare is cheaper and more effective than all those horrible Communist systems in Europe and other parts of Africa. ;)

So you are saying that there is a place where all of the US liberals could go to obtain their utopias instead of transforming this country? (not that there is much left to transform, our Constitution is TP).


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: Elwar on November 07, 2012, 04:15:04 PM
Let me guess, you voted Republican?

I did.

I wrote in Ron Paul.


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: Lethn on November 07, 2012, 04:47:39 PM
..... You voted Ron Paul and you think same-sex marriage is a bad thing? The constitution merely defines marriage as between a man and a woman it doesn't make it illegal for the same sex to marry.


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: myrkul on November 07, 2012, 04:49:40 PM
..... You voted Ron Paul and you think same-sex marriage is a bad thing? The constitution merely defines marriage as between a man and a woman it doesn't make it illegal for the same sex to marry.

You're a brit, and presumably not studying for the citizenship test, so I'll forgive this. ;) It actually doesn't even say that.


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: DannyHamilton on November 07, 2012, 04:49:54 PM
. . . The constitution merely defines marriage as between a man and a woman. . .
It does???

Can you please point out to me the Article, and Section where the Constitution makes any mention at all of marriage?


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: bb113 on November 07, 2012, 04:51:29 PM
Yea, why is same sex marriage in there? It doesn't fit with the rest. That is more the incoherent republican platform.


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: DannyHamilton on November 07, 2012, 04:52:08 PM
. . .some aren't necessarily a bad thing.
For Romney or Obama?
I don't understand the question.  Are you asking who I voted for, or are you asking if some items on the list aren't necessarily a bad thing for one of the candidates.


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: Elwar on November 07, 2012, 05:09:35 PM
..... You voted Ron Paul and you think same-sex marriage is a bad thing? The constitution merely defines marriage as between a man and a woman it doesn't make it illegal for the same sex to marry.

Nah, I just threw that in there describing Mitt Romney's stances to piss off all of those Republicans who voted for him.

(many Republicans do not know that he passed same sex marriage when he was governor by executive fiat)


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: Elwar on November 07, 2012, 05:12:30 PM
. . .some aren't necessarily a bad thing.
For Romney or Obama?
I don't understand the question.  Are you asking who I voted for, or are you asking if some items on the list aren't necessarily a bad thing for one of the candidates.

The part about "Some of them are wrong, some are misleading"

All issues listed are true for both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama. Which are wrong or misleading?


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: RodeoX on November 07, 2012, 05:54:54 PM
I have one Elwar. While Obama is to the left of the NRA, he has not moved to limit gun rights. During the debates he was asked about gun policy and answered by saying that he is for enforcement of existing law and not interested in more laws. I think that is the same stance as the NRA.


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: segabtc on November 07, 2012, 06:23:41 PM
The wall street bail out, that was from GWB, Oct/ Nov before the election even occured, so you are putting wall street bailout on obama, please check your facts! As far as the gun control, please show proof that obama has done ANYTHING to limit guns in this country! To me gun control is gripping the gun FIRMLY with both hands!


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: myrkul on November 07, 2012, 06:30:06 PM
The wall street bail out, that was from GWB, Oct/ Nov before the election even occured, so you are putting wall street bailout on obama, please check your facts! As far as the gun control, please show proof that obama has done ANYTHING to limit guns in this country! To me gun control is gripping the gun FIRMLY with both hands!

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Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: Elwar on November 07, 2012, 07:17:11 PM
I have one Elwar. While Obama is to the left of the NRA, he has not moved to limit gun rights. During the debates he was asked about gun policy and answered by saying that he is for enforcement of existing law and not interested in more laws. I think that is the same stance as the NRA.

The NRA is a club for hunters.

The Gun Owners of America actually work to protect our 2nd Amendment right to bear arms.

GOA rated Mitt Romney with a D-
GOA rated Barack Obama with an F


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: myrkul on November 07, 2012, 07:21:09 PM
I have one Elwar. While Obama is to the left of the NRA, he has not moved to limit gun rights. During the debates he was asked about gun policy and answered by saying that he is for enforcement of existing law and not interested in more laws. I think that is the same stance as the NRA.

The NRA is a club for hunters.

The Gun Owners of America actually work to protect our 2nd Amendment right to bear arms.

GOA rated Mitt Romney with a D-
GOA rated Barack Obama with an F

The JPFO (http://jpfo.org/) work pretty hard, too. And they have good reason.


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: firefop on November 08, 2012, 12:00:07 AM
So you are saying that there is a place where all of the US liberals could go to obtain their utopias instead of transforming this country? (not that there is much left to transform, our Constitution is TP).

I vote we ship them to cuba.

 8)


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: TheButterZone on November 08, 2012, 01:02:41 AM
I have one Elwar. While Obama is to the left of the NRA, he has not moved to limit gun rights. During the debates he was asked about gun policy and answered by saying that he is for enforcement of existing law and not interested in more laws. I think that is the same stance as the NRA.

Brilliant doublespeak. No more laws per se, just administrative policy changes to infringe the right to self-defense.


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: ShireSilver on November 08, 2012, 04:56:46 PM
The NRA is a club for hunters.

The Gun Owners of America actually work to protect our 2nd Amendment right to bear arms.

GOA rated Mitt Romney with a D-
GOA rated Barack Obama with an F

The JPFO (http://jpfo.org/) work pretty hard, too. And they have good reason.

I like Second Amendment Sisters (http://www.2asisters.org/) personally. I'm IRL friends with a few of the upper level folks.


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: myrkul on November 08, 2012, 05:02:41 PM
The NRA is a club for hunters.

The Gun Owners of America actually work to protect our 2nd Amendment right to bear arms.

GOA rated Mitt Romney with a D-
GOA rated Barack Obama with an F

The JPFO (http://jpfo.org/) work pretty hard, too. And they have good reason.

I like Second Amendment Sisters (http://www.2asisters.org/) personally. I'm IRL friends with a few of the upper level folks.

Funny how all these historically oppressed groups like guns, and the historical oppressors don't...


Title: Re: Way to go America...look at what you just did to us!
Post by: Agent Provocateur on November 09, 2012, 11:23:23 PM
Yea, why is same sex marriage in there? It doesn't fit with the rest. That is more the incoherent republican platform.

it's in here cuz these backdoor lovers could abuse the rep's right to arm themselves. deeeep arm in vitro fertilization
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