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Economy => Trading Discussion => Topic started by: viking02 on October 29, 2015, 05:44:19 AM



Title: Selling Rate of BTC on Circle Higher Than Coinbase?
Post by: viking02 on October 29, 2015, 05:44:19 AM
Why does it show btc value of circle is 313 usd at the moment yet on coinbase its 307?  I checked google and at the moment 1 btc is 307 usd.  So one makes more money selling circle btc as oppose to coinbase?


Title: Re: Selling Rate of BTC on Circle Higher Than Coinbase?
Post by: ANdr0id on October 29, 2015, 05:58:11 AM
Why does it show btc value of circle is 313 usd at the moment yet on coinbase its 307?  I checked google and at the moment 1 btc is 307 usd.  So one makes more money selling circle btc as oppose to coinbase?
I think at circle they set their prices just like any other exchange.


Title: Re: Selling Rate of BTC on Circle Higher Than Coinbase?
Post by: desticy on October 29, 2015, 06:53:04 AM
the price currently is $304-307 on any exchanges, even only $298 on btc-e,  so $313 is impractical

I haven't used circle, but according to my experience, better price is usually meaned it has a higher fee


Title: Re: Selling Rate of BTC on Circle Higher Than Coinbase?
Post by: Amph on October 29, 2015, 08:07:54 AM
it's called arbitrage and for circle, the trnsaction are faster, you get the money without much hassle, this explain the higher price

this is true for localbiotcoin too


Title: Re: Selling Rate of BTC on Circle Higher Than Coinbase?
Post by: Mickeyb on October 29, 2015, 09:37:10 AM
Why does it show btc value of circle is 313 usd at the moment yet on coinbase its 307?  I checked google and at the moment 1 btc is 307 usd.  So one makes more money selling circle btc as oppose to coinbase?

Every exchange has its own price that depends on the supply and demand of that exchange. They match other users asks and buys. That's why you will see difference between that exchanges. So historically btc-e has the lowest price while Chinese exchanges have among the highest prices.


Title: Re: Selling Rate of BTC on Circle Higher Than Coinbase?
Post by: maokoto on October 29, 2015, 11:09:57 PM
Those discrepancies mean money if you are able to move fast. Some people earn money by buying in some exchange (the lowest price one) and selling in another (the higher priced one). Although it is getting harder every day as I have seen here.


Title: Re: Selling Rate of BTC on Circle Higher Than Coinbase?
Post by: bitmarket.net on October 30, 2015, 10:51:13 AM
These discrepancies between exhanges are not that uncommon.
Especially if you compare the prices of bitcoins trading in different currencies, e.g. USD and EUR or SGD.

Most often that not, if you factor in the cost of the international transfer and the exchange fees, the actual profit is close to zero or negligebile, but sometimes there is an opportunity to make some money almost risk-free.

These discrepancies arise because there are number of inefficiencies built in the bitcoin trading, such as the fees and time it takes to transfer the fiat money, as well as different structure of demand and supply - some exchanges have more sellers, some have more buyers.


Title: Re: Selling Rate of BTC on Circle Higher Than Coinbase?
Post by: BTCBinary on October 30, 2015, 10:03:25 PM
That's a good margin to do some good arbitrage trading. If you have the money in position you should take the chance!


Title: Re: Selling Rate of BTC on Circle Higher Than Coinbase?
Post by: HeroCat on October 31, 2015, 02:09:46 PM
This is excellent profit opportunity  ;) Just buy BTC at lowest price in one exchange, and sale it in another at higher price  ;D


Title: Re: Selling Rate of BTC on Circle Higher Than Coinbase?
Post by: odolvlobo on October 31, 2015, 06:49:19 PM
It isn't a big difference, but it is notable because Circle makes money from the spread, while Coinbase makes money from a 1% fee. So, it would be more logical for Circle's price to be lower than Coinbase's price.

Things to note:
  • Circle is not an exchange, and if you buy from Coinbase, you are buying from Coinbase and not on their exchange.
  • Because of Coinbase's 1% fee, you can only make money from arbitrage if Coinbase's price is at least 1% lower than what Circle will pay, though Coinbase's exchange has lower fees and a different price.
  • Circle limits you to $3000 per week (or something like that), so if you can make a 1% profit on arbitrage, that's only $30.


Title: Re: Selling Rate of BTC on Circle Higher Than Coinbase?
Post by: viking02 on May 07, 2016, 06:13:46 AM
I like to add on to this.  Someone in another forum mentioned he sold bitcoin through circle/coinbase many times.  He had noticed that with coinbase you always have to pay 1 percent fee whether buy or sell bitcoin.


He said with circle... they actually give him 1.5 percent every time he sells bitcoin.  He says this happens every single time.  If thats the case, isn't that arbitrage?  Example if you buy bitcoin through coinbase... then sell it through circle assuming price stays the same?


If u were able to buy bitcoin for free no charge at all... then sell bitcoin through circle... aren't you going to make 1.5 percent each time almost then assuming price stays the same?  But again... price can't really stay the same right?  Because no one could receive bitcoin and then sell it so fast like within same time?


Title: Re: Selling Rate of BTC on Circle Higher Than Coinbase?
Post by: bitmarket.net on May 10, 2016, 09:35:52 AM
There are many abitrage opportunities between bitcoin exchanges.
Some may last only a short period of time, other may be for a relatively low volume, so few may bother to exploit them, but if you keep looking, you will find the profitable opportunities.

The key is to have enough capital available, so you don't have to wait for transferring your crypto and fiats.



Title: Re: Selling Rate of BTC on Circle Higher Than Coinbase?
Post by: bitmarket.net on May 10, 2016, 09:39:14 AM

He said with circle... they actually give him 1.5 percent every time he sells bitcoin.  He says this happens every single time.  If thats the case, isn't that arbitrage?  Example if you buy bitcoin through coinbase... then sell it through circle assuming price stays the same?


There are some exchanges with the maker-taker fee model, meaning you pay a fee if you send a market order, but they will pay you a fee if your resting limit order gets executed.
1.5% would be a unusually high rebate, though.




Title: Re: Selling Rate of BTC on Circle Higher Than Coinbase?
Post by: viking02 on June 27, 2016, 03:55:38 AM
There are many abitrage opportunities between bitcoin exchanges.
Some may last only a short period of time, other may be for a relatively low volume, so few may bother to exploit them, but if you keep looking, you will find the profitable opportunities.

The key is to have enough capital available, so you don't have to wait for transferring your crypto and fiats.





well i can acquire btc through sites i bet on.   So how can i do this then?