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Title: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: NattyLiteCoin on October 30, 2015, 04:07:51 AM
*****EDIT*******

SEE LATEST POST: 32 CUBES (2.5GH)

Getting a little more interest than anticipated.

Rejected: 15.6667 BTC for 530 MH/Sec (6 cubes, upgraded FW, with Power supplies).

Serious offers only, mining payouts from ghash are below:

10/17/2015   183.08 LTC
10/25/2015   156.88 LTC
10/29/2015   100.31 LTC


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan $4000-4800 (equivalent in BTC/LTC)
Post by: adaseb on October 30, 2015, 04:55:52 AM
You picked the perfect time to sell pretty much.


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan $4000-4800 (equivalent in BTC/LTC)
Post by: kimosan on October 30, 2015, 05:05:20 AM
To clear things for myself.

You might be willing to sell all 6, or just 4? The price range you have is for the 6 cubes + power supplies?

Where would you be shipping from?


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan $4000-4800 (equivalent in BTC/LTC)
Post by: Plento on October 30, 2015, 05:17:57 AM
I can't believe how much these things are going for these days.  Makes me want to sell mine.


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan $4000-4800 (equivalent in BTC/LTC)
Post by: AltcoinScamfinder on October 30, 2015, 08:14:11 PM
I can't believe how much these things are going for these days.  Makes me want to sell mine.


How in the world do these even remotely make a profit in LTC at these prices? It's more than they sold for before the halving?? (not trying to bash the price, just curious if I'm just missing something)


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan $4000-4800 (equivalent in BTC/LTC)
Post by: quakefiend420 on October 30, 2015, 08:51:56 PM
I can't believe how much these things are going for these days.  Makes me want to sell mine.


How in the world do these even remotely make a profit in LTC at these prices? It's more than they sold for before the halving?? (not trying to bash the price, just curious if I'm just missing something)

EDIT: may come off as thread crapping, removed


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan $4000-4800 (equivalent in BTC/LTC)
Post by: NattyLiteCoin on October 30, 2015, 09:17:32 PM
To clear things for myself.

You might be willing to sell all 6, or just 4? The price range you have is for the 6 cubes + power supplies?

Where would you be shipping from?

I was contacted with an offer of 15.667 BTC for the PnP 6 cube configuration and I am considering it. However, if any one's interested in talking about a 2.5 GH/s addition to their operation, hit me up. I'll probably regret even putting it up for grabs.

Peace, NLC.


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan $4000-4800 (equivalent in BTC/LTC)
Post by: padrino on October 30, 2015, 11:25:37 PM
To clear things for myself.

You might be willing to sell all 6, or just 4? The price range you have is for the 6 cubes + power supplies?

Where would you be shipping from?

I was contacted with an offer of 15.667 BTC for the PnP 6 cube configuration and I am considering it. However, if any one's interested in talking about a 2.5 GH/s addition to their operation, hit me up. I'll probably regret even putting it up for grabs.

Peace, NLC.

eBay, the traditional highest priced marketplace has the selling for less, I'd take that offer


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: NattyLiteCoin on October 30, 2015, 11:56:21 PM
I understand where you're coming from, but I have declined the aforementioned offer. I think it may be foolish not to mine through the winter and the BTC halving.

Taking offers now for 2.5GH (32 Cubes).


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan $4000-4800 (equivalent in BTC/LTC)
Post by: NattyLiteCoin on October 31, 2015, 01:25:00 AM
I can't believe how much these things are going for these days.  Makes me want to sell mine.


How in the world do these even remotely make a profit in LTC at these prices? It's more than they sold for before the halving?? (not trying to bash the price, just curious if I'm just missing something)


There's not going to be a better miner you can acquire than the Titan. With expensive energy(.18-.22c/KWh) I was mining an LTC $.80 prior to the halving @ $1.50-$1.80. $3.80 is awesome, but another pump is neigh and BTC could have an "issue". If you don't want to mine, I will.

(Our) issue is that my homeboy is about to have a kid and I just had two...we want to pass off good gear to good people.


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: padrino on October 31, 2015, 02:49:33 AM
I understand where you're coming from, but I have declined the aforementioned offer. I think it may be foolish not to mine through the winter and the BTC halving.

Taking offers now for 2.5GH (32 Cubes).

I would buy them all at the general market price I am seeing but with BTC value up and you not taking that offer it tells me you are looking for something crazy high.. No issue as I can respect that and do the same when I have gear I am not overly motivated to sell..

If the economics change for you let me know...


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: kimosan on October 31, 2015, 03:58:38 AM
To clear things for myself.

You might be willing to sell all 6, or just 4? The price range you have is for the 6 cubes + power supplies?

Where would you be shipping from?

I was contacted with an offer of 15.667 BTC for the PnP 6 cube configuration and I am considering it. However, if any one's interested in talking about a 2.5 GH/s addition to their operation, hit me up. I'll probably regret even putting it up for grabs.

Peace, NLC.

I'd say take that offer as well.

I'm in the market for a set of titans and 6 would be the sweet spot with what I can run out of here but that price is pretty high.
If things fall through and you decide you would like to get rid of them for certain, send me a pm. Best of luck.


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: NattyLiteCoin on October 31, 2015, 04:49:38 AM
We may hold, just going through the facts of life at the moment. PM me if you want to mine like a boss before the before the BTC halving.


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: NattyLiteCoin on October 31, 2015, 02:22:09 PM
PMs replied to, for reference $14000 is not in the area code. Plus, mind trip and I are emotionally tied to these things.


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: thedreamer on October 31, 2015, 07:13:57 PM
So to get 530MH out of 6cubes you're running them balls to the wall overclocked, right? 325MH minimum, with ALL dies working?



Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: Yerba on October 31, 2015, 09:40:01 PM
How much do You want for all 32 cubes?


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: NattyLiteCoin on October 31, 2015, 10:47:54 PM
We clear $5k a month with expensive power.  $25k is a talking point.


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: NattyLiteCoin on October 31, 2015, 10:53:12 PM
So to get 530MH out of 6cubes you're running them balls to the wall overclocked, right? 325MH minimum, with ALL dies working?



Each of the 6 cube machines has 1 dead die, it's over clocked and has been a stallion with two Eva 1300's


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: hawkfish007 on October 31, 2015, 11:17:37 PM
We clear $5k a month with expensive power.  $25k is a talking point.

What coin are you mining if you don't mind me asking and help a fellow miner? I am barely getting 3.5 LTC/day before electricity with my 350- 370 MHz 4 cube at litecoinpool bought under 3k from eBay with all functional dies. After paying for electricity I am looking at 1.5 LTC/day  :(


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: MarkAz on November 01, 2015, 12:08:24 AM
We clear $5k a month with expensive power.  $25k is a talking point.

What coin are you mining if you don't mind me asking and help a fellow miner? I am barely getting 3.5 LTC/day before electricity with my 350- 370 MHz 4 cube at litecoinpool bought under 3k from eBay with all functional dies. After paying for electricity I am looking at 1.5 LTC/day  :(

Yeah, I'd love to know what pool that is - I mine on Nicehash and have a bit less hash than you (2.2GH/s), and I gross ~$80/day.  I'm running exclusively Terminator's, so my power cost is like 3x of yours, but even still I'm just interested in the gross numbers, so if you CLEAR $5k, then that means you're grossing $6-7k?


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: NattyLiteCoin on November 01, 2015, 01:10:57 AM
Ghash.io. 45 LTC / day.

You're correct, we net $5000 a month, but the power is prepaid.


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: MarkAz on November 01, 2015, 02:31:17 AM
Ghash.io. 45 LTC / day.

You're correct, we net $5000 a month, but the power is prepaid.

Ok, I've redirected all my machines over to there to get a comparison... I'm running 2.2Gh/s (they're reporting 2.17Gh/s) so I shouldn't be that far off from your number... I actually had 3.35 LTC sitting on there already I guess from when I was testing it out a long time ago, so either way I'm up!  :)

TBH I'll be amazed if that's the kind of return I get on there, as it's almost 2x of what I'm currently getting off of NiceHash.  I picked their LTC+DOGE pool, as their Multipool doesn't look to be performing that interestingly at least right now - this is the one you're using, correct?

Also, are you sure you don't mean you're grossing $5000?  Right now 45 LTC/day is roughly $4,750/month, and LTC is up relative to the last few weeks.

Just trying to reconcile this - I just bought another GH of scrypt last week (hopefully will get it this coming week), but if I can get that kind of return on GHash, then I'll be looking to expand even further.  Everything I have is Terminators, but it sure would be nice to add a couple Titans to the mix.


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: hawkfish007 on November 01, 2015, 02:44:42 AM
Ghash.io. 45 LTC / day.

You're correct, we net $5000 a month, but the power is prepaid.

Ok, I've redirected all my machines over to there to get a comparison... I'm running 2.2Gh/s (they're reporting 2.17Gh/s) so I shouldn't be that far off from your number... I actually had 3.35 LTC sitting on there already I guess from when I was testing it out a long time ago, so either way I'm up!  :)

TBH I'll be amazed if that's the kind of return I get on there, as it's almost 2x of what I'm currently getting off of NiceHash.  I picked their LTC+DOGE pool, as their Multipool doesn't look to be performing that interestingly at least right now - this is the one you're using, correct?

Also, are you sure you don't mean you're grossing $5000?  Right now 45 LTC/day is roughly $4,750/month, and LTC is up relative to the last few weeks.

Just trying to reconcile this - I just bought another GH of scrypt last week (hopefully will get it this coming week), but if I can get that kind of return on GHash, then I'll be looking to expand even further.  Everything I have is Terminators, but it sure would be nice to add a couple Titans to the mix.


I would like to know what kind of return you get. I initially pointed my Titan to ghash but return was similar or less than litecoinpool so I am back to litecoinpool.


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: thedreamer on November 01, 2015, 04:33:48 AM

I would like to know what kind of return you get. I initially pointed my Titan to ghash but return was similar or less than litecoinpool so I am back to litecoinpool.

That's what I'm wondering. Unless he's mining alts and playing the market he won't be earning more than $3K per months with 2.5GH.


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: MarkAz on November 01, 2015, 05:52:22 PM
So I mined on ghash now for about 15 hours and here's my results:

In their 7-8 minute shifts, I was consistently generating ~14000000 of ~500000000 shares, which amounts to between 2.7% and 3.0% of their total hash (listed as 'Your Score').  I typically had between 0.2% and 0.3% rejected shares, and the pool was running at ~70Gh/s (I was ~2.1GH/s of this) the whole time I was there.

As of right now (I just stopped), I have 8.8 LTC in the wallet, and 1.4 LTC waiting for confirmation, so 10.2 LTC or basically 0.68 LTC/hour.  Based on this I should have made 17 LTC/day which is almost exactly $60... So what did your Titan do during this period, and how do your specific numbers match up with mine?  I could see variance giving you a 45 LTC day once in a blue moon, but your average should be what all the calculators say, which is 26 LTC/day.

I will say this, I hate ghash - I remember why I don't use them... They're PPLNS, which is fine and their realtime data is interesting, but their payout system with cex.io is weak.  No autopay, and the pool claims 0% fees, but you get charged to transfer out of cex.io, so there's your fee.  Also, their header values are lagged and don't really reflect exactly what's happening - for instance, it says I have 1.4 LTC pending, but looking at the last block history, I'm pretty sure I have 2.1 LTC pending... I think this is probably why I ended up leaving 3 LTC back here when I first tested it out.  Either way, the return is more than 10% less than nicehash, so that's where my boxes go back to play.


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: thedreamer on November 01, 2015, 08:17:59 PM
Also don't forget ghash.io's totally BS reduced hash rate due to stale and rejected shares. THey have been known to have extemely high reject/stale rates which borders fraud...


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: MarkAz on November 02, 2015, 12:47:26 AM
Also don't forget ghash.io's totally BS reduced hash rate due to stale and rejected shares. THey have been known to have extemely high reject/stale rates which borders fraud...

My reject rate on there was pretty much on par with other sites, although the way they display stale's is kind of misleading - it's on a graph that is also showing hash rate, which kind of implies that they're subtracting one from the other, but I don't think that's the case as I had a high hour of stale and it didn't seem to effect the percentage of payout for that period.

Either way, I won't be using ghash anytime soon, NiceHash or CleverMining are my goto pools...


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: adaseb on November 02, 2015, 01:19:49 AM
We clear $5k a month with expensive power.  $25k is a talking point.

What coin are you mining if you don't mind me asking and help a fellow miner? I am barely getting 3.5 LTC/day before electricity with my 350- 370 MHz 4 cube at litecoinpool bought under 3k from eBay with all functional dies. After paying for electricity I am looking at 1.5 LTC/day  :(
Ouch! It will be like 2 years before you make back that $3K.  Why didnt you get a SHA256 ASIC instead?


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: hawkfish007 on November 02, 2015, 01:56:08 AM
We clear $5k a month with expensive power.  $25k is a talking point.

What coin are you mining if you don't mind me asking and help a fellow miner? I am barely getting 3.5 LTC/day before electricity with my 350- 370 MHz 4 cube at litecoinpool bought under 3k from eBay with all functional dies. After paying for electricity I am looking at 1.5 LTC/day  :(
Ouch! It will be like 2 years before you make back that $3K.  Why didnt you get a SHA256 ASIC instead?

You know old habit of buying BTC/LTC gear w/o thinking much, lol. I do have 3 S7s which I am planning to send off to Toomim bros soon for hosting. I am looking at the calculator and it seems no ROI even if you buy them at $1000 per Titan.


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: rammy2k2 on November 02, 2015, 11:15:41 PM
i think we should stick to the selling topic guys, altho i admit , the offtopic was intresting :P


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: NattyLiteCoin on November 02, 2015, 11:25:38 PM
i think we should stick to the selling topic guys, altho i admit , the offtopic was intresting :P

Ghash has been quite inconsistent and you'll have that with the F2POOL's and BTCLTC's out there. Over the last 36 hours we're only pulling about 1.25LTC (@ 3.5% share) an hour, which is misleading to its performance...we've had better days for sure. The only complaint of this pool is sometime they'll be down for a 1/2 day and spike in orphans which can skew long term returns.

Again, I'm just "feeling" what the community is the true value of these guys as SFARDS was a complete commercial farce.


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: MarkAz on November 03, 2015, 12:21:28 AM
i think we should stick to the selling topic guys, altho i admit , the offtopic was intresting :P

For me it was about selling, because if I could get that kind of return the money wouldn't fly out of my wallet fast enough.  Plus it would mean I was making some poor choices in my pool selection - either way, I think this info would be interesting for anyone considering the Titan.

Ghash has been quite inconsistent and you'll have that with the F2POOL's and BTCLTC's out there. Over the last 36 hours we're only pulling about 1.25LTC (@ 3.5% share) an hour, which is misleading to its performance...we've had better days for sure. The only complaint of this pool is sometime they'll be down for a 1/2 day and spike in orphans which can skew long term returns.

Again, I'm just "feeling" what the community is the true value of these guys as SFARDS was a complete commercial farce.

What you're talking about on Ghash is just variance - no magic there.  Your good days are going to be offset by the bad ones, and the average is going to be what all the mining calculators show - the trick is that with scrypt, there's always the possibility to make some crazy short term gains working with altcoins... That's why I think it's kept in the game while most of the other crypto's haven't.

As far as the value, for me it's always based on the revenue the thing can generate.   In terms of performance, the Titan is still #1 more than a year later, which is crazy in crypto-currency time.  The premium is too much for me though, as my power rates are nice and low, especially this time of year.

SFards is no factor, never sold enough, plagued with problems and low hash rate.


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: NattyLiteCoin on November 03, 2015, 12:41:24 AM
Your absolutely correct, a machine went down in the recent stats (then an orphan, then 5 hours for 3 coins), sometimes you go on a tear, some time your mining for hours until you get an LTC. The one down side to Titans, is they don't "spin like a top" necessarily, but they’re certainly the best available.

15903    2015-11-02 19:04:53    879873    25.0280    127/120    9 minutes    69.51 Gh/s    162900992/5000158047    3.26%    567440686    0.81539033
15902    2015-11-02 18:55:58    879867    25.0237    133/120    3 minutes    68.67 Gh/s    161157504/5000185311    3.22%    176034175    0.80652070
15901    2015-11-02 18:53:09    879865    25.0993    135/120    4 minutes    69.71 Gh/s    161223296/5000204345    3.22%    260587582    0.80928397
15900    2015-11-02 18:49:05    879864    25.0020    136/120    9 minutes    69.71 Gh/s    161223296/5000204345    3.22%    565869340    0.80614802
15899    2015-11-02 18:40:13    879860    25.0010    140/120    9 minutes    70.84 Gh/s    160993024/5000180572    3.22%    558851301    0.80496824

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crazy short term gains working with altcoins

We haven't had much luck mining altcoins with these machines.

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I typically had between 0.2% and 0.3% rejected shares, and the pool was running at ~70Gh/s (I was ~2.1GH/s of this) the whole time I was there.

Typically We have between 0%-.4%, I would estimate ~0.15% mean.

Anywho, back on topic. The machines are worth more than $3K shipped as a farm with ample PSU's and custom FW. I'll keep this open for another week or so and when LTC goes above $5 and stays consistent at .012-.016 BTC, we'll reassess for the new year.

Thanks to everyone for the civil discourse, it's quite nice!


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: Yerba on November 03, 2015, 10:31:03 AM
How about 20k $ ?


Title: Re: [WTS] Feeler: KNC Titan(s)
Post by: thedreamer on November 07, 2015, 06:39:17 AM
How about 20k $ ?

If I were you, I'd seriously consider that offer..